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Post by James on Dec 30, 2016 20:26:36 GMT 10
In these posts I want to comment on some of the more recent Divine Love stuff that I've recently been able to read through the Pascas Papers thanks to John Doel. I will begin with the 'message' then add my comments below it. From Nicholas: Friday, 30 December 2016 The Gabriel message from The Golden Leaf, Awareness of Divine Love Messages February 5th, 2008, Melbourne Australia, Received by Nicholas Arnold.
I am here to present this important message to clarify the relationship between Mary Magdalene and Jesus being soulmates. This is an untruth that has been perpetuated and now my role is to shine the light on the truth to give clarity on this subject. If my tone sounds quite unique it is because I have not experienced a mortal incarnation and my form is as it has always been, ever since my creation by the Father. I do exist and I do know Jesus and I have helped in the service of the mortal realms although my own incarnation is my existence as a spirit and I will not ever incarnate as in the natural course of a mortal soul's life.
It has been revealed by Jesus in his teachings that a soul is duplex and has a soul-mate and that this soulmate is the true counterpart of each other upon creation by the Father. This is correct. When Jesus' soul was created by the Father his soul was created as a unique and independent soul that did not have a duplex nature and so, his soul was not created to have an immediate counterpart. Although Jesus incarnated to commence his mortal life in the way in which all mortals do, his soul possessed within it a spirit bestowed into his soul, being the Spirit of Truth that was his counterpart and was given by the Father. The Spirit of Truth was also conferred upon Jesus to liberate this Spirit for all mankind and spirits alike to have access to the Spirit of Truth. The Spirit of Truth is more readily known as the Christ Spirit, or Christ Principle. The Spirit of Truth, the Christ Spirit is not the Divine Love of the Father and like the Holy Spirit has its distinct operations that work in accord to the Law of the Father upon which they were created for their function and purpose.
Jesus the soul and Celestial spirit can only be in one place at one time as he is finite, as all created souls are. However, the Spirit of Truth from Jesus on behalf of the Father can be in all places at all times. This is the same for the Holy Spirit and Divine Love for all souls in the mortal world and in all the Spheres can all receive the Divine Love by the workings of the Holy Spirit and also can participate with the attribute of the Spirit of Truth that activates a soul into learning about the perceptions when living with Divine Love. The Spirit of Truth also helps a soul to relate and understand the true nature of Jesus in context with the Father. An individual can receive the attribute of the Spirit of Truth however, only Jesus when on Earth was the living Christ and no mortal can become or take the place or assume the place of the living Christ for the Father only bestowed the Spirit of Truth as an attribute in the mortal soul of the beloved Jesus.
For Mary Magdalene to be the true soulmate of Jesus her soul would have the Spirit of Truth within it upon her creation from the Father. This would infer that her role was equally to teach and liberate the rebestowal of Divine Love to mankind as Jesus did. Mary did not; her soul was mortal and has its own counterpart and mortal soulmate that she is with now. Mary like all other mortal souls receives the Divine Love in the way that Jesus taught and has progressed into the Celestial Heavens through the workings of the New Birth and activity of Divine Love in her soul that she has received from the Father.
The only two soulmates that were bestowed with the same spirit in their soul were the First Parents. They did not possess the Spirit of Truth within their soul, their spirit bestowed into their soul was unique and to act in the procreation of man and to teach Truths pertaining to the Father to establish a framework for mortal experience that was Father inclusive and to nurture and to guide these beginnings of life.
When Jesus experienced his mortal life he had a natural attraction for Mary Magdalene, however this relationship did not become anything more than this and remains this way to the present day and in the Celestial Heavens. Jesus, having a mortal personality and even though he was a beloved soul of the Father, his natural personality in the due course of life was naturally attracted to other individuals in the way in which people are attracted to one another. Mary committed her life to following Jesus and loved him all the way and has never left this love behind. Mary has helped many in the Natural Spheres find the Father, however in her Celestial home she lives with her soulmate and although she visits with Jesus regularity they do not share a soul-mate union.
Thank you and this message is of great import so that the light of understanding prevails in the accord of Truth.
The spirit, GabrielI’ve decided to ask Jesus if he would please comment on this message from Nicholas. Nicholas is my brother (I changed my sir-name when I turned my back on my family when I started doing my Healing) and I’ve not seen him for about ten years now, he and I starting our spiritual path together but diverged just before I met Marion and became aware of having to do my Healing. Jesus, sorry to disturb you, but can you please help me with some of things I don’t understand in this message.
Yes James, and it’s good to speak with you again. As I’ve told you before, yet I acknowledge your courtesy, you don’t have to worry if you’re disturbing Mary or I, we are always on hand to speak with you, and if we can’t, will say so and get back to you as soon as possible. So anytime you want to speak with us, call us in your mind and you’ll feel us respond.
Thank you, and yes I will, and yes it’s been a while since we’ve spoken. First of all, I’ve gained access to some of Nicholas’ messages from spirit, some of which I see are supposedly from you, so was it you, did you spend time helping Nicholas understand such things?
No James, it was a Celestial on behalf of me. Your brother wasn’t wanting to know the truth of myself and the Healing, so I did not personally respond. It’s been that way for some time since you started revealing such truths. I will not waste my time - to put it in terms you can relate to - by making the effort, for it does require significant effort from our side to deal with such truth-denying minds, coming to people who are not intent on living true. And especially now as things are changing with people reading your work, so even less will Mary and I have anything to do with anyone who - at least - is not intent on doing their Healing. We stand by all we’ve told you in our ‘messages’ to you, so anything else that doesn’t fit with them in general is now untruth, which we don’t wish personally to participate in. Before our work with you, yes we did encourage certain individuals in their untruth with the Divine Love, including James Padgett, but that was with the explicit purpose of getting such important truths across to humanity as part of my promised Second Coming, the truths pertaining to the Divine Love, all so it would be readily available to you (and other people who wanted it) so you could take it and then come forward with what you are to reveal, and reveal by yourself, and with Mary and I.
So the ‘Jesus’ Nicholas and others like him are working with is once again one of the Celestials pretending to be you, all so they can help Nicholas or anyone else move along in their feeling-denial all under the guise of advancing their soul by having all their sins and errors transformed out of them by the Divine Love.
Yes, it has to be that way because that’s how they want it, and we, as have spirits all through the ages, helped humanity further deny itself, either willingly as in this case with the Celestials, or unwilling as with most channels that are not directly involving the Divine Love. As we’ve told you before, Mary and I didn’t come to heal humanity, nor even to provide the way to do it. We came to end the Rebellion, which we did, and reveal the truth of the Divine Love, which I did again with James Padgett. That was all. And it was then for humanity to do what it liked with us and what we said, as people did when we were on Earth, certain people nailing me to the cross. And in that light, so humanity has continued to use all I and even some of what Mary said, to further their untruth and wrongness these past two thousand years, right up to and now including my work with James Padgett. So the likes of your brother is still about advancing ones untruth in ones rebellious ways all to give the mind more control over ones feelings. And so because of that, spirits are more than willing to help because they want to help humanity, even if it seems like a bad thing to do - to help humanity become more evil. But that’s only a matter of perspective. And when you understand it’s the Mother and Father who wanted you to become evil, have helped evolve your evilness, and still are helping those people wanting to go that way, so it’s not for the likes of us spirits who might know the truth to stand in your way and say no, you can’t be like that, and for us to go against the desires of the Mother and Father - not even for Mary and I, and especially not Mary and I, for we are the example. But now things are changing in that people have your work to hold up against the untruth, and so it’s decision time in a big way: Do I continue in my wrongness; or do I at least embrace the notion of, and consider doing, my Healing, even if I can’t as yet do it and I must wait until I’m spirit? At least one can understand the significance of it and want to do it. So if you like, this is actually the true Judgement, that is spoken about in the Bible, that humanity is to be judged at the ‘End of Time’, which is now, meaning, the end of the Rebellion and Default. For although rebellion through default will continue as long as people in their wrongness continue, the high spirits that initiated it are no longer present in the spirit worlds encouraging humanity in that direction. So now it’s an individual by individual decision as people wake up to the truth of it. And so far someone like your brother is refusing to embrace such a decision and so is continuing to write such messages as the one above.
What I’d say is it’s a somewhat confused message and full of untruth.
Yes, because that’s how he is himself - it can’t be any other way. You’re not going to get a higher true spirit come and override your mind, even if the person receiving the messages were an unconscious medium, telling you the ‘real’ truths about what’s going on and what it’s all about. There are laws against that, so the truths all have to be delivered relative to the receiving person on Earth. So if they are of a lower level of truth and confused in their understanding, and if a higher not confused spirit were wishing for some reason to communicate with them, such as myself with James Padgett, then the higher spirit has to honour the laws governing such communication and make the necessary adjustments so as the receiving person can receive the message in accordance with his or her level of truth of untruth. So as with Nicholas, part of this is a Celestial being able to pretend he is myself when he feels and thinks he is writing with me, it all being in keeping with the limitations imposed on the Celestial by Nicholas, which is really, Nicholas’ mind, his beliefs and what he chooses to think about himself - the light he seems himself in. And so when you read his messages, you can see some truth in them but then there are things he said that for you are clearly untruth, and other things that are said in such a way as to annoy you, because you sense within them the untruth although it’s not clearly disclosed, but you can sense it’s there.
Yes, that is exactly how I feel so much of the time, and because of that I don’t want to read them, even though as you say, there are some good amounts of truth and information in them I agree with. So do you know this Gabriel spirit he’s writing with?
No, and he has nothing to do with me.
He did think (if I remember rightly) he thought he could speak with Gabriel the angel-
And it wasn’t Gabriel or myself that he used to speak with, I will tell you that James. It was for him more a part of his mind making such things up. He did speak with numerous spirits but most of whom were not who he thought they were. As I said, because he was not going to embrace his Healing, this much being obvious to us when we were observing you both back then, so it wasn’t necessary to try and convince him otherwise because he wasn’t open to that, he didn’t want to hear what the higher spirits would have wanted to tell him. And as not all Celestial spirits want to participate in humanity wanting to further its wrongness, so it’s very specific work for those ones who do and are okay about it, to work with such limited channels because they have to impart so much untruth. It takes a lot for a spirit to say categorically that Mary and I are not soulmates when they know we are. However if one understands it’s to benefit Nicholas and whomever might want to read his work and believe the same thing, all to help them move further along in their untruth, then such spirits are just as valuable and needed in such work as ones who will help people do their Healing and end their wrongness. And Nicholas has a band with him who are helping him move along as he wants to, all so that one day he will wake up and understand that he’s not getting where he wants to go, that he’s not as advanced or transformed as he believes he is, which is what you can see, and what has to eventually happen to everyone.
And in the meantime a huge volume of work by such ‘Divine Love’ channels is building up all to help confuse the new person to it all the more.
Yes, all as an expression of humanity’s wrongness. And there has to be a substantial amount of untruth associated with the Divine Love, now that I have revealed what I did through Mr Padgett, just as there is a substantial amount of untruth associated with everything else Mary and I have done. It’s part of the evilness, to keep to you away from the truth of ourselves, from who we really are and what we’re really about. The Lucifers rebelled directly again Mary and myself, so everything on your world is really rebelling against us. So it has to be the same with my coming to James Padgett, which I knew would happen and even helped by not including anything directly about the Healing, suggesting and even saying that all you had to do was partake of the Divine Love and all your sins and errors would dissolve away. But it was hoped that people, as you yourself did, would reach a point when they questioned that truth, when they dared to question Jesus, all because they felt they weren’t transforming anything because it was obvious their sins and errors weren’t dissolving away even though they could feel they had received some Divine Love.
Yes, well, by the looks of it, it’s going to take some people a very long time to reach that point.
Yes, because they don’t want to have to acknowledge they are going the wrong way, and particularly the longer they go deluding themselves, that they HAVE deluded themselves, they not wanting to look foolish having to admit their mistake. And yet the further they go the more foolish they will feel, all of which will help them with their Healing.
So Jesus, so far as our actually commenting on this message by Nicholas-
There’s no reason to, at least no reason for myself to. I’ll will leave that up to you James. I will only reiterate what I’ve said all along to you, that Mary and I are soulmates, we truly are, and Mary is here with me now, and for all the reasons that you were writing yesterday. And yes, we are always ‘plugged into’ your thoughts and feelings so know always every thought and feeling you have. And it’s a pleasure to us seeing and feeling how you and Marion are progressing, for we’re just as ‘plugged into’ her too. So we always know what you’re doing and where you are up to, and if there is anything we need to impart to either of you, we do, which you can sometime detect James, and that’s all just how it is, part of our relationship together and how it will always be. So unless you want to ask me anything more specific, I will leave you... no?, okay, so goodbye to you James and we’ll speak again soon; and everything with John is going perfectly, and we send you and Marion, John and Joseph - whom I will say we have had the pleasure of speaking with occasionally in person because he is intent on doing his Healing and has tried on and off through the years with it and does want to live true and know the highest truths, and Samantha whom we attend a lot in person helping her as she struggles to work through all her difficulties, our love. We love you all, Mary sends her love to you too, speak to you soon, goodbye now, Jesus.
Thank you Jesus and Mary.
Jesus, I thought that really all I’m doing is all what you and Mary want, isn’t it?, even though I thought I was doing it all for the Mother and Father.
Yes James, it’s what we all want. Another adjustment of your mind owing to your feelings becoming stronger within you.
So if I’m to lead everyone off down another false track furthering humanity’s denial in a huge way, so be it, because so far I can’t stop going along it.
Complete your Healing James, and then see what you feel about it.
My comments on Nicholas’ message: So if Jesus’ revealed that all souls are duplex, yet his isn’t, then why didn’t he make a point of telling us that in the Padgett Messages, for surely it’s a major difference between us. And if it were so, then what’s the point of our trying to use Jesus’ Spirit of Truth to help us, when within it there is nothing about having a soulmate relationship because he hasn’t experienced one. Jesus’ Spirit of Truth is to help us with every aspect of our lives that we live that Jesus lived - on a feeling and truth level. Which means, Jesus lived certain experiences that gave rise to certain feelings all of which led him to uncover certain truths within himself, this all being contained within his Spirit of Truth. And we too are to live certain experiences which give rise to the same feelings Jesus experienced, all so we, like he did, can use our feelings to uncover the same truths he did, all whilst being assisted by his Spirit of Truth to do so. And as a huge part of our life experience involves having relationships, so you would think most of Jesus’ Spirit of Truth would be concerned with relationships; and so if he didn’t have the most important relationship of all, one with a soulmate, then there’s a huge part our relationship experience we’ll not receive any help with from Jesus’ Spirit of Truth. So why would the Mother and Father create Jesus to be so different from us, particularly when Jesus himself says he’s our older brother, and not that different from us. So what really would be the point of Jesus having a Spirit of Truth if it can’t help us in all aspects of our lives, helping us win the truth from all our feelings. That wouldn’t be in keeping with it being in the spirit of truth. The message says that the Spirit of Truth “helps a soul to relate and understand the true nature of Jesus in context with the Father”, which I agree with; and so for me, has helped me understand that Jesus has a soulmate in Mary Magdalene as does the Father in the Mother. And yes, it would mean Mary has a Spirit of Truth, which is what I attribute to her, she and Jesus being soulmates. And so she is equal with Jesus in every respect; or, he is equal with her, only she didn’t ‘rise up into her true light’ like Jesus did, because that would have interfered with the Rebellion too much. By Jesus (and Mary) coming the Rebellion was interfered with enough - it was terminated!, but for Mary to stand up against the custom of the day with the man being the powerful one, and for Mary to have worked miracles and so on, too much interference would have occurred. So as it was, humanity could easy work Jesus and his miracles into its denial by spawning the Christian religions, and possibly we would have been able to also do that had Mary shown her true light, but that wasn’t to be, so it wasn’t part of our destiny, for reasons which I’m sure Mary and Jesus understand. And one that comes to mind for myself would be, that it would have caused humanity even more grief than we’ve already got, so much more pain, all of which the Mother and Father don’t want us to suffer. Perhaps that sort of double denial is for another rebellious world in the far off future? Mary, having read the rest of Nicholas’ message, I felt it only fair that you should be able to comment on it too.
