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Post by James on Jun 14, 2014 18:10:12 GMT 10
I was browsing through the Divine Love Sanctuary Forum today, reading the latest posts and it made me feel so grateful to you Wesley, Samantha and Desire, for all you’ve contributed so far to my - our - DLS forum. When I read the stuff on the other Divine Love forum it’s all too much of the mind, too heavily weighted in the same old mind control, and I feel myself breathing a sigh of relief that you three are not like that, and are indeed doing something completely different in your spiritual growth. And spiritual growth that I feel and believe is real, not just working on further mental development that ends up getting nowhere. When you write you are free and true, not affected using all the usual mind contrived words that are meaningless but designed to sound important and impressive. You are true in how you are in the moment of your writing, and that is all one can ask for - and I love it. So thank you all very much, and I do hope it all continues to go well for you as our Mother and Father take you along the healing path They have mapped out for you. And it’s such a breath of fresh air to be with you, feeling free myself to express all I think and feel and without all the usual heaviness of restriction, compliance and having to fit in that accompanies being with most other people. And although I doubt we’ll meet during our flesh lives, I am certainly looking forward to meeting you in spirit.
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Post by wesley on Jun 15, 2014 4:28:13 GMT 10
I often take a peak at some dl forums also. I don't read any much anymore because of the solutions from the mind. I see some excerpts of trials and tribulations but right back to the mind control of all will be well. My wife and I also was going through the ascension post that you also provided. We both feel very interested in. One thing missing in the remedy section was soul healing as a remedy.
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Post by James on Jun 15, 2014 18:52:58 GMT 10
Yes Wes, I find it astounding, just incredible really that with all that has been revealed over time, nothing has been said outrightly about soul-healing with the Divine Love. And the fact that it’s all so well orchestrated by the Mother and Father and then Mary and Jesus and everyone in the ‘know’ in spirit; that revelation to humanity takes place step by step with each bit affecting humanity, and with humanity unable to progress in either a negative or positive way by itself and without such periodic infusions of truth revelation and information from higher spirits and angels.
And so here we are now, ‘making history’ as it were, by receiving the ‘next instalment’ of truth and information, all so we can take it on and make of it what we will. I do find it all very exciting, only the slow grind of my healing weighs so heavily, having to remind myself that our ‘slug’ of revelation is all about the hard work we have to do to heal ourselves, not just some easy truth like longing for the Divine Love. It’s come down to us - humanity, now having to face our pain and the truth that that is what we’re in for if we do really want to do something to help ourselves and free our soul.
However it’s all truly fascinating, and being given The Urantia Book and the Padgett Messages added to the Bible and all from the East and history, like one big jigsaw puzzle for us to put together all the relevant bits discarding all the wrong and untrue parts.
And to keep having to face the mastery of these higher spirits who’ve given us so much, but all in keeping with how we are, not saying much about the denial of the feminine because that’s how we are living, leaving us to discover that all for ourselves. It’s certainly a wonder, that’s for sure.
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Post by wesley on Aug 21, 2014 9:12:52 GMT 10
I read some of the messages on the dl forums and it's outstanding how everything being spoken about is Love. It is actually stressing love as the only key to changing the world and is actually happening while we speak. Just keep spreading the love then eventually the world will change. This was actually a major problem with me years ago. I couldn't possibly spread love with nothing inside me to show it. So I kept up with the perfect prayer, ignoring spreading the Love. Believing that once my soul was transformed then I could spread it. Then I would be open to what love is. But what is the definition of love. How will I know what it was when it came. So the trouble mounted. At that time love must be a highly exalted state. But why will I be presenting love when all around me will be people still in distress. And also people asking for the Love far more exceeding me at the time didn't seem to have the love also to spread other than small amounts of information. Pray,pray and pray some more. So on and on it seems to go. So what is Love? When love comes will the world understand it? This is the only message stress there so actually changes in the soul is change by love,good deeds and prayer. So the mind gets locked in so far from your soul unless some act wakes you up by some means unspeakable to me. Healing is the only way to prepare the soul for the Love is what became and is clear to me. That pain needs to be adressed.
