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Post by James on May 26, 2014 15:28:45 GMT 10
I’m the only person in the world God hates.
It was a very hard and gruelling day yesterday. Marion felt so bad, feeling the full force of feeling hated by everyone including the Father. She said the Father loves everyone else other than me. He hates me. Mum and dad hated me, they never said one good thing to me, they never showed they liked me. And God has never showed He likes me, I pray and long for His love but He doesn’t make me feel all loved. I beg Him to make me be at-one with Him, I’ve been begging for so long, my whole life, ever since I was young going to church and hearing about how loving Jesus and God are; but nothing, nothing ever happens. Sure I get a few good things every now and again in my life, but my soul is still not healed, and I am in so much pain. I hate my life, I hate my body, I’ve always hated it and felt so out of sorts with it, as if it hates me too. It detests me and is always trying to make me feel bad, and sore, and nothing works right with it. And it’s all the Father’s doing, He’s the one controlling it all, He wants it and me to be this way, so He hates me, because if He didn’t, He’d show He loves me. And He’d make me feel all loved, and good, and everything would be good and I wouldn’t feel always so scared and terrified of the next bad thing happening to me. I’ve never felt safe and secure and happy like so many other people seem to, and I’ve never been able to get on in the world and have good, loving relationships with people. I’ve always felt so alone and unwanted - my parents always treating me like I was the worst thing that happened to them in their lives. They must be so happy in spirit now they’ve got rid of me. I feel so miserable, and so angry - WHY DOES IT HAVE TO BE THIS WAY FOR ME! God, are you listening: WHY DO YOU KEEP MAKING ME FEEL SO BAD - WHY! I’m sick of feeling so bad. I don’t want to live - I don’t want to exist. I hate everything, and I hate myself the most.
I think it’s good to always be on the lookout for such bad feelings to do with God because we all so desperately want to feel loved by God, as we’re longing for God’s Love and for God to love us, so we might be inclined not to focus as fully on our bad feelings to do with God (which of course is our projection onto God of our parents and families) should any come up. For as Marion shows being so ready to move wherever her feelings take her, even if such feelings seem so irrational to our minds.
Do you feel or have you felt at any time that God hates you? Have you hated God for making you suffer so much?
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Post by desire2bme on May 27, 2014 0:25:19 GMT 10
The word for me that I could not sit with last night was WAIT. I hate that word. I have lived it everyday of my life...waiting on others - God, parents, siblings, husband...before I can make new moves/begin my own life. But they have no idea I am waiting on them before I give myself full permission to live and move freely, making up my own mind about what's right for me. That's the gist of the feeling I get when I am stuck, running in place. I was groomed to follow orders and if and when I am not needed to get something done, to stay out of the way. A cog in the machine called a family. I wait for someone to push the right button or lever in my life hoping that it will be the final blow to take away this blasted feeling of being invisible.
My will has been smooshed, smashed, obliterated. I never had to use it growing up...the wills of those around me, whose ever will was the strongest at the moment, was what I would respond to. Their choice, their feeling state, would tell me where I would stand or if I should stay in the room with them. I was of very little use to anyone. My growth completely stunted, so I had nothing to offer. I lived on a dairy farm and I was afraid of cows. "Good God kid, what use are you! When the cows get out all I need you to do is stand there so they can not pass by you, JUST stand still! Can't you manage that simple task? I don't know what is the matter with you!" Fuck, I was just a little girl and these cows were all worked up being corralled and shouted at to get back in their penned up place. Good for them to get out and try to run away. All you do is use them for what you can make money out of and then you're done with them. I don't have any money making ability, so what use am I? Just get out of the way, you are of no use at all.