Hello James, and yes I would like to, and it’s a pleasure once again in being able to speak with you. It’s been some time, and as Jesus said to you, we’re more than happy how things are unfolding, all perfect of course as one would expect.
Hello Mary, and yes I can’t tell you both how nice it is to ‘feel your vibration’, your light, and feel you reassuring me.
We understand James, it’s a lot for you to have taken on, and having to stand firm in against such other writings by spirits such as this from your brother, however it’s what you are to do in your life and it’s only your mind that finds it difficult whereas your feelings are very firm and solid in what you believe and know to be true. And so here I am again to say that Jesus is my soulmate, that I not with any other person or spirit, and I think you can feel from my light and all I’ve said to you over the years, that I am Jesus’ equal in all that we do and say.
Yes Mary, I have no doubt about that, and it all feels so right when you’re speaking with me.
Yes, as you can feel our light and our Spirits of Truth are more intensely with you, so if you were incorrect in what you were thinking and believing, then you’d feel that as you have done previously, questioning us about it and finding resolution within yourself. Anyway James, it’s still good that you are questioning and investigating such things as what your brother and other ‘Divine Love’ channels have written, wanting to know why there are such discrepancies and how it’s all come about. And the more you question, the more Jesus and I can come forward, as it is with all the Celestials; and if you don’t question, then you’ll remain as you are with the Celestials complying with your limited intentions. We spirits are not here to drive your spiritual growth, we don’t want to do that, we only want to attend to our side of things, and even though many people would like to be driven, taken over and told what to do, all because of how they were parented, still it’s not what we do. You have to want to uncover the truth yourself through your own feelings and with your mind question when your feelings are alerting you to something not being right. And if your desire to be true is earnest, then your feelings will honour your wishes and they will make you feel something is not right. And it may only be a slight or subtle feeling to begin with, it might seem to be dancing around on the periphery of your inner self somewhere, but if you acknowledge such feelings, focusing on them and expressing them to see what truth they hold for you, then you will see and will be guided, just as you have been James, all the way. And because your brother doesn’t want to be guided by his feelings James, so he is using his mind and the spirit complying with his wishes, to seal himself further into his isolation and untruth. And as there is nothing you do about that, it being what he wants, so there is nothing for you to do.
I understand that Mary, there is nothing, nothing I can do for anyone, that much I’ve been realising.
Nothing you can do, and Jesus and I are certainly not going to interfere, so as he doesn’t want to reach out to me in the light of my being possibly Jesus’ soulmate, as he doesn’t want to go down that track, so he won’t, and will say what he does about us. And one day he will have to address his fear of women, and so his fear of myself, because really he dreads your mother stepping in, who he is projecting onto myself, and taking over as she always did, thereby ruining that which he was enjoying. So by adhering to his mind he believes he can keep the little power he feels he has over his mother, so really his mother is standing in the way of his relationship with myself. He felt he had power over your father, so he has no problems relating to Jesus, but not so with me. And this would all come to light were he to do his Healing; but in the meantime he will limit his soul growth; and that’s what you have to accept, and if you don’t and have bad feelings about that, then you know what to do with them.
Yes Mary, thank you.
And before I go, I too want to say that things are in the process of change, both for yourself and Marion, which you understand, and for humanity, although most of those changes it will resist and fight against. However such changes are inevitable, some of which some people can see, even though they don’t like what they see, but it’s time humanity starts to deal with its evilness, it can’t keep going on getting worse and worse because the results would be too dire and are unnecessary. So time is now coming whereby the introduction of the truth about the Healing will need to take place, and that as it is, will be a good thing. And as that is all I will say, I will go now. I will also speak to you soon James, as we can see there will be more you will want to speak to us about soon. So until then, we love you and Marion both very much, she is doing very well, and all her problems and difficulties will soon come to an end, as will yours. Goodbye now James - Mary Magdalene, Jesus’ beloved soulmate and equal.
Thank You Mary, goodbye.
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Post by samantha9 on Dec 31, 2016 19:50:49 GMT 10
Hi James, What I felt from your brothers message was a feeling of not wanting to accept that a woman is equal to a man, a complete denial of the woman in his denial of Mary being the true soulmate of Jesus. I suppose that would also mean he believes God to be his Father only, denying the our Mother half of God and it struck me that this all comes from the fears of his own Mother and wanting her to be as far away from him as possible, not interfering and so this is projected onto all women and his not wanting to do his healing with his relationships with women and how he feels about them, terrified.
I feel that for Mary to shine her true light in her day would have been to much of an interference for that time and breaking to many laws in that interference, people just weren't ready for her then, forcing people of the time to accept her which was way beyond what their minds could handle. I feel Mary went along with the denial of woman and let people evolve without any force in their ways of thinking, without making people accept her or any woman, people have to come to their own healing about these things and let it evolve naturally through the feelings of others, forcing them to accept her would just be more mind influence and that is not what Mary and Jesus want to do. God doesn't force us to do anything so why would they, that would be breaking the laws of God. Mary never forces me to accept what she is telling me, she lets me reveal the truth to myself through my feelings, it comes naturally as forcing me would be only intellectual, all in my mind and not truly understood as it is when felt with my soul.
I love what has been written here and it helps me so much to understand more, I wish I could be more questioning of it all but I never felt I could ask questions of my parents so I project that onto everything but I am beginning to open up to ask more as the fear in me is felt about being wrong and getting told off for asking by Dad.
My deepest love to Mary and Jesus and to Marion and Yourself James. I really cried when I read this, as I felt so much of my own suppression and allowed it to come up. So much denial that had been forced upon me as a female and a child and its still there, the fear of speaking up, questioning, expressing myself, your brothers message brought up all that pain in me, the denial of woman, not being seen, accepted as equal, non existent really in what he had wrote. Very painful but it helped me feel so much more and made me feel like a child so I knew I was in those childhood emotions of being denied as he is denying all women in God, in Mary, the feminine in all life is being annihilated with what he has written and it is painful for me but so felt.
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Post by samantha9 on Dec 31, 2016 20:03:39 GMT 10
Yes, Annihilation of myself is what I have truly felt in his writing. I am a worthless female not worthy of being accepted or anywhere near equal to men, to Dad. Just do what you are told and try not to be seen or heard and then as I got older it was more that all I had to do was just look pretty and maybe I will be accepted. What your brother has written is bringing up so much anger in me, he is just focusing on "The Father" on "Jesus" on himself and all men as being in control, just like Dad, it was him and my brothers, Yuk, oh my god I hate it all so much. You brother doesn't want to recognize females at all, there is a whole half of life that he is missing out on and doesn't even realise its importance. I want to scream at him, rant at him, "wake up". Wake up Dad, I am here, I exist. Your brother is my Dad and his denial of me. I will be annihilated if I am not seen, I will not survive if I am not equal and all I do in my life is to claw my way through to be seen and to be equal, its a useless and futile struggle and I cant go on, I am exhausted, the world will never accept me because Dad didn't. Your brother doesn't accept women, they are useless and interfering, pointless beings that should be controlled by men.
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Post by James on Jan 1, 2017 19:48:40 GMT 10
You know Sam how it is, some things instantly you know are true about yourself, then other things it takes years to gradually work your way to really really really really knowing, and when the time comes, the light goes on and you know and nothing will ever change that truth; well yesterday the light FINALLY went on for me about mum and dad and how selfish they were/are. Selfish. That’s it, the truth of them! And that’s what I grew up on, and have become - YUK! - but I can see it’s really by default and because I don’t know any other way to be; then I also know, because I can also now feel the truth of it, particularly when comparing myself to them, that I’m not selfish at heart like I feel they are.
And then you posted what you did, and that helped me see and feel it even more this morning, and I can see it in Nicholas as I agree with all you said about him. And I can see it in all the misogynist religions because that’s how I now see them, all hating women. And because of what you said, I could even feel it more within myself, how I do too hate women, and how I hate being that way. I do and I don’t hate women, like all the things, but deep down I can see it in dad and I’ve got that too.
And then whilst out shopping today I was speaking with the Father, I find I still mostly go to the Father in my mind, then suddenly the Mother starts speaking and it’s: Oh, yes, Mother, I’d almost forgotten about You. I find it very difficult to think in terms of: I will focus on just speaking with and praying to the Mother, and see what that feels like. All because as I understand I too am scared of Her, as I project mum onto Her and my hatred of mum, of women, all through the man’s line of women being such a pain in the arse, so controlling, always wanting more money and everything to be their way just how they want it and so on, all the shit dad went on about.
And in reading through the Divine Love channels I’m going to comment on, I can see it in all of them just as you’ve pointed out. It’s so much safer by sticking to the masculine and Father and Jesus, and it’s too much having to accommodate the Mother and Mary M, because who is she anyway to take anything away from our beloved mate Jesus.
And I feel for you Sam and all you’re going through about it, and I value all you wrote. Marion has had a zillion bad feelings to work through concerning her looks, her being a woman, how she felt she was treated being a girl. And only recently has she stopped feeling bad about how she looks, she’s enjoying how she is without looking in the mirror, she doesn’t care what anyone thinks, and she’s thrilled to have stopped feeling the awful feeling of she’s not looking good enough, as if there is always that angry judge (her parents) ready to come down hard on her telling her she looks ugly and to do something about herself.
The whole ‘looks’ thing is horrendous, just as you said, just look pretty and everything is okay if you’re lucky. And when you’ve grow up in it and it’s right through you being part of your fabric, how do you ever manage to free yourself from it?
And also from what you’ve said I can feel also more in me the sense of power I gain from being a man and shitting all over women. All my sexual fantasy’s and really just wanting to be involved with women for sex, it’s all the same thing, all my desperate need to have control and power over the ones I think have it over me. And all because the women in my early life did have it over me. And I am enjoying, the more I get used to the feelings, feeling how much I hate them - I HATE THEM ALL! I am even allowing myself to relish these feelings, and not even fearing that if I dare have them, let alone voice them, the brick will be throw in my face.
And again reading your post, the further I go the more I can see that really it’s the suppression of the feminine, of the woman, of the spiritual and feelings and truth that she is that keeps the whole rotten Rebellion in place. You can see how it’s put women down so they can never have their say about their feelings and uncover the truth they feel, because if they did, the whole thing would fall apart. If there is going to ever be a revolution if will be women starting to fully honour and express their bad feelings, and then men will either have to support them and follow suit or fall of the edge of the world.
Yes, mum gave my bother a certain power over her. And I can see that really he hates her. And the women he has chosen to be with, including mum, are all ones that are controlling but also allow him to be the great man. And I wonder what he will bring up if and whenever he crosses the line and starts his Healing.
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Post by James on Jan 2, 2017 21:32:47 GMT 10
(me: I’m going to add my bits within the message in blue. Where I haven’t responded or where Mary or Jesus haven’t, it’s mostly because I agree with what Nicholas, James Reid or Judas has said, or it’s just too much that I disagree with or don’t understand to even bother.)
The true soulmate of Jesus. The Golden Leaf Melbourne Australia, Received by Nicholas Arnold. February 11th, 2008
I am here to present a message to shed light on Jesus' relationship with the Father. The perfect soulmate for Jesus is the Father. (me: It’s not a soulmate relationship. Sure it’s a perfect relationship but is has nothing to with soulmates. The Father isn’t Jesus’ soulmate and I can’t imagine Jesus saying He is. Jesus: No, James, I wouldn’t say such a thing because it’s not true. A soulmate relationship is with someone who is of the same soul as you are, your ‘other half’, so it can’t be with a soul that is not your soul, and my soul is not the Father’s Soul. And it’s a very bad way to illustrate a certain point, it should be said in another way and without the involvement of soulmate.) The Father created the soul Jesus, without a soulmate which differs to the way the Father creates all souls that are to become mortal once their incarnation on Earth has transpired - this teaching is entirely consistent with the work that was conveyed through James Padgett. (me: Did Jesus say in the PM that he didn’t have a soulmate, whereas we all do? I can’t remember exactly however I’m sure I would have remembered such an important detail as that. And just because Jesus didn’t say he had a soulmate doesn’t mean he doesn’t have one, he just didn’t say he did or did not.) All mortal souls are created in the image and potential to be at-one with their soulmate in Divine Love. What was not revealed in the work with James Padgett is that it is in the Father that all of Jesus' soulful needs are met. (me: And again, how can the Father provide all Jesus’ soulmate needs when as Jesus said, it’s only your other half from your own soul that can provide all your soulmate needs. It doesn’t make any sense what Nicholas is saying. And why would such spirits say such things - god only knows, that too I don’t really understand only that it’s in keeping with Nicholas wanting to believe certain things, and the spirits are complying with the wishes and limitations of his mind.)
Jesus is so close to the Father and in the Father's Love the soul of Jesus abides and this is very evident when one has the pleasure of meeting with him.
Jesus has his own residence well in the Sphere that is well into the Celestial Heavens, and it is from here that he moves throughout the Spheres to teach and introduce the Divine Love of the Father. (Jesus: This also James is not quite right. I don’t move through Nebadon teaching and introducing the Divine Love. It’s mostly the Avonal pairs that reveal and then make available the Divine Love to each of the individual worlds. As you know, I’ve only done it with Urantia. And neither Mary nor I interfere with that. We do on occasion help individuals understand more about the Mother and Father, for all we are is all about carrying the light of such truth, however it’s all on a person to person basis when needed - we don’t hold classes or any sort of formal lecture series. And each of the parts we reveal and teach is always adding to what has gone before, but compared to the bulk of teaching that goes on by the real teachers in spirit and other mortal spirits to mortal spirits, it’s very little.) Jesus is not the Father although in his soul he is so at-one with the Father and in the Father's Soul and Love, Jesus receives all that is necessary for his spirit life and purpose and progression. Jesus knows more than any other living soul about the Divine Love and Its workings in the soul and he is still receiving this Love and learning about the Father that he and we all love and share in. There is an element within Jesus' soul that responds so comprehensively to the Father and this commitment fulfils his soul and he stands alone as a mortal soul in this Truth and way. Once again, it becomes very clear when one works along side him that there stands no other and to no other mortal soul is he committed to in the way of a soulmate and like other mortals are. (me: Except Mary.)
