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Post by Samantha McCabe on Feb 18, 2014 7:47:05 GMT 10
Hello Verna
I have just found your web site and read through it. It has been a wonderful introduction to know more about Nature Spirits and how we can connect with you, I will give it a go. I have grown to love nature much more through my healing after years of not seeing it being to wrapped up in my evilness. I now spend a lot of time in the woods as I feel a comfort there for me and I collect fallen wood and make Wands out of them. I have a philosophy that goes with them its all about using nature to show you how to be your true self and the wands I create are a symbol of that naturalness. I use the Tree a lot to make a point of telling others that our problems begin with the "Family Tree" us being an accumulation of what we have been taught to be by our parents and them by their parents and so it goes down the Family Tree. There's a lot more to it but I use nature to show the Truth of unconditional love, the Wands I create are a representation of Truth. I feel the Wands I create connect the people that buy them to a beginning of understanding the Feminine aspect of healing as I include in my information the fact that so many innocent women and men were killed and labelled witches for there healing abilities so all the feminine natural healing knowledge was brought to an end and women were even to scared to be women, repressed through the ages. I am so passionate about women and Men rediscovering their natural healing abilities and intuition, all through their feelings, being allowed to feel again and it is up to us to pass the healing on to our Sons and Daughters as Woman is the giver of life, we give birth to the men and women of the future. Nature has become a place of Truth for me Verna and I am looking forward to connecting with some of the Nature spirits. x
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Post by James on Feb 19, 2014 16:14:24 GMT 10
My dear girl, it is nice to hear from you, and so beautifully written, that you understand where your problems originate from and should want to do something that is truly loving for yourself.
I as yet aren’t in a position to tell you too much, these are early days for you Samantha, however as you are aware enough to listen to and follow your feelings, so the Mother and Father are guiding you through your soul, as you know.
When you are in the woods, when you are in your car, when you are at home, wherever you are, please understand that some of my kind are with you, and if not with you directly from our plane, then within ear-shot of you, for you have assigned to you - as will all people who set out to do their healing following what Mary and Jesus say - a band of ‘wee little people of light’. And you also have a band of Celestial spirits who dearly love you and have been with you all through your life and are always ready to give you a helping hand when required. A little thought there, a feeling-nudge there, a creative flash... you know the sort of thing.
And what you say about the Woman and her nurturing and healing power is correct, She is currently very lost, wandering around wondering what to make of Herself. The current state of woman’s liberation, whilst good for making men take a little more notice of women and themselves - their own feelings and reasons for doing things, still falls very short of the truly liberated women who will lead the world into and through the next age - all through their feelings.
Anyway, I am supposed to be serious for the moment, don’t ask me why, it’s something to do with what you and James both need in my communicating with you in this fashion, I of course having no idea at all what it’s all for - Ha! you can scoff James, he doesn’t believe me. And you know Samantha, this really is women’s business, so having to do it all through a man... ho hum... when will it ever end - don’t you tire of it? When are we girls going to kick off our shoes once and for all and really get stuck into this feeling caper. And you my dear are taking big steps, far bigger than you realise.
James will add to my post some exercises you might like to try to help you connect directly with your band. I can’t promise anything as to whether or not you’ll have any success should you want to try and make direct contact, and I’m not privy to such personal things anyway - there he goes again, scoffing, but it’s true... I have to plead the innocent one. Because you see, it’s like everything, some people can do things whilst other people can’t do them. But there’s no harm in trying now is there. So give it ago and see what happens, and please post your attempts if anything happens here and tell me if you have any concerns or problems or worries or fears, which also you can express and seek the truth of. And if you have any questions you’d like to ask me, please do - I’m open for business, that is so long as James wants to ‘make me available’ - HA!, now that has possible connotations to it - DON’T WE THINK LADIES!
So having made this little contact, I will go now, and please understand Samantha - You are not alone.
All my love, Verna.
Samantha, please also give me any feedback about what Verna says or how she comes across to you, as I’ve only written with her speaking to a couple of other people, so it’s new for me, and odd, it’s far easier for me to just speak with her about myself.
Concerning possibly having a go at making direct contact with your band of nature spirits and Celestial spirits - if that’s what you had in mind by saying you’re looking forward to connecting with them, as you probably know, there are lots of ways to speak with spirits. What I do is called by some people: ‘inspirational writing’, which means it’s all mental, as I don’t go into a trance or do automatic writing whereby they take my hands over and do the physical typing.