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Post by James on Aug 21, 2014 21:53:00 GMT 10
The more I read the PM the more I appreciate how masterfully presented they are, they together with the UB. If you want to continue in your negative state of denying and keeping the truth of your soul from yourself, then as you say Wes: love, by somehow creating it, being more loving?, or contriving it, is the way to go. But as you ask: what is this love?
As we are living in an anti true love state, then the PM and UB don’t interfere with that, even helping us go into it more. Nothing is as it seems. And our difficulty is in thinking Jesus wouldn’t do that to us, he wouldn’t leg us over like that. He wouldn’t say here is the truth, all of which only serves to further our evilness. No he wouldn’t... or wouldn’t he?
And what if he did, knowing it was for our greater good. The Mother and Father have put us in our evil states, wanting us to fully experience them, and yet we also believe God loves us and so wouldn’t make us be evil, and wouldn’t keep us suffering... and yet why wouldn’t God?
So then we accuse the Devil, Satan has done it to us, he’s the evil one who’s led us astray and keeping us from the love of God and Jesus. Yet who created the Devil? And can the Devil do whatever he wants and God or Jesus is utterly powerless to stop him? That would make for a rather pathetic God.
So Jesus came with God’s blessing to reveal the truth of the Divine Love. And all the rest is then to help us understand more things but nothing to influence us, because God and Jesus leave it all up to us to work out for ourselves through our own feelings. But as our feelings are all corrupted, so our task is made all the more difficult.
But when you smell something’s fishy, like you did Wes, when it doesn’t add up to what you feel, when your life shows you that something is amiss and definitely out of place, then you are faced with having to take a stand, and so it would seem, against Jesus and God.
So you put your foot down saying this love thing is not what it seems. And now you understand about the need to do your healing. And now you’ve put your foot down in your family by not attending their get-together. Both huge steps, both you standing up and staying true to how you feel, and not doing what Jesus or your mum and dad or even God is telling you to do, you just doing what you feel like doing, all knowing it is part of you getting yourself out of your wrongness by accepting all your pain.
How the PM and UB have been structured makes it very difficult for people to take that stand and reject them, to still use the truths and information offered by them when they are in keeping with what you feel, but also to understand there is more - What our healing involves, and so they should be considered in that light. And for those people who can’t reject them and believe they must adhere to and uphold all they say, then they are not ready to stand up for their true selves that they are continuing to deny.
So they have to keep suppressing all those bad feelings that are trying to tell them something is not adding up, doing so by ‘being loving’. And we can’t make ourselves ‘be loving’ as that’s using our mind, we are either loving or we are not. And until we are living completely true we won’t be truly loving.
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Post by James on Aug 22, 2014 19:13:04 GMT 10
In our wrongness we can’t truly love. I can’t love Marion nor can she love me. And our unloving actions show us this truth all the time. And we want to be loved - naturally, we want someone to come and love us making us feel loved. But we’re not trying to be that person for each other. And we know such a person can’t come until we are fully true to ourselves - fully loving and accepting of ourselves, of ourselves in all our wrongness. And possibly we might end up being that person for each other, but in the meantime we try to be as true to our unlovingness as we can, expressing all our feelings of hate and anger and frustration with each other when we feel such things. And the further we go the more we understand how we can’t contrive love using our minds, it doesn’t work, we can feel it being false, and it doesn’t make us feel loved. So we have to keep letting go and accepting that we are unloving, being shown how in countless ways. In all the way we weren’t loved.
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Post by desire2bme on Aug 22, 2014 23:34:44 GMT 10
This is such a beautiful foundation stone...loving becomes a possibility if we are willing to see and feel ourselves in all of our wrongness. How much energy have I invested through the years of trying to live above my wrongness thinking it is the way...put away your anger and choose love. If putting away your anger means making room to come to terms with it living within me, giving it it's voice and safe passageway out that's one thing, but when I heard these words living within my religious legalism I could not even permit myself to commune with it. Put away meant do not give it the time of day.
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