It has been previously mentioned in this work of awareness of Divine Love, that he is entirely approachable and he is, and one can feel the presence of the Father Eternal with him and this presence is always very well received by those who have commenced their New Birth with the Inflowings of Divine Love. (Jesus: James you might like to mention here, the so-called New Birth really only begins when people start doing their Healing as you’ve revealed and we’ve spoken about. Technically it does begin upon receipt of the Divine Love, because within the Love is the potential of all that the New Birth will bring, as you will be as a new person as if you’ve even had a ‘new birth’ once you are fully healed and of Celestial truth, however in practice, it’s not until you start your Healing does the inner transformation begin.) We all know that he knows more than we know and he holds no secrets when teaching. If a spirit asks a question, he will try to provide the most appropriate answer so that the inquiring soul can learn more about their own personalised relationship with the Father. Jesus knows that the more Divine Love is known and related matters concerning is known to others, then the Father is more widely known and this makes him happy. (Jesus: Yes it does make Mary and I very happy.)
Jesus in his spirit body is a glorious Celestial sight and he will never incarnate into the mortal flesh again. Those who believe such a thing possible and those who believe an individual who believes such a thing possible are in error to the teachings of Jesus, for as he taught, once a soul is confined within its spirit body, it is impossible for that soul in a spirit body to incarnate again. (Jesus: The soul is not ‘confined’ within the spirit body for the soul ‘makes’ the spirit body and keeps it ‘alive and functioning’ for as long as it needs it; however the rest of the message is true in that Mary and I will never again incarnate into flesh. We will as we’ve told you, visit Earth in the far distant future, and numerous times via the morontial temple, however humanity has to first fully heal itself for the temple to be earthed.) Important in this is love, and many people like to know that in their future they may meet up and see loved ones, who live as spirits and this happens. The personality of an individual is always retained to the soul and the spirit body reflects this personality and love.
In the Father's Soul in the Divine Love of the Father, Jesus is at-one and this Truth is known throughout all Divine Love Spheres and he continues to help souls learn and become aware of Divine Love so that each may enjoy the Father's Soul.
Thank you for this opportunity to convey this message of Love, Your friend and Celestial teacher, Elias
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Post by James on Jan 2, 2017 21:37:35 GMT 10
The DIVINE UNIVERSE: 226. Jesus introduces the next part of this work - Soulmate 8 January 2013
As I have previously stated, I along with Saleeba will guide and orchestrate proceedings on this side so that all goes well in the delivery of these spirit communications (The Divine Universe messages) that are now to be conveyed to you.
I can see that you are asking me if Saleeba is my soulmate and Saleeba is not my soulmate, though she is deeply touched by your question. (me: I don’t understand how Nicholas can be asking if Saleeba is Jesus’ soulmate when in 2008, in the message above, he declared Jesus doesn’t have a soulmate. Unless he’s just saying it to see what Jesus will say so as to elicit more from him about him not having one.) The Soul of the Father is my soulmate and Eternal companion. There is no other mortal personality that is connected into my life as being the other half or attribute of my soul. Humanity in all its entire experience is also my soulmate. (me: No, this is another statement I don’t understand, for how can humanity be a soulmate to anyone. I can sort of and at a stretch understand it speaking symbolically or whatever, but still, I don’t see the point as it’s so misleading and could give people the wrong impression - those people who want direct and sincere truth and no beating about the bush.) I serve humanity and by doing this I serve my Heavenly Father and together in this service, we teach, love and help the individual. Saleeba is with her companion here in the Celestial Heaven, though she has not written to you on this subject of her true love and Celestial companionship. I stipulate again that The Father is my soulmate though I am not equal with the Father. (me: Which just doesn’t make sense.) I continue my progression like all other individuals do in the harmony, the Immortal harmony of the Father’s Divine Love. In my forming from the First Source, I was not formed with another part to my being soul, as has been described to you in previous works on how soulmates are formed. I need to say that I am without an equal mortal or Immortal companion. It displeases me when people contrive all manner of relationships that I am supposedly to have had. I am not equal with the Soul God and for this matter no mortal or Immortal soul will ever be equal with the Soul God, for the First Source remains unequalled without ever having to justify this Eternal position to a mortal or Immortal personality. (me: Okay, so Jesus says he’s not equal with the Soul God, but also says the Soul God is his soulmate?? How can you take any of it seriously when it’s almost gobbledegook.)
When one experiences the Divine Love and through the workings of this Love progresses into the necessary rapport with the Love and Its workings, one is revealed to their soul that God is without equal, for no finite personality has the control or can ever take control of the activity that is God’s Divine Love and so, the First Source can never be controlled by or dictated to by any other finite or universal personality. The First Parents found out this universal truth the hard way. (Jesus: and by the way James, this is not me speaking to your brother for I’d never put what he’s trying to say in that way. And the same in the next paragraph, it’s all trying to have power using the mind, something I would never do.)
I have formed close relationships with individuals especially with those who work and serve along side me as we establish the universality of God, the Soul of God, of God’s Divine Love and the Spirit that convey the Love into the soul, and the awareness of all that the experience of the Immortal Love provides to the individual.
I still see my mother and father, my immediate family and my relatives as they are all living close to me in the Celestial Heaven. (Jesus: This is not true, I’ve not seen them in a long time. We have no need to speak to each other, nor do I see many of my disciples, men or women, for most of them have moved on through Nebadon moving closer to the Mother and Father. If anything, Mary and I now have far more to do with newly arrived Celestials than ones who completed their Healing shortly after our deaths on Earth. Very few of the ‘old guard’ remain serving in the lower spheres of the Celestial Heavens. They have honoured the call of their soul to move on, for you are all to ascend to Paradise, to say goodbye to Mary and I, and even though we are sad to see such loved ones go, still we are very happy because it means we have fulfilled our role doing what our Mother and Father want us to do.) They know my place and service in my universal standing. I see and work along side those who lived closely with me in my human life and all together we serve the Father by establishing the universal awareness and potential of the Immortal Love and teaching those who have accepted their life in this Immortal Love. (Jesus: As I said, it’s not a big happy family and we will always be working closer for the redemption of mankind. It’s not like that at all. Mary and I have countless highly personal relationships with all sorts of beings in Nebadon and many mortals from all the worlds, and many more coming and going all the time as they ascend through our universe. We are not only concerned with Earth. Earth was a big deal for us, but now it’s minor, we’ve given over to others resuming our more rightful place in Nebadon. And so much so, that most of the spirits in future coming from Earth into the Celestial spheres will not see Mary and I in person. Everyone will of course know of us, and will be able to observe and listen to us as there are ways for us to reach everyone, but it won’t be all face-to-face.)
I know that many people would like me to be many things and want me to be in many places and images of comfort to them, which I whole-heartedly understand. A love for me is born from the greater need of one’s soul to love and feel one being Loved personally by the same Father who Loves me. If one can love me by loving the Soul, God, and immersing oneself in prayer to the Soul God for the Divine Love, (Jesus: Also I wouldn’t keep referring to the Father as Soul God, if I used that term, or any like it, I would use it very sparingly and only to illustrate a specific point - I wouldn’t be so impersonal.) then shall the truth of my life in all its truth, liberate and love one in their faith whilst the Father Loves one in their soul. When one experiences the Love, then, shall one know not only the Immortal Love but the Immortal living Truth with regard to the purpose and meaning of my life. (Jesus: Only as one does their Healing and fully embraces Mary and myself as one - as soulmates.) In this living faith in Divine Love one will be able to know see and feel that I am living, living in the same Divine Love that one in their faith has whole heartedly accepted and experienced.
Only God has the capacity to love us all equally and personally that fulfils the heart soul and mind and, a perfect loving that fulfils the need of individuality. There are those on earth, who by them selves have accepted and embraced the Divine Love that I speak of and are living in their Immortality as I write this.
Experiencing God’s Divine Love is a simple thing to do. That is why my teaching about this Love is universal and can be understood by every living heart and soul whether one is living on earth or in the natural spirit world.
Well my friends, I have enjoyed writing with you again. Let us all continue in this good work bringing to light the awareness of the Divine Love. Jesus of the Celestial Heaven (me: So Jesus, if it’s not you, who is Nicholas speaking with? Jesus: Himself James, it’s all part of his work within his own mind with smatterings coming from some of the spirits attending him.)
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Post by James on Jan 2, 2017 21:44:50 GMT 10
SHINING TOWARD SPIRIT: Vol I, p. 156, 14 Nov 2014 – 14 Mar 2015 Zara and Nicholas 197. Love www.lulu.comAs it would happen, my surname is Love; my name is Sarah Love. I have been a spirit for 20 years now. There is much activity happening and I can see that the Master Jesus has just arrived, the brightest of them all! I am overwhelmed now, I can’t speak, just wait a minute … I am getting it together, I can continue. I can see that his mother Mary is with him, and soulmates Judas and Mary Magdalene are with him as well. In fact, all of his apostles are with him, they are entirely approachable. This is a moment as a spirit I will always remember. I would like you to utilise your soul perceptions to see this, even though this Exodus will have passed by the time you read my words. There are thousands of spirits present now. (Jesus: As I said, I don’t do anything with my apostles anymore, and Mary is my soulmate, not Judas’. It’s all fantasy James. And there is no such Exodus of Celestials visiting the mind worlds, the Celestials are free to go wherever they want in the lower worlds whenever they want, and do so all the time. It’s all a contrivance by your brother - he made it up. Nor would I suggest celebrating a ‘Divine Love’ day, or anything other sort of ‘day’. Just keep longing for the Divine Love, and longing for the truth of yourself and the Mother and Father through your feelings as you progress in your Healing. You don’t need to take care of the days, they will take care of themselves.)There is such a manifestation of Divine Love and the Spirit that is enveloping us all that conveys this Love into our souls that for my first time as a spirit, I would have to say that it feels like even the Father is manifesting a presence. I am too overwhelmed to write now, the Master approaches. [Divine Love Day, each year is on the second Sunday in December. This event may have been 14 December 2014. The Celestial Spirits exit the Celestial Heaven and visit all The DIVINE UNIVERSE: 2012 – 2013 303. The Immortal Prayer 6 February 2013 I am here, your friend Jesus and I would like to thank Saleeba for her service throughout this work; I thank all who have contributed and today our work toward the generating and creating the awareness of the Divine Love continues. This universal work is not my Third Coming to Earth. There will never be a Third Coming to Earth. I will never walk upon the Earth again in the flesh although as I am demonstrating now, I will communicate as I have done and will continue to do so with individuals whilst I am here in the spirit world. This is a universal work because the Divine Love is universal, and a personal experience of this universal Love is a transparent experience in these spirit communications. You are aware of how many happily live in their experience with the Divine Love of the Father here in the spirit Realms where living with the Divine Love is a visible fact. You are also aware of how many struggle in their experience of the Divine Love in a human life. Having lived a human life myself, and having experienced human social drama, I well understand why individuals find it hard to reconcile their life with the potential of the harmony of a life lived in faith and Divine Love. People are surrounded by human conditions and some of these conditions involve suffering, fear, aspirations, and all manner of conditions that impact the simple and beautiful task of quietly praying to the Father’s Soul for an inflowing of the Divine Love. This work is a continuation of the work I did with James E. Padgett (1914 – 1923) though it is independent. (Jesus: It’s not a continuation of the work I did with Mr. Padgett because there is no such continuation. There is only the outworking of my work with James Padgett, Nicholas and the other contemporary Divine Love channels being part of that, and to be judged accordingly. My work with James Padgett ended with James, it has then been for humanity to make of it what you will. The next, if you like, ‘instalment’ of truth, is that which concerns the Healing of yourself by looking to your feelings for their truth.) The construct of the natural and the Divine Love as a foundation to learn about the nature of Love and Spirit, in a human experience, will never be surpassed. The answer to every question asked from the leading edge of humanity can be answered and identified by the way the nature of these two Loves function (in their potential) for Love and Spirit and, to live as we do in the mortal spirit world in our harmony and acceptance with God. (Jesus: I would advise doing your Soul-Healing; for through it, all will be revealed to you by your own feelings from your own soul, and in way that you can understand - Personal Revelation.)For those who are living with the Divine Love and those who are to live with Divine Love in all cultures of the world and in all nations of the world, I give you these words to write that may provide comfort to those who need comforting and to provide faith and love to those who have passed their hour of need, and so I say: (Jesus: It’s Nicholas making it up again.)My love, fear not for I am here at heart and hand and to comfort you in your prayers for Our Heavenly Father’s Divine Love. I support you in your uncertainty and sincerity that though you may feel sad or lost, in pain or confused, or in joy and happiness, I support you and no amount of weakness or temptation that you may feel, will deter the Divine Love from Inflowing into your heart and soul. This is not a time for me to teach the Truth of the Immortal Love or to provide a parable that may enlighten you with a teaching about man and God. For this time is when my love and guidance supports you in your endeavour to feel the Divine Love of God. Though you may not see me with your eyes, the truth of your heart will never lie to you, and in this heartfelt knowing, as you are true to the Divine Love of God, you will know my presence that I am with you as you pray to the only true, one true Soul who can provide you with this Love. In this hour or every hour I am not a Lord. I have never entitled myself with such a title nor do I respect being given such a title or name. I am not a King or any other entitled item, thing, or living image. I am your friend and true companion as you endeavour to feel the blessings of Our Heavenly Father’s Divine Love embrace your soul. God is the true and reliable guardian of your soul. This will never change if you allow this guardian to love you and that you may feel this Love in your faith. Though you may have descended into passing through the valley of the human shadow where there is only fear, the humble and the righteous will never succumb to these fears for the goodness that prevails in each and every human heart can be drawn back into the harmony of light and life. (Jesus: Succumb to these fears, expressing them to uncover their truth.)At times you may be disheartened or dispirited by the way you see the way your fellow man acts toward one another that does not respect love and moral truth. (Jesus: If you feel bad, then you’ve got more bad feelings that can lead you to the truth of why your fellow man makes you feel bad.) You may see the poverty that people live in and the hatred caused by fear but I will never ask you to give up your heart, for I will never give up on you. (Jesus: I will never give up on you because really you are none of my business anyway so there’s nothing to give up on. I am only the Master of Truth in Nebadon, Mary (the Mistress of Truth) and I are ensuring the Truth is made accessible to everyone who wants it. It’s the Mother and Father who will never give up on you because you are Their business, Their Creation.) The choice for Love and harmony always exists even at the heart of a heart of darkness. I have seen the worst in men and women change from fear into harmonious love. For those of you who are strong, I will continue to sustain this strength (Jesus: Again I have nothing to do with it, it’s all between you and your Mother and Father.) because many of you who experience the Father’s Divine Love require a great resolve and strength of heart not to give up on the Truth and not to be saddened by the apparent lack of interest in the most beautiful love that you feel and know to be true. I will never prevent myself from being with you, who sincerely desire the Divine Love and, with any feeling of being afraid, alone or insecure, I with my Celestial teachers are present supporting you. There is no shadow in the Divine Love and for those who are aware of this Love in faith love and spirit we celebrate the harmony of God’s universe of Love and Spirit. I pray for the Divine Love, the Immortal Love Universal Soul God, My Father, I love and accept you with my heart. I sincerely pray for your Love that will come by The (me: Holy Spirit - Spirit is too nebulous, there are too many spirits; and it has a specific name, so why not call it by its name so we all know what you’re talking about.) Spirit and embrace my spirit body conveying your Divine Love into my soul. I humbly ask that you love me as I love you, and that you continue to love me when in those times I cannot love myself. I ask that you give me the strength to voice my faith and love to you, and that you may love me in my weakness and in my strength. I know that I am a soul beautiful to you as you are to me, and that your Divine Love will be the arrival of Truth that my soul has truly longed for. I pray that your Divine Love will be the arrival from which will announce the departure of my doubt and that such faith, love, strength will come to me that I will never doubt you again. (me: You can pray for such departures but they won’t happen until you express them out of yourself.) And I will never stop loving you, in the sunrise and the sunset of each day in my life. I recognise that you are the Source of the Divine Love and the origin of my soul. I recognise that I may have been lost to you but in truth I was never lost to you and now, I am gathering up all my love out of my lost-ness in great abundance because I am aware that your Divine Love is present for my soul and I am free to receive your Love and feel Its’ breath of spirit declare in my heart the Immortal Harmony. I am receiving your Love, I have received your Love, true Universal God, your Immortal Love. Amen These words I give will help another and never shall anything dark ever come out of the spirit world to cause separation from the human heart and soul that is praying for the universal and Eternal Father’s Divine Love and so, for this day and in the days of tomorrow, for the Divine Love come let us pray and be aware of this Immortal Love and Its potential for faith and harmony in a progressive experience. Jesus of the Celestial Heaven (me: I think Nicholas has pretensions of being another James Padgett... or even a better one?)