I’m going to post these exercises in a new section I’ll create on the forum - it might take a day or two as I sort out what I want to do. So I’ll post Verna now. She’s laughing at that, I have a image of myself trying to squeeze her through one of those red letter boxes in the street.
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Post by Samantha McCabe on Feb 20, 2014 18:29:27 GMT 10
What a wonderful and supportive message from Verna. Thank you so much. She came over very direct and true, and telling me that women still have no clear idea where they fit in, still wandering around lost is just how I feel them to be when we all think we have come so far which in some ways we have in comparison but doing it all in the wrong way with our minds and not through our feelings which is such a huge aspect of Woman. The feminine aspect of woman is still being so denied as we all try so hard to compete with Man, working so hard to prove ourselves and keep our heads above water when we don't need to force ourselves like that, we just have to use our God given gift of feelings to lead the way with and show Man how its done. Verna's message has made me even more confident to get really stuck in to my feelings, it is all so exciting. I ad a go last night at connecting with my band of Nature spirits and Celestials and was so pleasantly surprised as to what I received. I asked Mother and Father to bring forward any of my band that wanted to come forward at this time and waited a very short time and a very eager little Wood Pixie came forward. He was very Zesty and vibrant and his energy felt like the energy I feel when I get a instant creative idea comes to me. I asked for his name and it is Brunsby. How wonderful. Then I Had shown to me a African Warrior called Mazoobetoo, he was very serious and said he comes from the far West corner of Africa and that was all he wanted to say but an introduction was enough and lovely. Then cam in the most beautiful Water spirit called Krista, she was so chatty and has been with me to help me with my fears concerning water and all things of the emotional nature. She was so incredible and so tiny but so powerful, when I looked at her she danced across the top of the water constantly rippling like she was underwater. She said she tried to calm me when I was six and forgot I didn't have my arm bands on and jumped in the pool when I lived in Africa. I was swimming until I realised I hadn't got them on and then went into panic and went under, Krista said she was with me. She brought to me the memory of that fear so I am going to go really deep into that today and work on it as it is already bringing itself to the surface with me so it will flow easily and I feel it will bring up so much from that time, it will be interesting and very healing and Krista will be with me. It is all so amazing James, and so healing. I can feel Krista with me now, smiling and I will try some inspirational writing with her later. Thank you so much James and Verna, I tried this before but my mind was a constant interference but not this time, when I felt a change in my energy through my feelings I then received a visual in my mind and I feel my feelings lead the way this time and it all went so well. I will respond to your other responses in a short while James but all this has been so exciting and helped so much. Many thanks.
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Post by James on Feb 20, 2014 20:07:47 GMT 10
I’m flabbergasted Samantha, fantastic, I’m so pleased it worked so well for you. You know, I’ve spoken to many other people about such things, given them similar exercises, people who’ve wanted to see and speak with their guides, but no one has responded as well as you have. I haven’t done such things with other people for a while now, having given it all up to concentrate on myself with Marion - I don’t even do it for myself, being happy with the spirits I speak regularly with. But now with you coming and affirming everything as I think it should be - as I have wanted it to be, it’s so pleasing, making me feel like I don’t have to work as hard at it trying to help people understand it all as I thought I had to, because as you’re showing, people who are meant to get it, will, and I don’t have to worry about that. All those other people who didn’t get it, obviously weren’t meant to get it. I am sure heartened again by your response, even feeling more confident myself about it all. So thank you too.
And hearing what you say about women, you being a woman who’s out there in life, I think such things being said by a woman herself are far better than anything a man can say. “The feminine aspect of woman is still being so denied as we all try so hard to compete with Man, working so hard to prove ourselves and keep our heads above water when we don't need to force ourselves like that, we just have to use our God given gift of feelings to lead the way with and show Man how its done.” - great stuff! It gives me a buzz. I’d love you to write more about the feminine and women - how you see and understand it all. And I’m certainly looking forward to hearing about your experiences with your ‘new friends’.
It’s funny too you know, for so long I wished I could speak and relate to the nature spirits as it seems they’ve come to you. To be with the fairies, really to escape into their world. But with Verna’s help I worked through all that, having to let it go as it’s not for me, all which helped me to grow up and start facing the harsh realities of being an adult male who is fucked. So now having given it up, here you suddenly are, talking about them all like this, all their wonderful names and the exact characters and energy I imagined them and have read about them having. And in one way I feel envious, and: why not me, why can’t I have my little friends like that and be able to see and speak with them so easily! I have a large part of me that wished I was a girl, having such easy creative expression and being so psychic. But then again, having written that, no, I’m not envious actually, no, I’m just happy you’ve come along and give me things I enjoy reading - so I’m very happy for you. I do understand such things are not for me, but having lived in my fantasies all my life, a deep yearning for a world in which all is of nature including the nature spirits still maintains a dear place in my heart.