And I am still not making any money and what does my society (my "family") tell me I'm good for being this is the case? Nothing. Your job is to grow up, get a job...ANY JOB and WORK dammit! Your job is to be an efficient cog in the machine of this world and PUT OUT, PERFORM, FOLLOW ORDERS! It doesn't matter what you want, what you like, how you feel, or what you are capable of if you would follow your own heart. All that matters is for you to follow the instructions of those in this world who have the power and influence and control...just like it was back home as a child...JUST YEILD and SURRENDER your will, swallow your feelings and parrot the words that others tell you is the right way to think. I don't want to hear you talk. Stay submissive, you are weak and need us to give you direction.
And so I WAIT for who, what and why? It all is truly all so nebulous. Those who tell me not to act or say anything until I "know what I am doing." They are the same ones who never give me the chance to learn or practice anything to be able to know what I am doing! There's so much right here in me packed like sardines....emotions I can not yet feel or name, that are the root of why I have not allowed my own world, my own life a place for me to be. WAITING on my parents as a child and on my husband and on God as an adult...so many fears of getting burned, being yelled at for making a move and being in the way and not doing this or that right! No wonder I have chosen to just be invisible.
P.S. Thank you to Marion and James for getting this ball rolling, these words and feelings started out of me. I took your post, sat with it and used it like a baton in a relay race.
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Post by wesley on May 27, 2014 5:13:10 GMT 10
Yes enlist me in the hated group. Maybe I rushed in to this world and sense the pounding every single day. Get him they shouted! And how they crushed me and everything about me. Was I innocent coming onto this world just wanting to express myself. The rebellion spoke not here. My parents had a PERFECT plan. Destroy him. We control him and everything he does. I couldn't see what they were doing. Every year and day by day I was being slayed. Where would I be with out healing. Yes still being ripped and beat to very core of my being. Calling on Divine Love to increase my self denial. Running backwards as every Celestial calling on my deaf ears and I am not responding. I am so dumb and can't even read efficiently enough to understand a paragraph of instruction. I won't follow nothing anyhow. Nothing written that exhibits happiness is worthwhile. Only makes me anxious for another pitfall. Every morning of pain. How about it being in pain for 45 years and being none the wiser. I payed and still paying the price of being me. I never new I was sad. No I was only bored,tired and need the Father's Love. I'm a man needing our Mother. Still I'm in the hated group
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Post by James on May 27, 2014 11:46:16 GMT 10
As I read your posts desire2bme and Wes, I could feel the underlying intensity of your anger coming through - unless I was just projecting mine onto you, and I enjoyed that. I felt good that you are so angry for you should be, we all should be. And I felt even better that I didn’t feel scared of it, as I’ve been so scared of anyone being angry - my parents. It’s taken me years to get in touch with my own anger; you Desire say you want to cry, well I want to SCREAM AND SCREAM with the RAGE about all I was subjected to. And as I have got more in touch with my anger, allowing myself to be angry, so I’ve not been as scared of Marion when she’s angry. I’m not even as scared of myself being angry.
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Post by James on May 27, 2014 16:40:25 GMT 10
It’s all so mad.I love the Mother and Father, I long for Their Divine Love. I want nothing more than to be with Them. Yet I also hate Them, I am so angry with Them for subjecting me to all my shit, for keeping on making me feel so bad, for making me suffer so much. You fucking arsehole bastard shit fucks, why the fuck don’t you love me, why don’t you fix me! Why, why, WHY! I don’t want to feel bad anymore! I love Them and I hate Them. Then as I’m yelling and swearing my fury at Them for making me feel so bad, They keep telling me ‘Good, good James, keep going telling Us how much you hate Us.’ And that’s even more mad - everything is so mad. SCREAM. Screaming at my mother and father; Screaming at how much I hate them. Wes, have you seen this about math
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Post by wesley on May 28, 2014 16:31:40 GMT 10
Wow good research its very interesting. Maybe our Mother made sure I would have something to do
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Post by wesley on Jun 3, 2014 0:17:44 GMT 10
I often wonder about guardian angels being assigned to everyone. So what happened to my parents in that regard. They are using every path possible to stay in control of their man child. We are adults (so called but far from it). They again showed up unannounced to show us they can do as they please. Why can't I just tell them call first. Yep that just showed how hard it is to get out of the condition that I'm in. Guardian angels must not be able to get through to the ignorance that they portray. And why. Using us for Internet services. I can't bare their company. No caring words to save their lives. I guess they never had the pains that we suffer. Say anything and do anything is their path. Just spitting out children and letting them become depraved monsters. They would bang on the door until we answer. I hate that and them. Saying they are sorry for interrupting our day. But they will still do it. So I'm still dealing with these evil folks. Why were they my parents in the first place. Just had to express that today.