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Post by James on Jan 2, 2017 22:02:51 GMT 10
RICHARD MESSAGES: MESSAGES from the CELESTIAL HEAVENS: Mary of Magdalene Speaks of Her Life. 15 October 2013
Good morning dear friends. I have just been speaking with JD and he suggests that Mary of Magdalene desires to speak with me about her life on earth and her present situation. Is this so?
Yes it is so indeed. I am here, Mary who is known as Mary Magdalene. I was drawn to your group and am interested in what you are doing. I have lived in the Celestial Realms for a long time now. This is not surprising considering my close association with Jesus and all who worked around him in his time on earth. There has been much written about these times much of it with little foundation and much with a lot of imagination. At the time when we lived very little was recorded of the normal activity of the people with the main records being official religious, civil and military records. The great majority of the population was illiterate so there was little purpose in or need for the circulation of written records. The great majority of those of us who lived around and were associated with Jesus in his life were essentially uneducated other in the skills that we needed for our daily living and communication. (Mary Magdalene: No James, it’s not myself speaking with James Reid. It was another spirit standing in for me as we’ve explained to you, so James could feel happy about ‘putting me in my place’, that which was in keeping with his mind and latest beliefs when he received this message. Some of what is said is true, concerning the times and how people were, but little specifically about myself as I will point out below.)
Records that were written were recorded much later when it became apparent that some form of record was needed in order to sustain memory and to circulate the knowledge of what had been taught. Until that time all teaching was purely by word of mouth from person to person and with quite small groups.
This meant that spread was slow and a lot of variation crept into the teaching. As has transpired over the years (Mary: And still is!), the very essence of the Master’s teachings, the knowledge of Divine Love, became lost. There were many reasons for this. Perhaps the main one was that very few of those who became known as the Disciples really understood what had been taught. Some had a greater grasp than others.
This was a time when women were generally regarded as having rather less significance and importance than men and were treated in this way in society (Mary: And this is very important and the crux of all humanity’s woes). In many ways this was strange as women actually held great power and influence as our society was essentially matriarchal (Mary: That of the Jews). As is so often the case, even in today’s world, this truth became secondary to the more important business of religion, politics and business in all of which women played virtually insignificant roles.
The groups that surrounded Jesus was most unusual in that there grew to be a respect and consideration of women and their contribution to society overall (Mary: Yes and it was wonderful to be with such people at this time, it was so liberating, even though we women still had to maintain our rightful places - we couldn’t usurp the men, for it was men who were always going to ‘spread the word’, they had to always feel they were the more important ones, not us women, and all so most of the truth would be lost mind you, the men did a good job of ensuring that, but still, that was the way of it back then, and nothing has really changed. And it won’t change until women - and men - take the truths of the Healing into their lives and live it, living true to their feelings, then the truths will never be lost again, then they will become the ‘living truths’. It will be women who understand the sacredness of their feelings, for within feelings is contained truth - and that will start the spiritual revolution of mankind.). This came about because of the love that the Master manifested and communicated to the others. This attitude grew only slowly in the male members of the support group which was quite large considering the times (Mary: Yes we women quickly grasped the essence of Jesus, and I helped the other women understand the finer points - the ones sincerely interested in the Truth). Not only was it quite a large group but it was mainly women. This is not generally known or recorded. Historical records speak of twelve disciples (Mary: Because it was twelve men, however there should also have been twelve women, the soulmates of those men, but that couldn’t happen because everyone was living in rebellion against the truth. It was supposed to be a soul-group, representative of soul-groups in the Celestial heavens.) and it is never clear just how this number was arrived at. History is full of such inaccuracies that have become enshrined as fact. The twelve who are recorded are all male and this is not too surprising considering the times in which we lived. One of the main planks of the teaching of the Master was about the equality of men and women in the eyes of God. As you can imagine this was received much better by women than men who had grown with the very strong belief in their superiority in most things – probably everything actually.
Those of the group who were exposed to Jesus’ teachings who grasped the truth of his message most fully were the women (Mary: Yes, because of my influence. I could work more privately and intimately with them, as they were going to be the ones who led in looking to their feelings for their truth when the time (in spirit) would come for them to begin their Healing in earnest). That the message had to do with love in its basis was very significant to the women who had a deeper understanding of the presence and the value of love. Many of us also had the deeper feeling or understanding that He spoke of a very different type of love that actually had a transformative power (Mary: Yes, because he spoke openly and directly about the Divine Love, just as he did to Mr. Padgett. The truth of the Divine Love wasn’t kept hidden, it was out there in the open just as it is today, so it goes to show you how much work was done to cover it up and ‘lose’ it.). Women were not in position to speak to public groups as such but were totally free to speak among themselves in small and larger groups that were essentially informal but nonetheless very powerful forums of communication. We felt less constraint in our acceptance of teachings that we could feel to be true even when they were in conflict with the accepted religious and social mores of the day. These teachings allowed women to feel a sense of recognition and acceptance by a God who was loving and not a patriarchal God of control and strong arms ready to smite the sinner. (Mary: Yes and I even introduced the counterbalance of the Mother to some women who were open to embracing their Heavenly Mother - however again all this was lost.)
Jesus knew this and fostered this to a much greater degree than is ever recorded or even suggested. The very fact that he accepted me as his friend (Mary: And soulmate!) and that I was then accepted by the respectable women of our society was a remarkable demonstration of the power of his teaching and his acceptance. As a courtesan (Mary: which I wasn’t, as I’ve explained in my writing with you James. I helped look after such women; being of a true and of perfect soul there was no need for me to experience such life, one would only experience such things if one was living untrue to oneself.) I was looked down upon and judged generally and quite harshly (Mary: Because I dared to help such wayward and despicable women, especially being from a very respectable middle class merchants family). As I became accepted by the women who surrounded the Master, we related to each other as women with the acceptance and knowledge that we were really the way in which we were in our society because of the way in which our fortunes directed us (Mary: How we’d been parented, so I helped the girls to see). We had an increased role to play because of the way in which we were regarded as we were able to function in spreading the word of the teaching in a much less visible way. This was because we were considered to be of less importance. Some were aware of our real power and actually fostered this.
I did become very good friends with Mary, Jesus’ mother, and we remain so to this day (Mary: Which is true, however as Jesus explained above in Nicholas’ message, we no longer see such spirits as they have all left Nebadon). We now live close together and join together in many tasks that we undertake. We loved Jesus very dearly and were able to support each other through the very difficult times during his last days and in the time that followed. I will go so far as to say that the men in the movement would never have been able to continue to teach and spread the word as they did without the constant support of all of the women involved (Mary: Very true!). To many, the strength that we as women displayed was a great threat to the security of the men who were not at all used to dealing with women with independent ideas and minds. The threats to all of us who followed Jesus’ teachings led to a great dispersal as we moved into separate areas in order to avoid persecution. This gave a great impetus to the spread of the message we had learned from Jesus. (Mary: Yes, also true.)
Had we stayed gathered together in the one small location it is likely that the whole movement could have become introspective and lost power.
We had learned of the overall equality of all of the members of mankind. In addition to this we had learned of the Divine Love of which Jesus taught. These two great truths struck a deep chord with people who lived in oppressive regimes as they had done from time immemorial. The discovery of something which recognised the value of the ordinary man gave him a sense of a power in his future progress through life and beyond. For the first time in living memory there was teaching that allowed a small individual to feel that he was something in this wide world. This did threaten the security of the powers that be greatly so we were safest spread widely over the land. We taught as we had learned and what we recalled of what we had learned. Because of this there is a basic coherence in our teaching but also a lot of variations that were taught and which have crept in over the years. With the abbreviation of the teaching life of Jesus there was no time for the consolidation of his teaching so we were all left in what could be considered to be a green state with much to learn as we attempted to live what we had been taught.
Added to this have been the many profound changes which have been written into the teachings that became the basis for the Christian churches in their various guises. These changes carefully restricted teachings that seemed to empower the individuals in order to shift the power back to the priests. This is totally contrary to all that Jesus taught and that we strived so strongly to maintain. The knowledge and truth of Divine Love became essentially buried for a very long time until its resurfacing now.
I moved away from the lands where I was born for my safety and to continue to live in the beliefs that I had learned and to teach what I could to as many as possible. I travelled to what is now the south of France (Mary: No this wasn’t so, I moved to live with the help of my father in Alexandria in Egypt where I helped other women who wanted to know the Truth.) where I lived out the rest of my life surrounded by a dedicated group of students and followers of the teaching (Mary: I never had students of followers, for that wasn’t my way and it would not have been in keeping with the Rebellion’s imposed restrictions that I lived under. I suffered greatly under these heavy restrictions, something far greater than Jesus suffered by being nailed to the cross for only such a short time - such is the plight of women). I was very content here and did not miss the land of my birth as I felt that I had found a true and loving home among the people here. The seeds that were sown bore much fruit as the soil was fertile. People all over the world as we knew it were living in oppression with great unhappiness so the gift of something marvellous that each could have personally and without hindrance was a gift beyond measure.
In the times in which you live there is not so much of the same oppression that we suffered but there is a deep and general lack of awareness of the truth of humanity and the wonderful life that is possible on earth and that is assured in the Spirit World when the time comes to move to here.
With even the little knowledge and understanding of the Divine Love that I had on earth, I was able to live with some increased awareness of this wonderful reality. I was certainly able to live a life full of love despite all the various misfortunes that marked my path. I did have experience of Divine Love in my life on earth and was able to learn so much more on my passing into the Spirit World. I was totally open to the teaching of the Master which he was now free to give totally unhampered to all who would listen. In the light of his love I was able to progress rapidly through the spheres to the Celestial Realms where I have lived for a long time now in perfect happiness aiding anyone who is open to learn of Divine Love. This is a most rewarding way to be. (Mary: As with Jesus, as we expressed our feelings so the truth of our soul was revealed, both on Earth and in spirit, and it still is.)
There have been many who have spoken of my having been married to or the lover of Jesus when we were on earth but this was not so (Mary: True, we never married or were lovers in what most people would understand that to mean. We did however fully know and feel and respect and live our soulmate love, which was mostly a spiritual connection although we did share certain physical intimacies, however we both died virgins.). Jesus was totally devoted to God and his teaching so that seeking the love of marriage and the fathering of children was not any part of his consideration of his life (Mary: Being the Creator Pair we were forbidden to have children, and so there was no point marrying as we didn’t need such lawful conventions. And Jesus loved many women as he had a lot to do with them, as I did some men although not having that much to do with men in general, however he didn’t have other girlfriends as such, or need I say, affairs of the heart (and neither did I) - he had me and I him, and that was more than enough for both of us. And it was FAR more then anyone on Earth knew about, because we didn’t tell them, nor did we allow anyone to be involved with us during our private time together. And I will add here James, had Jesus and I had sexual intercourse I’d have immediately conceived, and as neither of us wanted children, so we refrained from going that far. Yes, at times we did sleep together, however not as often as we’d have liked to.). He really considered that his task was to care for all of the Father’s children and this he did and continues to do so until this time and will do so for all the time that this is needed however long this might be.
Many others want me to be His soulmate and to be with him in the Celestial Heavens (Mary: Because they can sense and even feel the truth). I am near him and participate in much of what he does but we are not soulmates. He has no soulmate (Mary: And James Reid can make such a statement as this because he did not embrace his Healing). His soul is bonded with that of the Father and in this he is marvellously completed and manifests the Love of The Father in ways that create wonder in all of us who observe. (Mary: Perhaps James Reid was influenced by Nicholas?) He is the perfect example for all of us and this we recognise.
I am with my soulmate and have been so for a long time now (Mary: True, and his name is Jesus!). He is one who was not involved with our group while on earth. His name was Aaron while he lived on earth although he is not known by this name now. I did not know him though we lived contemporaneously and only met him some time after we had both passed. He is a most wonderful being and we enjoy each other’s company and love greatly.
I was able to introduce him to Divine Love sometime after his passing when I was already living in the Celestial Realms. It is a great pleasure to find one’s soulmate when the time is ripe and this pleasure is completed when they too choose to take the Divine Love into their souls so that we may move and live together. Not all do find this joy as some beings are drawn to remain in the place where they feel satisfaction without any need to add anything further into the equation. We still continue to offer what we know is such a great gift.
I am sure that many would want to hear that my soulmate was someone with whom I had shared long years of blissful happiness on earth. This is rarely the case (Mary: True, for how can you when you are all in denial of love and the truth it holds. And for such love and truth to be shared between soulmates you would need to be true and perfect. So it’s not possible for soulmates to come together in the flesh or the mind worlds when you are doing all you can to repel each other. Only under certain conditions will soulmates unite on Earth so as to help each other do their Healing. However that does not necessarily mean everyone you might do some of your Healing with is your soulmate). The soulmate love is not one that leads one to seek out the other while in earth life. The usual draw in earth life that brings couples together is one of love and sexual attraction and the desire to form a family together to find happiness in this way.