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Post by Sam McCabe on Mar 13, 2014 9:29:04 GMT 10
Hello James and Verna, I would like to ask about the truth behind Orbs. I went to Glastonbury and came home with orbs all around me, my friend said they are Elemental spirits but I am not sure, I see them in my photos a lot but don't want to get carried away, it could be dust or moisture. I will show you the photo.
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Post by James on Mar 13, 2014 10:47:34 GMT 10
Hello my dear Samantha,
The orbs are whatever you want to make of them. Have you asked Christa what they are and why they are sent to be with you?
I understand such supernatural things are very appealing, as indeed they are, however also as you understand it’s your feelings they are important - so, how does having such things about you make you feel? Are you wanting them to be something, and if so, why - and how does that make you feel? And what if they are nothing, how would that make you fee?
You see my dear, all sorts of strange things are going to happen around you, with you, and in your life to do with other people. And it’s not so much as to try and concern yourself with why such things are happening or what they mean, but to always keep staying focused on how they are making you feel and what your feelings are trying to help you see about yourself.
You have embraced your ascension of truth, so it’s always the truth - the truth about yourself from your feelings that must be kept dear to you and what you are really concern about. So concerned about yourself - what you feel - in anything and everything that happens to you and in your life. It’s to ‘see through’ what’s on the surface, to see with your feelings, but not to do anything to ‘try and see’ but just to keep attuned to what you are feeling, express them when you can, and always long for the truth the Mother and Father want you to see.
Strangenesses are in the air. All sorts of weird and odd things are going to happen. Things will on the one hand seem normal and ordinary, yet on the other very extraordinary and unreal. And through all this the wise woman must walk, looking nought at such things about her, not being distracted by the illusion they present, but accepting all that is, all whilst always attending to her feelings. Your feelings are your real children and they must be nurtured and looked after, all so they can be as free as a child should be free. And in doing so, so too are you my child, free to be the loving child of your Heavenly Parents. Allow your feelings to be like these little orbs, free to come and be within you.
You have embraced your feelings lovingly Samantha, and now you are starting out on the journey of awakening the love of and for yourself through them. There is far more to your feelings than you understand, and all that understanding needs to one day be liberated. Mankind lives in an all but feeling dead and devoid of feeling way - of true feelings. The feelings you are all used to and express are so heavily conditioned and controlled by your mind. So the more you can nurture your feelings by giving them the full respect they deserve, then you’ll know what it’s all about.
It’s your feelings that will guide you to Paradise. And Paradise will become all that your feelings are.
Take care of yourself my little one, take care of all those feelings, of even the bad ones for they are of themselves in their own way, still loveable.
All my love to you Samantha, Verna.
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Post by James on Mar 13, 2014 13:23:54 GMT 10
Verna said: ‘...take care of all those feelings, of even the bad ones for they are of themselves in their own way, still loveable.’
That made me think about my relationship with my bad feelings. I’ve worked on this over the years, but now I can see that I believe my bad feelings are not actually mine but someone else’s and they are being forced into me. Like evil little demons or bad spirits, something that’s coming from even the dreamtime into me and causing me all sorts of problems - making me feel bad. And so I fear them. I dread them, I dread feeling bad again because it will mean I’m getting into trouble and being punished again.
I think it’s also more to do with my controllers making me feel bad and then punishing me for expressing those bad feelings. So I feel like in a way it’s got nothing to do with me, I’m over there somewhat removed and should not be feeling bad, so I’m scared of feeling bad because as it means I’m being punished again, or about to be, so I’m being brought into their line of fire. The spot-light is shining on me and that’s the sort of attention from them I don’t want.
Marion just accepts her bad feelings as being part of her. They’ve always been there. However because I’ve blocked mine out so much I’ve pretended I don’t feel bad, so I don’t know what they are, some invader that I need to get rid of as quickly as I can.
So although feeling bad doesn’t of course make us feel loved or have any love for them, unless we’ve got other serious problems, the whole point of them being that they are made to make us feel bad because we feel unloved; still, I can see what Verna means by respecting them, and understand that as they are a part of us, were we completely able to love ourselves, so all our feelings, we could still love them as every part of us is special.