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Post by James on Jun 3, 2014 18:44:11 GMT 10
Wes, you said you ‘just’ had to express that today, why did you put it like that - just. What are you feeling that makes you write ‘just’. To me it sounds like you’re apologising for interrupting the forum by having to add your horrible bit about how angry you are at your parents. As far as I’m concerned, your post is exactly what I want the forum to allow people to do - to be able to vent all their rage and anger or other bad feelings if that’s what they are feeling, all whilst they are longing to uncover the truth of why they are feeling them. So go for it, get it off your chest, bring it all out. It’s all very important Wes - you are very important all that you feel and what to say. I’d be happy if you set up your own ‘Wesley thread’ and put all your bad feelings on it.
But having said my side of it, it’s more important for you to focus on why you said ‘just’, because it feels to me like it’s a dismissive gesture, you’re not taking yourself and your bad feelings seriously enough, or believe we don’t want to hear that sort of stuff. So can you write more about that - what you are feeling that makes you write just.
Also, can you focus more on why you can’t tell them to call you first, why you feel so powerless with anything to do with them. And how that makes you feel about yourself not being able to do it. I know I’ve asked you that before and you said some stuff, but it’s important each time it comes up that you try and go further with it. That’s the most important part of it all, for you to be able to speak about all those bad feelings every day until there is no more for you to speak about because you no longer feel bad about it. So whilst you can’t say no and they keep pressing your buttons making you feel angry - try and make sure you go with all those bad feelings as much as you can. So please write as much as you can if that is what you feel to do - if it helps you.
And a point about our guardian angels, they are there only to serve us (by doing doing what God wants for us), so if we wish to progress in our evilness, so they will help us go that way. Similarly, if we wish to progress in our healing, they will help us go that way. So our guardian angels will not go against us; for example, they are not going to suddenly wake up someone like your parents to the truth of how unloving and disrespectfully they treat you. They will only help your parents do that when they’ve first decided they want to find the truth of themselves through their feelings. And even then only in step with ones healing, never going ahead or pushing us.
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Post by wesley on Jun 10, 2014 0:41:16 GMT 10
I am conditioned to be a little good little boy who always listens to his parents. And my mom set that standard with me when she told my aunts about me speaking about girls. So if I tell them to stay away from me or somehow listen to me which I really don't want to talk to them at all then she will go to all the family members to be little me. So I am not important at all in their eyes which is a big thorn in my side. I hate their presence. Always saying anything they want to me. And I just stand in silence. So using the word just I am saying I'm not important. I'm a failure and not afraid to express that. Just walking through life waiting for it to change before I found the healing process. Why is my mind not giving up with all these insecure thoughts. My bad feelings of it all are intensifying. Burning all through this so called existence of me. Show me the door to the healing dimensions and leave out the beautiful hillsides so my mind won't take the advantage and claim peace. There is no peace until I'm healed. I'll take it as it comes slowly or painfully but get it done. I often say to our Mother. I want dissolve my relationship with my parents to total oblivion. Not knowing them at all. So here is my beginning always at the starting blocks of life. And also digging my on grave. Living here and hating it everyday. Not knowing my next move or even handling the day to day workings of this life. We don't know this world and going to the next is so scary.