Many now on earth feel that they have a drive to seek their soulmate whereas the truth is that even if they did find each other there may be little of no recognition or attraction (Mary: This is very true James). If there is attraction it may be to work together or to be friends rather than sexual partners or to marry (Mary: Only to help each other do ones Healing). The true attraction only becomes apparent when we have reached a certain stage of our progress when the true knowledge of soulmates comes to us (Mary: Yes, and only when it’s required by the soul, and everyone’s soulmate awareness time is unique and can’t be generalised, by which I mean, you can’t say: because or when I reach such and such a level of truth I will meet my soulmate; or, you will meet your soulmate when you achieve this... level of soul development). We then develop a natural desire to find and to enjoy the company of this other being. The finding and the growing together is most satisfying and, other than our association with the Soul, God, is the closest and dearest relationship that we have (Mary: True, it is the closest and dearest and in a very different way to the one you will have the Heavenly Mother and Father; and it will LAST FOREVER being ALWAYS completely satisfying and fulfilling and loving - BUT ONLY when you’ve fully healed yourself). I feel that there is little or no point in seeking for one’s soulmate until the time is ripe when all will fall into place (Mary: Like everything, you respond to your feelings, and if they make you feel bad you know what to do. So if you feel you want your soulmate you express this and all your other feelings good and bad that go along with it, all whilst longing for and wanting to know the truth of why you feel this way. There is never ‘no point’, there is only ever Feelings and more Feelings; so as everything will make you feel, so everything has a point. But if you feel there is no point then these are yet more feelings for you to fully embrace and express and seek the truth of). This is so of much of living in that all happens smoothly and harmoniously when the time is ripe (Mary: When you stay true to your feelings). The natural movement of all of us is towards harmony.
I know that a lot of is said of some having reincarnated to teach of Divine Love. This is unfortunate for it is not so and never will be so. It is not possible to do this by virtue of the structure of a human being and later a spirit being and their association with the soul. Completely new physical and spirit bodies are generated at the incarnation of each soul and the spirit body forms an indivisible association with the personality and the soul that is for all time. Reincarnation would require the breakdown of this association which would violate the appropriate spirit laws (me: of personality expression). I cannot imagine how a soul would survive as it is held safely in the spirit body (me: that soul is not held in the spirit body, the spirit body is if anything ‘held’ within the soul - it is sustained by the soul, for it to be within the spirit body would mean it’s evolutionary or experiential like what The Urantia Book says, which I disagree with. Mary: And it is as you say James, as we’ve spoken about. Thank you Mary.) which was created for this purpose. There is no valid reason for reincarnation to occur as, having lived once on earth, there is nothing more for a soul to gain there. (me: We can’t reincarnate again because then we’d become subjected to different influences from different parents, so we’d grow up differently, being a completely different person having to work through different yuk. We’ve got to work through all the yuk we have now because it is what is making us be the person we are and will become in the full true and pure expression of ourselves.) All that is needed is achievable here and with more facility and help.
I have no desire to expound about my life on earth other than what I have already said as I feel that this would provide little or nothing of value. While it might satisfy someone’s curiosity I feel no need to do so. I will say that the way in which one lives a life on earth in no way permanently determines the outcome when one enters the next phase of living in spirit. No one is damned to perdition or eternal punishment. Loves both natural and Divine are the most wonderful realities of living and, with these, all is possible. Much of the damnation that is perceived is of one man by another and in no way reflects the attitude of God, The Father whose love never wavers or slackens for a moment. In this all may have faith.
I do thank you for the opportunity to write with you today. I was aware of the discussion you were having with your friend and felt it appropriate to speak with you to give some information that may help you. Your work with the Divine Love in this way is of great value and we are all moved to help in any ways that we can. I will continue an association with your group so that I can write with you again if there is something that I can offer that adds to this project. (Mary: Jesus and I aren’t currently associated with any groups, nor have we been in the past - only with specific individuals for specific reasons.)
The focus for all of you who participate in this work needs to be on your present day and not on the time of our day when we sowed seeds as we could. The farmer looks not to the day of sowing when the crop needs care in its growing or at the time of harvests. Each day is sufficient to itself and needs to be treated as such. If all is done with love, care and awareness today then the lessons of the past are learned and the future will come when it does and all will have been prepared. All of the tools that you need are to hand. We provide what you may regard as fertiliser to feed the crop along its growing. (Mary: Yes, information about your Healing.)
You see how we learn from long ages of association with the Master Jesus. We all learn to tell stories as he did and still does today. (Mary: And by the way, Jesus doesn’t just tell endless stories. He had to when on Earth because the people weren’t able to understand direct straightforward truth, which we’d both prefer to speak. Why beat around the bush when you come straight to the point?)
As well as telling stories we are at hand to help where we can and where you will allow us and invite us into your daily living where we desire to move and sit with you to communicate and support all who will accept this. We are not so far away and we can have a much closer association.
I will leave you now with thanks and with great love. I am the one known on earth as Mary Magdalene.
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Post by James on Jan 2, 2017 22:08:16 GMT 10
SOULMATE comments by Celestial Spirit Richard: The Richard Messages 12 February 2013 You have done much heart and soul searching about a lot of what you have been taught in recent years. As you correctly surmise we have allowed and fostered your confusion and doubt in order to allow you to make your own decisions trusting your own intuition and capacity. You do need to rely on your own feelings and to make your own assessments as you have always done. Most of your recent doubt was of your own capacity as you had been strongly encouraged to abandon this is favour of the authority of another. You initially respected this authority and then began to feel that all was not as it was claimed and this was a wise and sound decision. Whereas AJ has a deep desire to help others and to teach and live in love he is not what he claims to be. Such an event (about AJ’s claim that he is Jesus) were it to occur would not be secret from the whole of the Celestial Realms (8th sphere and above). I, Richard, am pleased that your realisation has not caused you to discard all that you have been presented (AJ’s teachings – as there is much gold amongst the dross but dross there is aplenty. Your beliefs about the division of souls prior to incarnation is correct and this does produce soulmates who will at some time in their existence be strongly drawn to each other. Very often one mate will develop the awareness of the existence of the mate long before the other and will then seek the other out to connect and to help the advance of the other. This is well discussed in the writings of James Padgett (Book of Truths via Joseph Babinsky) who performed such wonderful work. Do soulmates eventually join together or blend into one being? (Mary: We always maintain our own individuality, however with time, and a very long time at that, the two might seem like they are one to those who can’t perceive the difference. It’s a misconception based on the mind and its notion of becoming at-one with the Mind of God, merging ones personality and soul into God and enjoying eternal bliss. We need to be ‘Two who are One’ for all eternity so as to keep maximising our soul expression and having someone to express and so share ourselves with - someone to love and feel loved by. So in that light, there is no hurry for you to find your soulmate, and staying focused on your feelings and their truth is the quickest way you’ll come back together.) I don’t know as I have not experienced this nor have I met any such combined being. That is not to say that is not possible or not part of our eventual development. I don’t know what I haven’t experienced and neither have I heard reports of this occurrence. Jesus is well known to us in these realms and we have not heard anything from him about this. You have been told much about soulmates as this is something that is of great importance to AJ. The search for one’s soulmate can be a frustrating experience especially as the ones searching while incarnate usually don’t have the knowledge or capacity to recognise their mate even if they found them. People imagine all sorts of ways to recognise the other and are, more often than not, quite misguided. Soulmate relationships do occur on earth and may be as friendships rather than spousal relationships. (Mary: I have previously commented on this.)Whether or not one does meet a soulmate during carnate life the main responsibility of every person is to be themselves as fully and as lovingly as possible (Mary: NO!, the main responsibility is to be true to your feelings. And your feelings will lead you to the truth that you are not loving because you were not loved. And if you try to override these unloving feelings you’ll deny yourself the truth of them. BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO FIND OUT WHY YOU ARE NOT LOVING, IF THAT IS HOW YOU FEEL YOU ARE. This is very important.) The search for a soulmate may indeed be a great distraction from one’s primary purpose in living. Each half of an original complete soul is designed to realise itself and to manifest its own potential and abilities. The coming together of soulmates on this side is usually when each has advanced to a considerable stage of realisation of self and individuality (me: through their Healing). The initial separation of soul parts is to enable this full realisation without the possible hindrance of the expression of the opposite half with all its differences. (Mary: The initial separation is so each half can fully individualise so you can both relate to each other as complete people and spirits, expressing the whole of your personality and all you think and feel, and all truly, as your soul needs you to be united so as to keep expressing you in Creation and growing you in truth and self-awareness all the while bringing you closer to the Mother and Father.)Living is a journey of self-discovery in order to return to Our Father with all of the gifts of realisation that we have garnered along the way. The reconnecting of soulmates is a stage that allows the next stage of realisation of self with the fitting together of the opposite halves and their experiences which produces the fulfilment of the experiences and a great advance of awareness. This is a magnificent experience in which one realises the true purpose of many of life’s experiences and many pieces fall into place. The connections between the experiences of soulmates are quite remarkable and quite incomprehensible until one experiences it. Perhaps this is what is misunderstood and spoken of as the soul union. Each finds a magnificent union when we enter into oneness with Our Father (upon entry into the 8th sphere). (Mary: ... Our Father and Mother, the Two ultimate SoulMates. This paragraph expresses the truth well.)Yet once more I say that you don’t really understand what I have been saying but perhaps feel easier with what you imagine happens. As you must gather from the above I (Richard) have met my soulmate and experienced this reunion for this is the best term to use. There is wonderful recognition and fulfilment in the experience with a sense that one of the major purposes of life has come to pass. As with all the major steps along the way one experiences and increase of lightness and beauty. I know it is hard to imagine that beauty and magnificence continues to increase when one already feels that nothing could be more beautiful than the present. Let me say though, everyone of us is totally content with the present in which we find ourselves because there is nowhere else to be at that moment (Mary: Yes, all very good, because when you are true to your feelings having healed everything that is stopping you from being so, then you are true to the moment and very happy and content in life). There is no yearning for something better but there is always the certainty that we are growing and progressing and that constant wonder is what awaits us. We never attempt to step further than we may as we are content in our Faith and our knowledge of Our Father’s love. (Mary: Good.)If we extend that approach into life on earth the same approach is possible. Acceptance of where one is emotionally, physically, mentally and spiritually is the greatest assistance for progress that is possible. Much emphasis is put on striving in life in order to ‘better oneself’. What does that really mean? Does it not imply that one is dissatisfied with one’s present situation? Acceptance is neither complacency nor stasis. Acceptance is the embodiment of Faith in Our Father and in the movement of life. (Mary: It’s acceptance of your feelings which is acceptance of yourself. And you’ll only become satisfied once you’re expressed out of you all the dissatisfaction.)It is easy to indicate the benefits of striving for betterment and to believe that these benefits could never have occurred without all the effort that was involved. There is virtue in effort when it is appropriately applied and I am not advocating indolence. I am saying that if one is acceptance of one’s position and at one with one’s desires then the effort required to achieve those desires is much less and will flow with ease and efficiency. There are many who have discovered the truth of this in the course of living and many more who will discover it in the future. Very few on earth have discovered the true power of existing in true harmony with the Laws of Our Father. The power that is available to anyone who exists in this way is unimaginable. (Mary: Yes, however Richard being a Celestial is speaking about his experience whilst failing to elucidate on the Healing he has done himself, all in keeping with the restrictions imposed on him owing to the Rebellion and where James Reid was in his growth at the time.)You wonder if this power can be abused or only used for good and this is a valid point. In the ultimate sense being in total harmony with all of the laws implies that one must also be fully loving. There are situations where individuals have developed a capacity to use portions of these powers in quite remarkable ways without being totally loving. This will be seen more as the evolutionary process continues as all possibilities will probably occur and many variations will appear. There will be stages of increasing levels of harmony with the Laws and this will manifest in demonstrations of increasing abilities of humans to act on the earth in what may seem like godlike ways (Mary: Yes, from people who are well progressed in their Healing or have fully healed themselves). Is this not one would expect along the way to becoming at one with Our Father? These powers will not be found by striving for them but will be given as a living inheritance from a loving Father. There is a point when men realise that they don’t need to control nature or the laws of nature. There are already perfectly effective control measures in place. There is no need to fight or struggle with life. (Mary: Your Healing will sort this all out for you, for all of humanity, as humanity will slowly change expressing the truth people will reveal through their feelings. Humanity will be able to live with more feeling, more compassion and understanding, acceptance and love, BUT ONLY BY DOING YOUR HEALING. Humanity will never do it by trying to assert its mind.)Seek harmony within yourself and extend this to your immediate surroundings and feel this harmony entering your desires. (Mary: All this sort of encouragement is meaningless, you have to stop all this mind stuff and instead look to your feelings, for they are the way for you to free yourself and live all of this naturally that so many think can be lived through the mind.) All changes begin with individuals and extend from individuals until one realises that individuality is best realised within oneness with all that exists. This seems enigmatic until experienced and the realisation comes that it could never be any other way. Enough for tonight my dear brother as we have done much and actually more than you realise. As with most issues we cover we will revisit these issues many times. Go with my love and the blessings of all of us and know that you are loved beyond measure. Richard The Richard Messages via James Reid www.lulu.com
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Post by James on Jan 3, 2017 22:16:27 GMT 10
The RICHARD MESSAGES: Celestial Spirit Richard 25 February 2013 Good morning Richard and other dear friends. We are in the middle of a deluge which is providing a pleasant and quiet place albeit very damp. Richard, I was aware of chatting with you in a dreamy way earlier about soulmates and sexuality and I am very interested in this as you well know. I am aware that the whole field is very complex as I could feel this in our earlier chat. I am interested in taking this discussion further. I am sure that there is enough material here for several books on this subject alone.
However, a beginning will, I am sure, be very interesting to many of us. Good morning my dear brother. Welcome once more to our talks. This seems a more appropriate term to describe our meetings. We do indeed have many talks which you may regard as ‘off the record’ but which are important and do set the scene for our later more formal discussions or writing. Our informal talks arise from your questions and musing to which we respond with comments and questions as appropriate. Your own curiosity and desire leads you into many areas of exploration and there are unlimited such areas through which you could wander as do many of those touring your world with open mouths and closed minds. What a pointless exercise this is! It is well that you enter with questions in mind and not simply curiosity. There is a place and time for sightseeing but you will see the same sights and with much greater interest and learning when there is purpose in your exploration.
Within the overall area of Our Father’s creation of all that exists many variations and possibilities of variations have existed since the beginning and many more have arisen along the way and continue to do so. As I have said before the process of living that exists is in a constant state of evolution and change and was made to be so. Accept this before we begin any discussion of any topic at all. What we say at any time will change over the course of time to some degree. What I will say about the subject you have mooted will be largely in what I may call specific generalities if that makes any sense to you. By this I mean that what I say will allow for variation and is not to be taken as the absolute last word on this subject or any other topic we discuss. This is not said to diminish in any way the value of what I say but to respect the complexity of the issues we discuss. This complexity is inherent in the subject but is much more so because of your limited capacity to comprehend what I say. Each of you will make sense of what I say in a way that is understandable to you and you may well find consensus in your groups as well. I will be presenting information as I know it to be and encourage your questions when you find obscurity or confusion.
One of the most wonderful aspects of Creation is the allowance of almost unlimited variation of form and the expressions of that variability in all aspects of the forms created. We have variety upon variety.
Humanity has developed a great desire to catalogue and list the variations in order to understand what is called Nature. In this process there has arisen a need to find the ‘normal’ which usually means the most common form within a vast variety. So what is apparently most common becomes regarded as normal and the rest acquires a cloak of ‘abnormality’ to varying degrees. This is unfortunate and colours the attitude of the majority of most people to what they regard as not normal in the context of their own ‘normality’.
Let me put this in some context from my perspective as an inhabitant of the Celestial Realms (8th sphere and upwards). There are vast numbers of souls in the World of Spirit (1st through to 6th sphere) and these are spread over the many spheres that exist and within what may be regarded as the sub-spheres within these. The densest population of spirits appears to be within the upper first and second spheres.