I’m currently working on accepting them more as being just a natural part of me, and not something that’s intruding from outside of me and imposing its will on mine, and something I have to fight and resist always battling to throw off its unwanted control.
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Post by Sam McCabe on Mar 13, 2014 20:35:07 GMT 10
Thank you both so much for this reply. You are right Verna, the Orbs were very appealing to me and made me feel special and then I felt bad for feelings special like it was all my mind, ego stuff. It showed me my need to be seen, noticed and accepted like I was something so special as I should have felt as a child, it showed me the feelings I needed to feel from my parents as a child but was for the best part ignored and made to feel bad when and if I felt brave enough to express my self or go against another's opinion, if I spoke my truth I would feel so guilty because I felt I had hurt them like I felt hurt when I was ignored or not taken seriously with my opinion so I just gave in and submitted. I didn't want to go against anyone else's opinion because I couldn't bare not being loved so I would agree even when I didn't agree, all so they would still love me and they would still feel like gods and me the subservient child needing their love so I wouldn't upset them in any way. It is all so evil and unloving, them to me and me to me. All such things as Orbs taking me further away from my truth, my feelings, looking outside myself when I know all the answers are within me. I understand what my True Mother and Father want me to see from this and see the minds illusions and how others can take me away from my truth, it didn't feel right to listen to others as that is denying myself, my feelings being the only place I need to go to find the truth. Others want to impress their illusions onto me to keep me at the same level of illusion as them, they are not wanting me to grow in truth and that is why I have no one left around me only Trevor has remained true. I now see the false teachers around me and places like Glastonbury, the heart centre of the world, feel very false to me now, so called spiritual people healing others when they are all so sick themselves, leading others away from themselves to believe they need another to heal them, no one is showing them the true way only leading them to more initiations in this or that spirituality. We need go no where outside of ourselves, there is not a place more sacred than ourselves that we need to visit to connect to God. When I find the truth of my feelings I am connecting to God, they are giving me all I need to find my truth, so incredible. I feel that our physical parents have been put in our way to block our way to knowing our True Mother and Father God, like a tall brick wall that you cant see over or around to get to them, the brick wall being our feelings numbed completely so we have no communication with our truth, will or God, only theirs. They have done such a good job on us all no one even considering to ask questions about why the wall is even there and what is beyond it. Our parents wouldn't even be able to answer us, them having no idea either, we are all sad, lost children.
I have had so much coming up in the way of bad feelings and last week I was feeling overwhelmed with old panic issues arising and felt myself just wanting to run, the old fight or flight kicked in and to override that feeling is so tough almost impossible but I asked Mother and Father to show me what I needed to see from the terror and I begun to calm down to a level where I could begin to come away from the mind and into the feelings and talk it all through with God, I knew this was my time and my Mother and Father wanted to work through this with me, it was so hard, my mind was in total terror and to accept how I was feeling and remember to do this with all the confusing mind stuff going on. It took all evening of talking and writing but it had to all come out of me, my soul wanted it kicked out and it happened, it was probably the first time I had dug so deep until I was exhausted and empty but I got to the gold of feeling so unsafe, so unsafe I could die, I would not exist all how I was made to feel as a child just through not being noticed or loved as I needed to be, I felt I did not exist to the very people I loved so I have carried this on never feeling safe or noticed in relationships or life, there was so much writing It would take pages to go through it all. But I really experienced the truth of the panic and I felt I had touched paradise that night. Before I went to sleep I asked God to fill me with Divine Love to replace all the poison I had emptied out of me that night. The best thing is I felt a true communication with my True Mother and Father, I felt them giving me what I needed to heal to empty out of my soul so I could be that little bit purer. I ask them all the time to show me the truth through my feelings and they do, no matter how awful I know it is to empty out my soul of all my pain and repressed experiences and feelings. I accept all my feelings good and bad and really terrifying as the communication I need from my Mother and Father so to heal myself through those feelings, they have to come out and there is only one way, to feel them and ask for the truth to be shown and it always is. I am truly amazed, I feel I am having a personal relationship with My True Parents being shown the way to them through Mary and Jesus.
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Post by James on Mar 14, 2014 12:26:30 GMT 10
Very good my dear, I thought you’d understand what I was saying.