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Post by desire2bme on Jun 10, 2014 3:51:28 GMT 10
Wes, your words here have been used to show me one of the ways that keeps me spinning into old self-denying patterns, actually taking me deeper into them when I am being offered opportunities to feel through the emotion of them. I will share an example of what I mean.
I have lived with this fear all of my life...do not have a memory of ever not having this: Of inviting others into my home. Before my mother died, I remember her saying to me, "You know, I don't know why I've not been comfortable to have anyone else but family (children, grandchildren) over to the house." She voiced the feeling we have always shared and it surprised me that she said it out loud. It's feels to me like something I took on in the womb, this deep fear. Well, recently, I had a friend of my husbands email me. This woman had worked with my husband when we lived in the same town together and she and her husband were going to be coming up for vacation around where we live now and wondered if we could get together. We had gotten together one other time as couples when we did live in the same city and went out to dinner and a concert and never felt enough connection at that time to spend more time together...at least that's how it played out, neither of us calling to go out again. So she emails and instantly I am flooded with emotions I still have no words for...it feels like I've been electrocuted am not able to talk or respond in any way.
"What's the matter with you? Why does this have to be such a big deal to you? Don't you know you have to be a friend to have a friend? It's time to face this fear here and now. Here's your opportunity and if you don't take it, to hell with all this talk that you say you want to grow and heal...it's all bullshit if you don't rise up and face this NOW!" So I was already feeling the overwhelming fear that surfaced with this event in my life knocking at my door and added onto that was my own haranguing...bludgeoning my own self for not being up to rising to this supposed occasion where I am to prove to someone that I am a hospitable gracious adult host always ready and willing to receive guests. I compounded the whammy into a double-whammy and was so disappointed with my lack of ability to perform the way I thought I should be able to that I was missing out on just using the event (no matter how I chose to use it) to feel deeply into this electrocution.
It's like what you were talking about with becoming a football player, feeling like you really did inside, yet forcing yourself to play the part you thought you HAD to. There you were in your feeling frozen state and saying to yourself, "Now get out there and play the game!" You have no option not to, so "Buck up and be what we need you to be!" As I read that I felt this again - the double whammy. We already feel completely wiped out and unable to move and instead of now just giving ourselves permission to allow present events to take us back into our repressed emotion and give ourselves time to feel them, we jab a knife into ourselves saying, "You should be an adult by now and be able to tell your parents to call before they come." or "What's your problem, you selfish bitch, can't you get over your fear and sit down to have a nice afternoon by inviting company over?"
I don't know if what I wrote makes any sense to your own process and how it goes, but your words of what you've been sharing lately are helping me to not place that expectation of making myself change my behavior into what I feel it SHOULD BE before I work through the repressed emotion of it. It is not my desire to live in this paralyzing fear when it comes to having others in my home, but it is my priority first to allow the times I still say no to these opportunities to feel through this pile of crap inside of me and not make a big deal out of what seems so easy for other people to do. Saying no right now instead of just over-riding the fear and white fisting my way through it is what I have made myself do most of my life. Sitting with the feeling of electrocution as I keep on asking for the truth is more than enough for me without putting myself under pressure to perform on top of it.
Wow...this truly is what I did as a child...all that gritting my teeth and baring what I thought I must when all the while I was completely feeling devastated and wiped out. To say, "I can't do this, it is too much for me right now" is not failing, but owning the truth. More can only open up for me from there...not when I am lying to myself in order to prove I am more of how a "real adult" acts by saying or doing the "right" thing.
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Post by wesley on Jun 10, 2014 5:27:46 GMT 10
Yes what you wrote does make plenty of sense. Thank you. That helps me to know your side also. How when I'm going through things like that there are similar circumstances. So many people wouldn't understand my feelings about that in my family concerning my parents. I would be the only ungrateful one in the family to want that request from my parents
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Post by James on Jun 10, 2014 20:14:45 GMT 10
It’s incredible just how difficult it is to honour feelings. You don’t want to do it - you FEEL you don’t want to do it. So you shouldn’t do it - of course. Oh but how hard is it to just be true to such feelings, when you’ve got all that other shit you’re talking about Desire and Wes. I’ve hated it all so much in myself, feeling no I don’t want to do it, but feeling like I’m a robot just automatically doing it because I’ve been programmed to. And then making up all sorts of justifications telling myself that it’s okay to do it - when it’s not. And telling myself that I’ll even benefit from it, when in fact all I’m getting out of it is slowly killing myself more and creating even more pain for myself by dishonouring my feelings.