The least dense population exists in the Celestial Realms! Now this makes us ‘fringe dwellers’ in the terms of many worldly attitudes. Indeed we are so regarded by many if not most of the inhabitants of the lower spheres as we do look different to them. This creates some difficulty for us in contacting them. We are as normal as they as you are as normal as your neighbour and brother and sister even though you may look completely different and speak different languages and not understand each other.
You see, you are respecting and heeding the words of one who is regarded as at least different in his own broad world by the majority of inhabitants. This analogy taken into the context of your world is no less apt. The bulk of the herd inherits the cloak of normality and appears to wield the power in your planet. Throughout time the leaders of the greatest change have usually arisen from the fringes as these are the areas of humanity with the greatest acknowledgment of and respect for the wonders of variability and the true breadth of normality. In fact, some of those who are giving the appearance of being from the fringe and pushing for change in your world at present are not truly so and are actually attempting to push old standards of normality for their own purposes while claiming that their interest is the benefit of humanity as a whole. Beware the dissemblers. I leave the consideration of that to you.
My group of fringe dwellers is moving to remove the fringes by inviting all to join us. We would have all with us in our realms. Our desire is to remove normality so that all are accepted without judgment.
Normality is a judgment that no one deserves.
Let us begin with the consideration that Our Father creates souls as duplex and entire entities. Each soul so created has two entire ‘halves’ joined in a whole. Each of these halves is created to live as a complete individual and the two are called soulmates. At the time of creation these parts exist but without individuation, without Free Will and essentially without awareness but with all the attributes of life and are a reflection of their Creator. (Mary: True.) Let this statement stand on its own and let your mind consider this over time.
Don’t struggle with attempting to understand this now.
Now the broadest classification of living creatures is by sexuality with the norms being masculinity and femininity with those two terms being regarded as absolutes and opposite aspects. These aspects do exist but as a continuum not as opposite poles. In all of the following discussion we will come up against the dichotomous thinking that is virtually universal in humanity.
I will digress a little here but I feel that this is necessary. The Universe is not a place of opposites despite the efforts of man to make this so. From black and white, male and female all the way through to Heaven and Hell and God and Satan man has developed the ‘need’ to create opposites in order to ‘understand’ the aspects of life. Herein lies the basis of most private heavens and hells because here is the basis of fragmentation of this magnificent family of ours. In this dichotomy is similarity lost and difference found and love founders. How I urge you all to seek the similarities with your brothers and sisters as we are truly all one. Apply this across the board and apply it to yourselves and us as we are more similar than different. There is a continuum across all life. Think only of human life for a moment which has its beginnings in the creation of a soul by Our Father and the continuum goes all the way back to Our Father without break or separation occurring at any point. This statement contains a profundity which you are beginning to accept and will accept more and more along your journey. I give you my absolute assurance that this is so and, furthermore, that you will never cease to wonder at the magnificent beauty and total simplicity of this continuum.
What I have said is necessary but doesn’t necessarily simplify our further discussion as we will regress into the dichotomy from time to time to attempt to make sense of what we consider. You see, a continuum has no true beginning or ending does it? Therefore any beginning we make will immediately beg the question to some degree. Nevertheless I ask you to accept these limitations and acknowledge that some of what we say will be in terms that you may currently understand and accept even though it is not true in an absolute sense.
Smaller creatures such as single cell ones and what may be regarded as simple animals express sexuality in a simple manner and may be the only ones to fully express simple maleness and femaleness. Some of them indeed do this sequentially within themselves. It is probably true to say that all complex creatures express and exhibit some aspects of both genders to some degree often or usually with one aspect dominant. Let us then assume that all souls are created with aspects of both genders. This is so and is not an assumption.
For the purposes of our discussion let us regard masculinity (M) and femininity (F) as being the opposite ends of a line with the line representing the varying degrees of M & F that may be expressed or inherent in the souls along this line so the midpoint represents a 50/50 balance of M/F. Let M be the left hand end and F be the right hand end. This then implies that as we move to the left the souls will be more male and less female and the reverse will apply towards the right end. If we plot numbers then we come up with the so called Bell Curve of distribution that you are all familiar with from your exposure to science.
Here now we must introduce the first of our non-linear aspects of the continuum. The M end does not represent an absence of femininity not the F end an absence of masculinity. There are aspects of both genders present at all points of this continuum and the linear representation creates the illusion that this is not so. To illustrate with an analogy, if you look at a distribution curve of height of humans the extreme ends don’t represent no height at all but only the tallest and smallest heights recorded.
The sexuality of the souls while still entire falls along the points of this distribution so that the bulk fall in the middle of the curve with relatively equal amount of M/F and with varying amounts on each side of this point as we move to the ‘fringes’. I will use this term while encouraging you to remember that continua do not have fringes. This leads to the interesting phenomenon that occurs when the souls divide (me: The soul doesn’t divide as such, it’s already of both halves and expressing each half as a full person upon that persons time of incarnation) and incarnate. Essentially all bodies into which souls incarnate (me: souls don’t incarnate into bodies; the soul brings the body forth into Creation.) will be clearly male or female.
There are of course numbers with mixed or blurred external sexual characteristics but most are not so.
For the purposes of our discussion I choose to move to a simplification here to avoid unnecessary complexity.
The souls at the left hand end of the line we postulate are therefore much more M and less F and these souls when they incarnate will both incarnate as males. Those at the other end will both incarnate as females. These beings therefore have soulmates of the same sex. (Mary: This is untrue, soul mates are ALWAYS of the opposite sex. People who are homosexual are only so because of their parenting and the inherited lines of such dysfunction that manifest with them. When homosexuals, people or spirits, do their Healing, they will heal their homosexuality.) These beings are homosexual and often become regarded as odd and thrust to the fringes of your society. Perhaps oddly they then often find more acceptance in the fringes than in the rejecting ‘norm’. Those in the middle will incarnate as males and females in equal numbers and will have soulmates of the opposite sex. Of course there is no clear dividing line and there will be many along the line where there is less apparent clarity. Some of these cases may account for the blurring in some bodies but not necessarily so. So now we have a delightfully complex arrangement of humans with vast variations of sexuality and of the expression of this. Here is a classifier’s nightmare and the usually chosen answer is to draw black and white lines and to name a normality which, in truth, fits almost no person. (Mary, why is Richard going on about all this stuff when it sounds like padding and half of it is not true? Mary: because James is struggling with it but won’t come clean with his feelings. So Richard is trying to help him but the way is not clear and so he is fitting in with what James insists on believing and wanting to hear.)
Many of those who write about soulmates state that everyone who exists has a soulmate of the opposite sex. This statement is rather glib and will lead to confusion for many who cannot conceive having a soulmate of the opposite sex. (Mary: it’s not glib, it’s true. There would be no point in having soul mates of the same sex because they’d not be able to share and express all the opposite to each other, all that’s needed so as to keep growing in truth. Being of the same sex you are too similar even if one of the pair for example, one of the men is more ‘female’ in his ways. They are both still men, and the energy within the spirit systems of the pair being the same sex is going the same way, and not in the opposite direction as between heterosexual pairs. The reasons, and so truth, of why someone is homosexual will be traced back to their relationship with their parents, it’s all with in you, the truth, you only have to want to find it. And eventually being gay will not make you feel good, and so you will want to know why you are gay. And I will add James, being gay is no more (or even no less) sinful or evil than being heterosexual, it’s just a different expression of ones wrongness.)
In the framework of such outlandishly unloving classifications is it any wonder that so many people wander in great confusion attempting to conform to a norm that fits no one let alone them! Added to that, the classification is applied with force and the engendering of huge amounts of fear. Then the religions come into play and say that God condemns those of His own creation who do not conform to a manmade system! What a monstrous God is so created in the minds of so many men! Now we have fear of the ‘different’ ones and the acceptance, albeit often fearful, of the ‘similars’. The continuum still exists but is rarely recognised. It is relegated to the region of the esoteric.
Can you see that this is only one example of the fragmentation of our one family that has occurred over time and which we now work to overcome? Whatever any one being can do to move towards reunification of what has never really been divided is a healing move and greatly desired. Any time anyone takes time to attempt to look beyond an apparent difference, that person may be rewarded with a wonderful discovery of a previously unsuspected similarity.
Our discussion is very brief and incomplete but is a beginning. I have simplified greatly and will be happy to receive questions from any of the readers of this as I do desire that this issue be better understood and accepted. So many find it easy to live with their rejection of others who are remote from them but much more difficulty in dealing with differences in their most immediate neighbours. This can be much more threatening. Break now. Monday, 25 February 2013 15:27
Good afternoon Richard. All of you in the Celestial Realms have strong feelings about the fragmentation in humanity and strong desire to remedy this. Thank you for the writing today. It does raise a lot of questions.
Thank you for your gratitude. It is not correct that we have strong feelings about the fragmentation. We simply acknowledge that this is so. Each of us has contributed to it at some time in our own way as we lived our lives. Each of us now has the strong desire to catalyse and foster the changes that will lead back to the one family. Dichotomy is disunity and unity is the aim of the evolutionary process now under way. I will add here a paragraph that adds to the previous writing.
Those who incarnate as clearly M or F will have greatly differing gender balances within themselves and this should be obvious to even a casual observer. There are masculine females and feminine males and very male males and very feminine females. There are also those who are well balanced. This also applies to those who incarnate homosexually. What then is normal and abnormal? The only answer that can be truly given is that all is normal in the eyes of Our Father. Who can legitimately question that without disregarding our true parentage? Perhaps the central challenge is to fully accept that Our Father is our true parent without trying to attribute falsity to Him. The full acceptance of this is not as easy as many would like to believe and others would wish. First each one must accept that old beliefs are as strong as they are. One must acknowledge the old facts with which you have lived all of your lives.
They won’t easily be denied or supplanted. Your prayer to Our Father and the Divine Love will assist you with this. Do be kind to yourselves and don’t imagine that you have stepped further than you have.
On the way along our spiritual paths you will find that you only move ahead when you are truly ready and not when you think or feel that you should. Keep moving steadily along with desire and love and the forward steps will always occur at the right moments and you will know that this has happened.
Whereas I and many others speak of Our Father as male this is not our knowledge of him. All expressions of masculinity and femininity are possible and exist within His Creation and therefore within Him. My knowledge of Our Father (and this is yet incomplete) is that, as the Creator of the continuum of all life He is a part of this continuum and not standing without looking in. We who have moved into these realms have become At One with God and move in harmony with Him but are not all knowing. We are as we are and content to be so and also content to have been as we have been and to be as we will become. I can only speak of what I know and that is wonderful and I am constantly full of wonder. (Mary: Richard is stirring James up with these messages, putting out bits that James could follow if he was trying to honour his feelings. However he didn’t honour his feeling enough so didn’t question Richard deeper. This we did with you James, as will all Celestials who are working with people on earth or in the mind mansion worlds; and you honoured your feelings James and look where it’s got you? Yes, and am I supposed to laugh or cry Mary? Mary: I’ll leave that up to you James.)
As I said earlier, by our very nature we (Celestial Spirits) are fringe dwellers here and are viewed with suspicion by many. This casts a wonderful light on those of you who are now moving towards this realm and who will bring the light you carry with you in what is perceived as much less threatening by those you will encounter on your journey. You have now and will continue to have the ability to share your knowledge with many souls who are not yet privy to the knowledge of Divine Love. Think of your own experiences in your life when you have been able to take information from a friend or colleague when you had resisted the same information or advice from another who was maybe perceived as different. This applies to you now on earth as well as on this side when you arrive here in your own time.
That we are seen as fringe dwellers indicates the attitude that is inculcated in virtually all of humanity and which is carried here and which is to look down to find self-justification. This attitude is demeaning and decreases the value of all concerned. No one can step up on the disregard and degradation of those seen to be below. One is drawn upwards by the desire for and the love and respect of Our Father.
This is enough for today. Go with the love of all of us who thank you for your part in our work. Go with the blessings of all of us. Your loving brother, Richard
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SOULMATES: Received by H.R. Cuenca, Ecuador September 24th, 2001My dear brother H___, the moment has arrived to go a little deeper into the topic of soulmates. I will do this in one message, but there will surely be more, because more questions will arise, because you, most of you, do not have the capacity to understand everything (me: I think we have the capacity if it’s explained to us). First I want to repeat that soulmate love doesn't have anything to do with sexuality, a fact which many can accept, although they may not understand this (me: Why don’t we understand it?). Second, I want to repeat that the soul doesn't have sex, it doesn't have gender, so that there may be no confusion or ambiguity. The soul is neither female nor male (me: That’s right, however it does express female and male personalities into Creation). And this affirmation, as you know, contradicts several statements in the Padgett messages. Let's analyse a little bit the message which Josephus Flavius, the Jewish historian, wrote to Mr. Padgett. He said: “Therefore, the man and the woman are equal in their dignity, and in the relationship which they bear to God, and the one is of just as much importance in the sight of God as is the other. One was created stronger, physically, than the other, and also was given a stronger mentality, for the exercise of the reasoning powers, and the workings of the physical organs of the body. And the other, while weaker in these particulars, yet was given more of the spiritual and emotional nature and also, an intuition by which she could understand the existence of things just as accurately and more quickly than could the man by the exercise of his reasoning power (me: Yep, that’s Marion and I in many ways). One was just as the other as respects the gifts bestowed, and together, they were the perfect pair - male and female were they created, with diverse functions and duties to perform in the perfect workings of the laws of God ” Very well. Without entering now into a discussion about the scarcely justified affirmation that women’s intellectual power is inferior, it is clear that this passage refers to men and women as they exist on earth. (me: I don’t read it as saying that, I read it that women have different ways of using their mental power more in line with their feelings. Marion for example is far more mentally alert and smarter and intellectual that I am, however she’s not interested in working things out mentally to the nth degree like I am with certain things. She works spontaneously in harmony with her feelings, which leaves me for dead. She doesn’t want to accumulate information, however what she wants to remember she does, whereas I’m forever forgetting things. She is far more on the ball and astute than I am, I’m dull compared to her. And my mind always needs a frame of reference within which to work, whereas she is freer in her mind not needing to process the extra volume I always do. I can see that this spirit is referring to women and men from how they were viewed more probably during his day on Earth, but now in our more liberated days, ha, ha...)It tells of man's stronger body, of his stronger mentality, etc., and speaks of the women's superior spirituality. Well, we all know that man and woman are different, not only in their body, but also in their mind. The question is why? Is it for the difference in their soul, and does Josephus' explanation describe therefore properties of the soul? Or does it describe differences in the body and in what we call the material mind? I think it is obvious to everybody that this passage deals with the last statement. The formation of the material mind, which in fact is very different between man and woman, is determined by a multitude of factors, among others education and hormones. It is an ingenious system, which permits mankind's survival, and which permits the execution of functions distributed between man and woman, and which, of course, also causes a series of problems. A great part of the mental difference between man and woman is due directly or indirectly to sexuality (me: Yes, all because we’re living untrue to ourselves. If we were living true they’d be no problem, no problems between men and woman at all. We live actually rejecting and hating each other - rebelling against each other because each of us is the ‘living truth’ and the Rebellion is about rejecting and rebelling against the truth, which we fail to understand and override because if we accepted that then we’d have no relationships at all; or, we would learn how to live together hating each other and being true to those feelings... which in turn would lead us to understand why we hate each other, and heal us of our hatred, bringing us into being loving with each other). In the spirit world hormones don't exist. The spirit body doesn't need them. Sexual desire continues to exist during the first stages of spirit life, but no longer in the same form as on earth, largely incited by hormonal activity and through the desire for pleasure (me: And again, our hormones are only out of balance because we’re fully out of balance living untrue to ourselves. The fact that we can have ‘loving’ relationships at all shows just how incredible it is that we can override and bury our true feelings). It continues to exist because sexuality in the earth life has also become a habit, a form of stereotypical expression (me: It is used as a means of our gaining the power we feel we’re deprived of, and although these more physical urges might disappear in spirit, still the need to gain power because we inherently feel powerless is there, so we do other things to empower our mind so as to make us feel good, all at the expense of our true feelings). But all that, little by little, disappears in the spirit world. Human sexuality is also different from purely animal sexuality through the additional factor of love. That love does survive, it is one in the forms of natural love, like the love men feel for their children, their parents, even the love that they feel for their friends. And even those forms of love, in the earth life, are dominated, or at least influenced by sexuality, although people may not be aware of this. But in spirit life, sexuality disappears. Sexuality is one of the main factors determining the bonds with earth, and as I have already said, it is precisely in the fourth sphere where these bonds disappear. This disappearance is one of the preconditions for additional spiritual progress. What remains is pure love, there still remain some encrustments of the soul, too, and certain negative tendencies, but even they will disappear. (me: I don’t know about this, sexuality I agree with might disappear, but I still understand that we are male and female all the way along to the end of time. I would imagine of course the whole sex stuff no longer exists, however Mary and Jesus are still very much identifiable as a woman and man spirit. Mary: We are, very much so James, I look very much a woman as Jesus does look a man, which is the whole reason for incarnating, for the soul to express its two halves this way - as a whole woman and a whole man, who will love each other dearly for the rest of eternity.)The love more or less purified, after this loss of material bonds, puts its most powerful component, soulmate love, into the foreground. There is a "fraternal" love for all humanity, without distinctions, but the attraction between soulmates is incomparable with the first one. You have also heard that the soul condition determines the appearance of the spirit body. Therefore you can imagine that the inhabitants of the high planes of the fourth sphere and of the even higher spheres logically have no longer a marked appearance of virility or femininity. They are beautiful, simply beautiful. Earth life becomes ever more a distant memory of minor importance, and it is of no import whether somebody has been born male or female. They are simply happy souls. (me: Yes, well I don’t know about this, especially in light of what Mary just said. But I can see what he’s getting at, there because we’re so distorted in our view of the male and female and with all the sex stuff being the most important.)