James is very pleased indeed because I impressed upon him that which I was hoping you’d understand as we wrote to you, and so by his reading your reply he can see that you got it; and not only that, but went with it, allowing yourself to go even further and deeper into your feelings of feeling so unloved.
Yes, all very good, because that is what it will be for you Samantha. For some people they will be wholly focused on revealing the truth of not only themselves, but of it all, for they will be guided and helped from ‘above’ to be what one might call ‘Leading Lights of Truth’. And to such leading lights one could imagine little moths gathering, longing to learn and take such truth and apply it to their lives, all so they in turn will be able to go out and look into those aspects of life that captivate them.
So yes, you can leave the orbs to others to ponder about, and as James is interested in this too, such things as it is said Glastonbury being the heart centre, for as you can feel in your heart, so what, and what does it do for anyone anyway even if such things are true. It doesn’t help one look further and deeper into oneself through ones feelings, so you can let it go and leave such things to others.
All such things are of the mind, and certainly such information when the time is right will be made known to those people who are to know it, however it will be only to those people who have chosen to live true to themselves through their feelings and are well on the way in their healing. So don’t concern yourself with such things, ask Christa or the Mother and Father should you need confirmation, but keep yourself always only concerned with yourself - with what you are feeling in it all.
And yes, the whole physical world is etherically divided up just as is the physical body, the ley lines being the pathways of light coming from spirit that are needed to keep the physical going. And just as is with your body there are main nodal points, energy intersections of light - chakras, large and small and all inbetween. And certainly certain points on the planet are major charkas, however as to whether or not one can ‘access’ such light at such centres is entirely another matter. And the mind spirits and all those people who are ‘in league’ with them, believe of course they can tap into it and do all sorts of things with it, however that is only because they are allowed to do such things to a limited degree all so as to further their ego’s and negative state. In time, it being the next spiritual age, certain people - and they will be people who have fully healed themselves through their feeling acceptance - will be guided to have more intensive and direct connection with such light centres; however in the meantime, people need to work to heal themselves first, and leave all those who want to delude themselves that they are ‘working with the elemental forces’, to it.
And what about places like Findhorn - James is asking me. Such places have been made available to various people just to help ‘keep humanity in touch with the unseen world of the nature spirits’, to show you that there are indeed things beyond your ken. However as you understand, even though such places are very impressive to those interested in the supernatural, they are all still only given to help you further your evilness and to indulge yourselves in your mental aspirations and fantasies.
In time, as I said, after ‘The Great Change’, so during the next age, certain healed people will work very closely with the nature spirits, and for the good and positive and love of themselves, each other, nature and the whole environment. But that is not for now, now is still under the jurisdiction of Mary’s and Jesus’ age, so it’s all about progressing in your evilness denying them - denying their truth... that is of course, unless one is like yourself my dear, who is wholly intent on healing your evilness and ending your rebellious ways.
So with all my blessings - ha!, I love being able to say that... so with a glass of dandelion wine we can share together... Keep your head down and Keep up the good work! Oh dear it’s such fun ‘being a patronising human’.
Love Verna!
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Post by Sam McCabe on Mar 14, 2014 19:16:34 GMT 10
Thank you both so much, it all feels so clear to me now. I had a night of writing last night as this conversation brought it all to a stand still for me. In the afternoon I had a terrible feeling like I couldn't get into my feelings, I couldn't get to my truth and I couldn't go to sleep until I had broke through this awful feeling, the orbs had brought so much up within me and I was looking back at all the ways in the past I had been taken away from my core. There was to much, I was suddenly surrounded by a wall of all my past decoys, I couldn't break through it and felt so confused, angry, stuck. The Orb conversations had triggered and brought so many illusions that I thought I had healed but not, things I had been lead to believe in with my mind and ego all the time ignoring my feelings, I felt so locked in with these illusions like they surrounded me until I had seen them, even in my dreams, still coming, it was relentless. I felt like I had really let myself down as I was seeing just how much rubbish I had believed but still amazed at just how much was coming up from my hidden depths. There was to much, I shut off and all I could feel was a wall around me and I couldn't get through it, it was a wall of lies and illusion with me in the middle just wanting it to all go away but it was closing in so all I could do was accept it all and express how I felt and ask Mother and Father for the truth to be shown to me, I was exhausted but I began writing. Help me Mother and Father connect to my feelings, help me accept all that is showing itself to me even though it is to much, Help me go from mind to feeling to break this wall down. Then feelings began to come and very strong, I felt so angry with myself for not connecting that I couldn't even connect with Christa, my mind was jam packed with my past illusions all at once it felt, the confusion was crippling and very numbing.