But to at least now gradually become aware and accept that I can’t say no, and I can at least speak about how bad and pathetic I feel, accepting this ‘weakness’ in myself, is something loving I can do for myself, even if I still end up going against myself and doing the thing. And gradually as I’ve expressed such feelings and the truth has come about all the complexities involved, I’ve found I’m simply no longer in those situations so I don’t even have to say no.
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Post by desire2bme on Jun 11, 2014 1:48:04 GMT 10
Wes...reading some more of your words: "Conditioned to be a GOOD little boy who ALWAYS listens to his parents." "I would be the only UNGRATEFUL one in the family to want that request (the request of having parents call before coming over).
And James...your words: "And telling myself that I’ll even benefit from it (doing things that my feelings desire not to), when in fact all I’m getting out of it is slowly killing myself more and creating even more pain for myself by dishonoring my feelings."
So Wes, if you choose to honor your own feelings vs. staying obedient to your parents and doing what they say is "good for you" (ALWAYS listening to them) you'd have to feel how BAD and UNGRATEFUL of a little boy you are. What a fucking BIND with no way out we were put in...and so it HAS to feel this way as we work ourselves out of it...agonizing over what will happen to us when we honor ourselves and by doing so becoming OUTCASTS/very very BAD UNGRATEFUL boys and girls.
Scape-goats...it is what we have lived as, taking upon ourselves all that the previous generations chose not to work through. They didn't get to have a say so and follow their own feelings, but instead were what they call "unselfish" saying they are considering other's feelings before their own. Heavy, heavy, heavy, heavy SHIT - guilt and shame to the max - to us who are the ones to stop the million mile an hour generational shit freight train, standing in the middle of the tracks with our arm extended, hand in front of us saying "STOP! NO MORE! I don't care anymore how many pieces I will get chopped up and splatter into when I listen to what I need to do and honor myself! What will happen? What will they say? What will they do? Whatever it is, will help us continue to feel through what we feared would happen to us all these years if we do what we want/feel to do.
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Post by wesley on Jun 11, 2014 7:35:19 GMT 10
Yes Desire2bme your right. It is time to take on that feeling of the ungrateful one. How long have you been writing? Seems to me you can touch on many topics. Is it all a natural process for you? Or do you have any type of gifts to guide you? If you don't mind me asking?
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Post by desire2bme on Jun 11, 2014 23:26:22 GMT 10
Hi Wes, I've been writing more regularly for the past year, off and on for about 3 years. It is interesting to have watched the writings take on the flavors of the different spiritual paths I have tried on. I have never really been one to explore how spirits influence me, but I sense that there is an avenue through me as I have seen the changes in the topics and ways things come through depending upon what I give myself over to in my spiritual explorations.
There is a natural flow while I am writing and I don't know about a "guiding gift". Until you asked the question, I never pondered it, only have seen that is has been an avenue of expression for me to help out what I have pressed down. Also, what you are seeing within my writing isn't anything I can really grasp for myself, so when you make the comment about it being something that sticks out to you, I am not sure what you are picking up through it. I am guessing it is this way because I have never approached writing as an art or craft to refine or even see as a gift...it has been one of my only modes of self-expression that I have been able to count on, especially when there usually is no one for me to talk about what I am learning or feeling. So writing for me is "showing up" and digging deep into as much honesty as I can muster at the moment and I truly have no idea how much influence goes on in the spiritual planes. I am always asking for help in general as I do my childhood repression work.
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