Hence everybody wonders, what is then this soulmate love, what determines that attraction? This is more difficult to answer, but I will try to. You surely remember this image, in which I compared the soul to a wooden cabin, which little by little, through the acquisition of Divine Love, becomes a brick house, changing in substance, but maintaining its structure (me: Only as we do our Healing, and personally I’d prefer a wood house any day). It is exactly this resemblance in structure that determines this attraction, it is the same principle which governs the scope of the Law of Attraction, but of course, it is not this law, but a different group of laws that operate on natural love. When somebody says that it may like love, like the attraction that exists among friends, it is not exactly correct, because it goes much beyond that, but the example is well chosen, because it takes away the sexual component which causes so much confusion. The reason is that some spiritualists, like Swedenborg, described scenes like "celestial weddings" between soulmates, suggesting relationships similar to the matrimonial relationships on earth, only "purer." (me: Yes, performed in the mind worlds by spirits believing they have met their soulmates, just like it is here on Earth. It illustrating how the mind has just as much control in spirit as it does here - and even more so in the higher mind worlds.) But that is what they wanted to see, didn't they also see spirits who provided those recently arrived ones, or recently deceased ones, with food etc. What food, may I ask? It is a serious error to make wholesale transpositions of earth life situations into spirit life. Certain things here really are similar, because we need them for our well-being, like houses, landscapes, stimuli in general. But we all agree that it is not sexuality. How then is the life of a couple, without having to raise children, without having sexual relationship? Is it like an intimate friendship? Well, something of the like, it is true, but very much stronger and more intense. The appearance of highly developed spirits, where sexual features are no longer observed, is described as androgynous, but this word, in this context, is a double error in itself. It means male-female, but the appearance of which I am speaking is neither masculine, nor feminine, and definitely not a combination of both. Man and woman's sexuality, at the core, serves reproduction, and it has superimposed a layer of spirituality, or it should have it, but the purpose of sexuality no longer exists in the spirit world. We don't need to eat in this life, so why should we have digestive organs? For what is the sex of the soul good for, when the very name "sex" already indicates its intimate relationship with sexuality? The relationship between soulmates, being a strong attraction, has a very great importance in the higher spheres of natural love. But how are things in the spheres of Divine Love? You have read that all forms of natural love disappear in the Celestial spheres. (Mary: Our Natural love doesn’t of itself disappear, it just is imbued with the Divine Love, so we always feel what might be called a natural attraction and love for our soulpartner, this being a more intense and specific love than what we feel for our friends, and then there is also the very special feeling we have for our Mother and Father coming from the inclusion of the Divine Love within our soul. And these feelings of higher deeper soul-love for the Mother and Father also influence and imbue our personal Natural love feelings. There is always the two, we relating to each other, we all being creatures of Creation - children of our Heavenly Parents; and then the ‘extra’ love for our Mother and Father, They being our true Parents and Creators. And the higher one ascends with the more Divine Love in ones soul, the more ones Natural love moves into alignment with the Divine Love, until one may feel that one no longer has Natural love, however it’s still there.) It is logical, because natural love is an attribute of the natural soul. But in the Celestial Heavens there is no trace at all of the natural soul. The last remains have already been transformed in the seventh sphere. But does soulmate love, which is a form of natural love, survive? How? I will try to explain it. I have already mentioned that the strong attraction between soulmates is due to the resemblance of their soul's structure. Even with the soul's transformation, this attraction continues to exist, because the change has not been structural, but substantial. And this statement has validity during the first stages of Celestial life. Of course, Celestial spirits try to help their soulmates in the spiritual spheres, so that they may also reach this Kingdom of happiness and share their happiness with them. And the innate attraction contributes to the great success of this undertaking. But, as we know, all spirits have their free will. And at times these efforts are vain. Although Celestial spirits may interrupt their own development in order to await their left behind mates, the day comes when they will no longer do this and they dedicate themselves more to their own development. (Mary: That’s not quite right because a soulmate will never leave behind - abandon - its other half. It might have to do other things whilst it’s waiting for its partner to ascend higher, even causing further ascension of itself which its partner will also have to do before the union can fully take place, but eventually it will occur as it has to so both can continue their ascension. You reach a point in your soul-growth whereby you must be united with your soulpartner to continue ascending, there are Laws governing this. And all who leave Nebadon must leave as a soulmate united pair in a soul-group, you can exist in the greater universe with being together as one.) And as I have described previously, the transformed soul in substance also begins with an endless transformation in structure. The small brick house becomes a glass palace. And as it changes in structure, attraction will decrease. This love disappears. (me: I don’t understand this part, for the attraction only increases with soulmates so far as I understand - how could it be otherwise?)I have also said that the day will come, when this separation will be definitive. But what will happen then with the poor separate couples? Will they weep their sorrow throughout eternity? You have also read that the union of separate soulmates is not necessary for enjoying full happiness. How is that possible? And if this is so, what are soulmates good for? (Mary: Whilst one can be very happy within oneself without ones soulmate, still there is nothing like enjoying the extra blissful feelings of eternal love with your soulpartner. On the Day of Separation as is spoken about in the Padgett Messages when the availability of the Divine Love is withdrawn, when the Holy Spirit withdraws from the mind worlds the offer of God’s Love, there will not be a separation of soulmates as is suggested here. If one of the pair has begun her or his Healing or has completed it living in the Celestial spheres, then its ‘other half’ will still be able to partake of the Divine Love so it can begin or complete its Healing if it has already started it. The Divine Love will continue to be readily available for these truth-seeking-through-their-feelings people and spirits, so eventually they will be able to move into being with their soulpartner in the Celestial Heavens. It will only be those soulmate pairs that wish to remain solely of their minds in rebellion against the truth of themselves, Jesus and I and the Mother and Father, that will have to wait until the Divine Love is made available again. It would be too cruel depriving the soulmate union of both concerned, simply because one of the pair wasn’t ready to long for the Divine Love and begin their Healing at such a time.)Well, first I wish to tell you frankly that we ignore why the Father created or continues creating souls in pairs. But in fact, the happiness, with or without finding the second half of oneself, is absolute. The union of a couple simply gives some additional touch of happiness, which seems a contradiction with the word "absolute", but I will give you an illustration: The Father is so good that we feel like already supremely happy children who suddenly find themselves in front of an enormous table, heaped with chocolates and candies of all kinds. Our bright eyes open up wide, and we want to try this and that, but no, that one over there looks even more tempting, and we are really flabbergasted by the enormous quantity of sweets, which are all first class, and we would like so much to try them all, but we simply lack the capacity. It is a delirium of happiness. The relationship between soulmates is but one of these candies, there are thousands more that you don't even know or may imagine. It is an additional touch of happiness, without substantial weight. (Mary: Don’t underestimate the soulmate relationship or the feelings it will give you - there is nothing like it! It eclipses all other Natural love feelings, as so it should; however it is also nothing like your extra special relationship you have with your Mother and Father, that is just something else besides.)It is a pity that mortals focus so much on this question, but there are many more questions of much greater importance. But I believe that now you understand the problem a little more. But let's continue. The question also arose, if homosexuals have to suffer in the spirit world for their homosexuality. OK, I will answer directly: Definitively not! I say this if we speak of the sole fact of being homosexual. (Mary: Homosexuals will have to suffer along with heterosexuals for you all suffer because of the pain you are in within your rebellious states. But as I said, being gay isn’t an extra sin bringing about even more suffering.)The explanation is as follows: In a previous message I have already explained that homosexuality is not the norm, but neither is it unnatural, in the sense that, by reasons of psychology, in any culture and form of society there is a certain number of homosexuals. Homosexuality is the product of the sexual stamp, of sexual fixation, like heterosexuality, the sexual attraction simply goes for the same sex, for one or the other reason. Homosexuals suffer, but they suffer on earth, because of intolerances. But let's have a look at the situation in the spirit world. We said once that God's laws develop at different levels, there are material laws, spiritual laws, laws that govern Divinity, in fact, there are many more levels, but what I have mentioned is good enough to build a model for your understanding. Sexuality, heterosexuality as well as homosexuality, in their basic physical form, is governed according to material laws. The spiritual part is the one which is governed according to spiritual laws. In other words, the superimposed love is what determines the favourable or unfavourable consequences in the spirit world. And the criteria are the same for homosexuals as for heterosexuals. In principle there is no difference. As for soulmates, I already enlarged on the topic, but I repeat: Sexuality has nothing to do with soulmates. This is an idea based on earthly notions, which cannot be transposed so simply into the situation of the spirit world. It is a fact that sexual abuse does exist, among homosexuals as well as heterosexuals, and those are, of course, deeds out of harmony with God's laws, because the spiritual laws are basically laws of love, all of them, in principle, serve loving purposes. Abuse is never a form of love. The pleasure of sexuality, in the case of human beings, has changed its value, in comparison to animals. It is no longer only a stimulus to foster reproduction, but you may consider it as an additional prize, an instrument for intensifying relationship. But it should never be the sole purpose. Although there are people who justify their tremendous promiscuity with their inability to find true love, I want to state that it is more certain and more sincere to say that they don't look for it, what they are looking for is sex. He or she who searches, will find. Not all relationships are necessarily on the base of true love, and the consequence is divorce. But I will dedicate a separate message to this topic, which interests and concerns so may, also you, my dear brother, as you have already passed through this horrible experience. In concluding this already very long message, I desire to speak of AIDS. Homosexuality is not the cause of AIDS. Its explosive spreading is a consequence of inharmony, which exists in mankind's life, on all levels. It is time now to stop. I will leave you now with my love and my blessings. Yes, you are right, it is a pretty long message, but as I fear, not all will like it. But I am happy that you have received it well. There will be many questions, many doubts, and more messages will come on the topic. But I repeat that the topic of soulmates has no relevance at all for you on earth (me: I disagree with that, sure we might not be able to be with our soulmate, and we have to get on with our Healing, but still it has a huge relevance because surely it’s part of what we all want.). There are other and much more important things you should worry about than this, and you should do it right now. Well, H___, I will say good-bye. I want to extend my blessings to all mankind, and I pray that they may come to reason. Your brother in the spirit, Judas. new-birth.net/contemporary-messages/messages-sorted-year/messages-2001/soulmates-hr-24-sept-2001/ Judas of Kerioth – www.lulu.comReceived by H.R. Cuenca, Ecuador October 6th, 2001Our dear D___ asks the following question: “Are there eternal soulmates existing in the spirit world right now who were formerly both males as mortals, and are there eternal soulmates existing in the spirit world right now who were formerly both females as mortals? If both propositions are indeed true, then it would seem that either one of two things would have to occur on the mortal plane: Either the unincarnated soul sometimes has the composition of two males to be, or two females to be, or: If the unincarnated soul always does have a male/female division, then the male has a male soulmate apart from his original female counterpart, and his female counterpart has a female soulmate apart from her original male counterpart. Are there any other alternative possibilities? Which applies above, if not?” First I will answer: Yes, right now there are eternal soulmates existing in the spirit world who were formerly both males as mortals, and there are also eternal soulmates existing in the spirit world right now who were formerly both females as mortals. And you would be surprised to know how many there are. (me: Yes I would, for I disagree with this as Mary has said above. Do we all have to somehow accept that homosexuality is right? It’s not right, but it doesn’t mean that people should be condemned for it. It’s not right like everything else that’s not right with us irrespective of whether or not we’re gay or straight. And many gay people are far more feeling-expressive then straights, and this will stand then in good stead once they come to do their Healing.)The answer to the second part is that the unincarnated soul sometimes has the composition of two males to be, or two females to be. (Mary: No it doesn’t. So Mary, why is this spirit, whom personally I doubt is Judas, saying such things? Mary: Because it’s in keeping with what the receiver of this message wants to hear, he has formed beliefs that he wants substantiated and so the spirit is complying with those wishes, it all being mostly unconscious on the receivers part. And it’s not Judas James, it is another spirit that’s one of the receivers spirit group who are helping him grow in truth by furthering his untruth in this way. Which, as I said regarding James Reid, should stir up bad feelings within the receiver, things shouldn’t add up, and if he were to honour these bad feelings questioning himself and them the spirit imparting such information, his feelings would eventually lead him to the truth, and the spirit would then move with him. This working with spirits is more for the person working with the spirit, to help them evolve their soul. The written word which you are reading James is only the end product and really is not that important because it’s for each of you to work out the truths for yourselves through your feelings. Much more is always going on between the mortal and the spirit than what you can read being the outsider who is only reading these words. And really it’s in those inner realms that one should be concerned with oneself. And as you can’t know what’s going in the receivers mind, so it’s hard for you to grasp on what level the spirit is and why he’s saying things as he is.) But watch out! Both will incarnate in males or females IN THE FUTURE, because despite what the Padgett messages may tell you, the soul has no sex. And to avoid any confusion, (me: I’m already confused!) I wish to state that the soul has no gender, it is neither female nor male, and that the condition of woman or man is determined exclusively by the physical body, and that definition continues being reflected in the lower spheres of the spirit world in their spiritual bodies, because the appearance of that body is the product of the soul’s creative power, still influenced by its physical experience in the mortal body, but this difference disappears eventually as the soul (the spirit) progresses to higher spheres. Soulmate love doesn't have anything to do with sexuality, neither with the physical body’s sex, which the incarnated souls have occupied in their mortal lives. Sexuality and soulmate love move on completely different levels, the first one on the material level, and the second one on a high spiritual level. Soulmate love is just a word for mortals, you cannot understand it, although you may not like to hear this (me: Surely you can if you experience it, and many will in future as they do and complete their Healing whilst on Earth). Even spirits in the lower spheres of the spirit world don't have enough development, so they might [me: not?] understand this form of natural love [me: either?]