"I feel so blocked, so confused, I am buzzing with confusion. and I cant get through to my feelings, I am so angry I cant connect to how I feel, I am surrounded by mind illusions that want my attention. Please help me Mother and Father, I am desperate to know the truth of my feelings and I long for your Divine Love, please, please, please show me the way to my truth. Mary and Jesus please comfort me as I go through this awful time." I was being blocked off from my feelings by these illusions within me that I could only sit with and work through, I began to feel comforted and calmer and then it came.
All these past beliefs and illusions were all things outside of myself, like the Orbs, all keeping my away from my truth, my core feelings, all out there somewhere. All that I believed in that was outside of myself was a decoy to keep me from my feelings like something evil leading me astray when I got to close to my gold, how clever to distract me in that way, I can see it all now, what a game. All these things forming a wall around me in the desperate attempt to keep me out of and away from my feelings, the wall not allowing me to get to my truth just as my parents, sisters, brothers, teachers and relationships did all decoys and distractions to keep me from me. These people that say they love me couldn't bear to let me feel, they all took that away from me so I never knew my truth. I am so angry right now. I have to do all this gruelling healing work because I was kept from my feelings, my truth so that I can undo all of their crap that they have put onto me. I am now having to dismantle a wall of illusion all because I didn't know my truth but believed and lived other peoples truth to keep them loving me so they could feel so good, where was I in all this? Why couldn't they have just let me feel bad when I felt bad instead of trying to make me feel good. Even when Harry died, they all flocked around me to take the pain away and I was having so much trouble feeling anyway, they all said that I never let them in, even as a kid I would never let anyone help me, because I just wanted to feel the pain, it was mine to feel and I wanted to get to it but was never aloud. As a kid they always wanted to cover it all up and make things good again just because if they let me feel it might bring up their own pain that they so desperately worked at staying away from. My Mum and Dad both always said to me you always push us away and now it is so clear why, I didn't want them interfering in my needing to feel pain, I wanted to go there but was never aloud to, I pushed them away because I didn't want their help until I asked for it. I wanted to feel how feeling feels and they couldn't even let me do that on my own, they took my feelings, they set up decoys to distract me so that I would always want a decoy to take me away from feeling bad, I was robbed of my feelings so robbed of my truth, robbed of my soul and robbed of God they all kept me away from reaching My true Mother and Father God, those that say they love you are a decoy to keep you from God, its all so clever.
Such a great breakthrough James and Verna, to dismantle that wall felt good and there are so many more distractions coming to light and I will see the truth of them too, I am seeing all the players in my game for what they were put there for and all the things I believed in with my mind were put in my way for me to see the truth of, its really incredible I see so clearly and feel so good that I have worked through so much, it all just flowed and came up for me to reveal the truth. Everything and anything every minute of the day if for me to feel and heal, it all feels so miraculous. I feel happy Verna and James, I feel clear for a little while.
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Post by James on Mar 15, 2014 13:06:03 GMT 10
What another wonderful experience. I love reading how it all happens for you Samantha.
And I’m pleased what Verna said helps, it’s giving me more confidence in not worrying about what effect it might have on another person, just writing and see what happens.
And what you said, being bound up by your illusions and all the decoys, I very much relate to, as this week I’ve been getting more in touch with how every word and sentence spoken to me by my ‘carers’ has gone into me, the energy of it, and has formed real bonds in the form of my beliefs, all of which I’m so tightly bound up in. I just wish I could exorcise myself from them - which is happening as I express all the pain and bad feelings that come up, but push them back over the fence onto their side, giving all their unloving words back to them. Because nothing they said was loving, they weren’t in loving states to express such love and its truth with loving words - or with the energy behind such words, for of course it’s not actually the literal words themselves that have hurt me, but their underlying intention.
I’ve been feeling how I was bound into the mind side things, totally cut off from my feelings, and my healing is breaking down my beliefs and resulting unloving behaviour. I feel like I’m literally peeling off each entrapment, breaking the mental belief and then liberating the repressed energy in the form of all the suppressed bad feelings. I’ve been undergoing what I call ‘hurks’, violent throwing up - like vomiting by not doing it physically - all this pent up and repressed energy - all my anger, fear and misery. Marion doesn’t do such things as hurking, but she’s also not bound up in her mental state being able to allow her feelings to flow more freely.
I loved the sincerity and the real pleading of your prayer; when you feel that determined and that intense it’s such a good feeling (even though you feel so rotten), and you know something has to give. It’s the point of desperation that we so often have to get to, where we can’t go on as we are, and we’re not going to, when we feel that’s enough, the end, and I don’t want to be this way anymore! And to see how it all followed on for you, that was really good.
And isn’t it remarkable how it works, in this case with you and these Orbs - who would have known? And yet most people having such an unusual experience would have relished it with their minds (I certainly would have) taking it onto all sorts of ego levels feeling they are special and it’s a sign of their magical powers and so on. And yet for you to be brave enough to go against all of that and to look to your feelings instead, which have allowed you to see all of this, it’s just perfect, and how can you explain such things to other people, that this is what doing your healing entails? Marion has so often turned what I have wanted to be a good thing using my mind, back on me, and I’ve fought her and wrestled with it, but in the end when I’ve finally given up, then I’ve connected with the true underlying feelings I was avoiding, and once I’ve expressed them, then I’ve come around to see it the same way she saw it.
I do feel very excited by all you say, there is so much in each post, they being full of luscious truth, all of which I love more by the day.
And thank you for going to the trouble of writing so much and posting it on the forum.
Yesterday I was thinking about what I wanted to say to you concerning your post the day before, and then when I sat down to write suddenly Verna was pressing me to write what she wanted to say, hence her next post that followed. And that was a delightful feeling as I had no intention of writing with her, it simply hadn’t occurred to me that she might want to reply. So now I will ask her if she wants to add anything as she’s not currently pressing me - she probably knows I’ve finally got the message.
Verna: Too right I know and it’s about bloody time! The dear girl wants to speak to me, not you, you stupid idiot. So you have to butt out of it and let me do all the talking - and doesn’t that sound like someone familiar to you James?
Oh yes Verna, it does, but please, I’m sick of hearing mum and Gran’s voices in mind, I wish I could end it all and they would just go and leave me alone once and for all.
They won’t until you’ve brought it all to light within you James, and we will take every opportunity to help you. Now, back to business. Samantha, well done, that was all perfect and you succeeded in breaking through a huge barrier within you. Things will change somewhat now as you move toward the next one, but as you know, it’s one step at a time. And things will keep coming up, things you’ve thought you might have dealt with, but this too is what’s meant to happen, as it’s all interconnected within you. However, even though the things might appear to be the same, they will be slightly different, even your experience of them, because you yourself will be different every time the cycle comes around again.
And things like those Orbs, there are masses of such things we little people of light can do around you and for you, all that can have certain effects, which should one want to advance ones negative mind state, will help one to do so, and should one want to go deeper into their repressed feelings looking for their truth, will help one to do that. Nothing people think is right is right, it’s all wrong - it all should be the other way around. All you are doing, all how you are living, is false. And I know this might be hard to understand in real life, however it’s true. And the further you progress in your healing the more you’ll be able to relate to such truth and see through the illusions and all those annoying decoys.
And you’re a very good girl for wanting to fully own your feelings, they are yours, they are NOT TO BE UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE interfered with my anyone else. THEY ARE YOU, and to have them taken from you or to make you stop feeling them, you could even liken it to the violation of rape. YOU MUST NOT BE INTERFERED WITH BY ANYONE ELSE, and it begins and ends with your feelings. Your mind can be forced to add and subtract beliefs, but that’s not the same as being made to stop feeling your feelings. To stop feeling your feelings and to stop fully honouring and respecting and accepting them is akin to being made to stop breathing, with the same bad feelings resulting. Your essence - your personality and its expression - YOU - are being threatened with extinction, annihilation, and that MUST never happen, and especially to a young baby and child - NEVER! And as you are still that young baby and child, so such dismissal of even the slightest feeling and in the slightest way MUST NOT BE TOLERATED! DO YOU HEAR ME! And it’s for you to stand up for yourself, for your FEELING RIGHTS, and demand that your feelings be fully accepted by everyone else! And you have all rights by God to do so, and in doing so you will never sin, never be making an error - you will be living true!
There, now, how does that all sound? It sure sounds good to me!
Well, as long as it sounds good to you Verna, that’s all that matters.
TOO BLOODY RIGHT JAMES. I TELL YOU, I’LL BLOODY WELL STAND UP FOR MY FEELING RIGHTS, AND I’M NOT EVEN ONE OF YOU LOT! We’ll speak again soon Samantha - love Verna. I’m going off now to leave you lot to think about my GREAT WORDS OF WISDOM.