. You know (but you don't understand) that soulmate love is only exceeded by God's Love (me: Why don’t he/we understand? Oh god I’m sick of these messages, I don’t want to read anymore. I wish someone would come and criticise my messages! I can see that part of the annoyance with these spirits for me is what led me to asking them the questions I did which took me deeper into understanding about the Healing and the feminine being missed out, because of things annoying me that didn’t add up the Padgett Messages.), which brings perfect fulfilment and supreme happiness. My dear D___, did you know that Mr. Padgett began a serious relationship with another woman after his wife Helen's death, and that this relationship began after having received thousands of messages, among them also messages on soulmate love, and knowing that Helen was his soulmate, and despite the fact that he was in almost daily contact with her? Didn't that love, then, offer him fulfilment? Did he lack something? Obviously he did. I tell you this only, so that you may understand that even Mr. Padgett, during his mortal life, didn't understand soulmate love (me: I don’t think that he didn’t understand, it’s just that he wasn’t in a state himself to do anything about it - to feel it. I could imagine it’s all very well Helen saying such things to James, but if he wasn’t feeling good within himself, so what, and if what she did say made him override his bad feelings, then that’s not good. And as I’ve written elsewhere, I don’t believe Helen and James are soulmates, I think it was all part of the contrivance used to help keep James interested so the truths could be conveyed.)And I wish to repeat, this love has nothing to do with sexuality. Soulmates who both once were women or men, bear for you a certain flavour of homosexuality. But with that you are completely mistaken. And don't try to find your soulmates in this life, you wouldn't even be able to identify them. When you are in the fourth sphere or in an even higher place, you may worry about this topic (me: I don’t get what’s so special about this fourth sphere the spirit keeps referring to? Is that where this spirit comes from?). But for the time being, it doesn't have any relevance for you. That kind of love is only one of the countless marvels, which our Heavenly Father offers us for our happiness. There are thousands of different ways to find realization (me: No there aren’t, that’s something I would expect a mind spirit of the fourth world to say, not someone who has supposedly done his Healing having worked his way up through the Divine Love worlds and is now resident in the Celestial spheres. I think he means that as we’re all different we all come to the same truths in different ways, but the overall ‘Way’ is the same as we’re all ascending to Paradise, and first of all by following Mary and Jesus.), and we don't even have the possibility to enjoy all of them. Yes, our Father's generosity is infinite. And if somebody doesn't find, for any reason, their soulmates in the spirit world, they won't need to worry. Ultimately, they will not miss them. (me: I can’t believe he said that.)Also think that natural love is an attribute of the natural soul. That natural soul doesn't exist in the Celestial Heavens (sphere 8 and upwards), its last remains have already been transformed in the seventh sphere. But soulmate love may continue existing (me: So isn’t soulmate love Natural love?; or is it an intermediary between Natural love and Divine Love? - too difficult.). And only because it is a structural likeness between two souls, a likeness, which certainly will also disappear, when the definitive separation is unavoidable, and when each soul begins to develop not only in substance, but also in structure, in different ways and towards different destinies. (me: I don’t understand this last bit at all, has he suddenly jumped back to talking about soulmates before incarnation?)I understand that this topic awakes much curiosity, but I would like to dedicate more time to other subjects of much more importance, which may have an immediate application in your lives as mortals, and which are still abandoned like orphans. I hope I may have contributed a little to clarify this topic which is of little relevance. But I advise you to focus on those topics which really have weight in this world and may contribute to a greater development of your souls. With my love for all of you, who are on their way toward the Celestial Kingdom and strive for bringing Love into their personal environment, I will say good-bye, and will leave you my blessings. Your brother in Christ, Judas new-birth.net/contemporary/hr43.htmJudas of Kerioth – www.lulu.com(me: Having now read some of these contemporary Divine Love messages I’m left feeling disappointed, I was, perhaps wrongly, expecting more. I was hoping they’d give me more to think about helping me understand things better, but all I feel is confused and annoyed by the inconsistencies, and not understanding why they are not brought to light by the receiver.
The messages have also helped me get more in touch with my feelings of anger, jealously and hurt, that my parents favoured my brother in certain ways over me. And now having read this small sample of his writings I can’t see why they would see him as better than me - what was wrong with me? And I want to yell at them that I’m better than him, can’t they see that, look at his pathetic writing compared to mine, aren’t I good, aren’t I better, aren’t I more advanced in truth, all helping me to feel just how deprived of their love I feel and how sad and hurt their treatment of me makes me feel. How wounded I feel, feeling so utterly crushed by them that I don’t even have the anger I should have at them for treating me so badly.
And I can see that I’ve wanted to empower myself through my ‘messages’ to show that I’m not the useless person that they made me feel I am. And to give myself the ultimate power by saying: Well fuck you all, you’re not doing your Healing so you don’t have a clue; and my writing makes me feel so much better that I am truly advancing my soul and leaving them for dead because I don’t want to have anything more ever to do with them. Fuck you because you didn’t give a shit about me. Now you’ve got my truth to deal with, and for I care, you can stick if your arse. And I hope it causes you great pain as you slog your way through your Healing and all your stupid trying to avoid it and face the truth of your unlovingness by believing the Divine Love will transform your soul letting you off the hook for all the pain and suffering you’ve caused me - you can all go jump in the lake! I never want to read another one of these wonky messages - no, and you can’t make me! And what’s more, I hate feel like I’m a three-year-old kid still fighting against them still trying to say NO, still having to throw a tantrum to get anywhere in the world. So no more The GOLDEN LEAF or the DIVINE UNIVERSE, go away all of you, GET OUT OF MY SIGHT, which is exactly what my mother would scream at us when we got in her way.
Also this is the last of these messages I'm going to comment on... unless I change my mind...)
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Post by James on Jan 14, 2017 20:57:44 GMT 10
Hello J..., and thank you for asking your question and focusing on this bit of my work. It’s a part that has confounded me, and I realised this morning reading your email that I’ve not asked Jesus and Mary enough about this. And so now I will. It’s a subject that has been floating around in the back of my mind, I’ve paid a little attention to it, but now I feel ready to get to the bottom of it. So I will give it ago.
Jesus?
Yes James, I am here.
Thank you for answering my call. And I assume you are aware of what’s in my mind as to why I’ve called? You’ve told me how it’s not you in person speaking with these other people that claim to be speaking with you, and that you’ve appointed Celestial spirits to talk on your behalf, even pretending to be you, but still I feel there is more to it that I don’t understand. So would you please be so kind as to go over it again with me.
Certainly James, I’d love you. And first you understand that as you progress in your truth and corresponding mind levels, so Mary and I are able to reveal more to you, and in a way, ‘come closer to you’. Which is really the same for these other people. So because they are not doing their Healing as you and Marion are, so are not growing in truth, so we have to honour their desire to remain within their negative unloving mind structures and beliefs, which is why it’s not Mary and I speaking personally and directly with them. Because if it were, then we’d actually be interfering with their wrongness, something neither of us wish to do.
Okay, I understand that, I can relate to that, but what about people who are doing their Healing, does that mean everyone who is doing their Healing that wants to speak with you both, can?
No, because then a different set of parameters come into play. In theory the answer would be yes, and the more so as people or spirits Heal themselves as you and Marion are doing. However it becomes physically impossible for Mary and I to attend personally to everyone, and as you can imagine, everyone in Nebadon wants to meet us and have us be with them in one way or another. And so as you understand, this is where our Spirits of Truth come into play. They being ‘ourselves’ but more like the spirit of ourselves, who is able to be with everyone at the same time. And so when you truly embrace longing for the truth and looking for it through your feelings, you will have access to our Spirits of Truth. And so it’s then through our Spirits of Truth that people can think they are speaking directly with us. So in a way they are, but just not face to face. And the process is facilitated by a mind circuit of the Divine Minister in conjunction with the persons Indwelling Spirit. And so it can seem like Mary and I are actually there with you in person, or that we are speaking from afar to you, and everything inbetween depending on the needs of your soul.
Alright, that makes sense; so why doesn’t that then happen with people who are not doing their Healing. I know the answer but I’d like you to please give me yours.
Because such people are not wanting the truth, so our Spirits of Truth can’t properly, or - truly, interact with them, and so neither will their Indwelling Spirit participate in such an experience. And so because these people (and there are mind spirits as well who ‘channel’) want to speak directly with Mary or I, so we have established a Celestial band to oversee such proceedings, that which I’ve told you of, that which incorporates enabling such spirits to pretend to be us, all in keeping with the soul needs of the individuals concerned; which is about using us to further their untruth because they still want to evolve and progress in their untruth. And if they weren’t wanting to use Mary and I - the Truth - in this way, then we’d never dream of doing such a thing. However it’s become necessary because people and mind spirits want it, and we along with the Mother and Father, will do what we can, again within certain parameters, to further ones wrongness. And as strange as that might seem coming from myself, it’s true. And it’s what we’ve done all the way along, even by our coming to Earth knowing that our coming would create untold problems along with masses of new opportunities for people and mind spirits to evolve their evilness, that which you are all currently living under and within the results of. As you understand, Mary and I didn’t come to Earth or to James Padgett to completely end the Rebellion and Default in everyone, we only stopped the main Evil Spirits from interfering anymore. But as for our non-interventionist stance, so you can see for yourselves the result of that, with the advent of the Christian religions, all of which in subtle ways we even helped to facilitate, all so humanity could further ‘outwork’, as you say, their rebellion and default.
Yes I see, well that makes it clearer, thank you. I’ll think about it for a moment and see if there are any other holes I need plugging. So how does one of the Celestials who is pretending to be you, do so convincingly?
They have access to our Spirits of Truth, so it’s nothing for them to ‘tap into’ it and so ‘be us’. They can easily ‘be us’ adjusting to the needs of the person or spirit, and so much so, that the person or spirit will completely believe and think they are working personally with us. And it won’t be until they start to do their Healing and grow in truth that they will question oddities that would become apparent in the proceedings based on bad feelings that would come up for them, just as you have done, which would then, should they want to explore such bad feelings, lead them into questioning ‘Jesus’ and so the spirit pretending to be us. And if they where to continue with their Healing, the truth that would come to light through their feelings would in the end cause them to dispense with their ‘Jesus’ understanding it wasn’t all they thought it was, even then picking up on and connecting with the ‘new Jesus’ coming as a result of working with our Spirits of Truth.
So that’s what Al Fike and Nicholas would go through, something like that?
Yes. Which would be a humbling experience for them, and one would assume would also involve lots of bad feelings, all of which they could then use to truly advance themselves. So like everything you do that is wrong, once the light starts to be shone on it, all the bad feelings generated can then be put to good use to further advance your soul. So all that is bad in the end turns into being good, but still, to fully embrace those humiliating bad feelings and having to admit you were wrong, doesn’t feel very good, as you know yourself.
Yeah, terrible. God it’s all so embarrassing, and then having put it all out there and feeling like such a fool, stupid, such an idiot; however as you say Jesus, in the end it doesn’t really matter because we’re all the same, and it’s all just part of what we have to go through, and even though it might technically be wrong and not you yourself these people are speaking with, still some of what they say is good and helpful, it’s not all a waste of time.
Exactly James, which you understand within yourself the more you Heal and accept yourself, for so too are you able to accept and see the good in the bad of others, or see the good that will one day eventuate from the bad, which is how Mary and I look at it; which is how we are able to help humanity further its wrongness, knowing that when people come to do their Healing, all the bad will go leaving only good. With that good even having to come through or out of the bad for you all, because that’s how our Mother and Father have designed it for you. It is what They want, and so that’s what we all do.
So what you’re saying Jesus sure turns it all around, and is nothing like how we’ve been made to see it.
It can’t be James, for how can it be when it’s all wrong how you are. You can’t see the right being wrong, you can only see the wrong, so that’s why it’s vital that you stay focused on the wrong, as in all the bad feelings you feel, expressing them and seeking their truth. For as truth comes then you can see the right in the wrong, as you yourself change from being wrong to being right.
Alright Jesus, I’ll think more about it, thank you, but I think you’ve given me the picture I was looking for, now I get it. And it’s not that hard after all, quite obvious really once it’s been pointed out.
Like so many things James, which you can’t see because you’re not in a condition to see it. But when you are, then as you say, it seems obvious. But it’s getting into that condition, that’s the hard part.
Yes. Thank you again Jesus.
All the best James. And I will add before I go, although Mary and I have said we are not personally attending to people on Earth and in the mansion worlds, that we are only writing to you, that has changed too, as we will personally be with certain people for various reasons, however only a few. It was important for us to say that we were only going to be with you because of what you needed to go through, and at that time it was true, but as you no longer need that to be true, having moved on within yourself to other areas of importance, so we’ll modify what we said to you about that, as we did the other day saying we have been with Joseph, as we have with everyone who is now taking an interest in your work and seriously considering doing their Healing. It has been important and necessary for Mary and I to ‘add our light’ so to speak, to those people involved, just as we will continue to do so for some time yet. Things are beginning to significantly change on all levels to do with humanity, and so we through our light are a part of that.
And Jesus, that made me think, am I really speaking ‘face to face’ with you, or am I too merely utilising your Spirits of Truth?
What do you feel James? And you feel it’s face to face as you say, and it is, for as we’ve told you before, there is special circuit that links us with you and Marion, so Mary and I are constantly in tune with you, knowing what you are doing, feeling and thinking, and we can have direct access to your minds and feeling systems whenever we need. So although we are not actually standing face-to-face with you, we in spirit and you on Earth, and as we are in all different parts of Nebadon when we talk to you, it’s with this spirit-link, or what you might call a light-link, which is even more than that, a soul-link in a way, that keeps us personally connected as if we were right there with you. Anyway I can talk more about that with you if you like, but I’ll leave it there for now. Mary and I love you both very much, and through this ‘link’ or connection, we are ‘with you’ all the time. So until we speak like this again... Jesus.
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