We love all you say Verna, and there’s always so much to it, always more between the lines - thank you for all you’ve said and done for us.
It’s my pleasure James - truly, it is.
And with a flick of her long dark hair and a graceful sudden turn on her heels, she is off... (She made me write that too, honest she did. You know Samantha, between you and I, I think Verna has a serious touch of the Dollywood complex.)
Have not!
And that’s the trouble with their lot, they are always listening in.
Are not!
And they’ve always got to have the last word.
SURE DO!
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Post by Sam McCabe on Mar 17, 2014 17:56:31 GMT 10
Incredible words of wisdom from you both and such great support when on some days it is just so gruelling. All of this communication opens up and reveals more within me, I feel something new every time I read what has been written. James and Verna Thank you very much and speak soon.
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Post by samantha9 on Aug 29, 2014 17:50:09 GMT 10
Hello Verna, its been a while. I want to ask you about animals and how they are spiritually different to us. Do they have a soul? How are they different to us and what makes us the greatest of all of Gods Handiworks as the Prayer says. I read a lot of people say that animals have souls and we are all equal including animals but I feel that how can we be when humans were indwelt with a thought adjuster and a opportunity to be at one with God. I need to understand the difference between us and animals, all being Gods creatures but us being the Greatest of all Gods handiworks. I have found that since I have been healing through my feelings I have had a different relationship with animals and they do not fear me as much, especially since I have become Vegan, they don't fear that I will eat them I think. Even Bee's and wasps come really close but I am not afraid of them any more, they can even land on me and not hurt me because I will not hurt them but love them even if they do sting me, I know they have stung me to bring me a message to reveal a pain within me so I see it as such an important thing they have given me. I was working at my granary two days ago and came face to face with a deer, what a beautiful experience for me, I cried and flooded with amazement and love and thought this is how a tiny bit of Gods love feels, so I thanked the deer for bringing me that feeling, it was incredible verna. I look forward to hearing from you Verna, I love your vibrant energy.
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Post by James on Aug 29, 2014 22:29:45 GMT 10
So good to hear from you again my little one Samantha. And what a pleasure it is to answer your questions, and that you should come to ME - for my great wisdom I presume!
And so to your first question about animals having souls, no they don’t, as you intuitively feel. Animals are a lower mind creation than ourselves - we nature spirits, who are on the ‘bottom’ end the angelic order of things. You humans are truth creations. Animals and all living creatures and life on Earth partakes of the natural life spirit provided by the Divine Minister which sustains all of us in Nebadon. The natural ‘light’, or simply, natural love, is what they are created with and we ‘tend’ to them, in that we see to it that they are as they should be. The creatures experience life more simply than you do, they are merely to be part of your experience and for you to understand more about natural love through them - its truth, beauty and goodness as the Urantia Book explains to you. You being Ascending sons and daughters of God are called the ‘greatest handiworks’ because in many ways you are the most like the Mother and Father in all creation. The most like the whole Paradise Trinity. You are ascending in truth through experience to become as God is in many ways, this being the long term plan for you. So it could even be said that in many ways you will in time, albeit a very long time, be like mini gods to some degree. Your soul incarnates on Earth using it as your starting point in Creation. It is your ‘home world’ or more precisely, your ‘birth world’, but that is all. Your real home is Paradise, which is where you are all headed, especially when you’ve finished your healing. Once you ‘attain Paradise’ then you will know why it is your true home, Earth being a long distant memory. Your real life in Creation, as in what you could call, your adult life, begins once you’ve attained Paradise. Up until then you are still a child of God growing in love and truth through the experience of your feelings as you ascend the circuits - heavens - to Paradise. Animals once they have lived their term of flesh move into what becomes a collective spirit, from which is drawn forth those of our kind. So those nature spirits that are ‘home grown’ have come from this collective animal spirit. This spirit collective is continually growing, so periodically it means more of my kind can be ‘initiated’ or simply, brought into being. And when we have lived our terms as decreed by the level of life experience required, we are ‘upgraded’, to use some of your jargon, into lower angels. That is most of my kind are, others of us - the select few, having served on higher more exalted levels, become higher angels skipping the lesser part - if you get my drift.
And my dear, all the creatures are going to come to you with love as you love them, that is the way of love. As you continue to love yourself through your healing, so you will see outward signs as you are reflecting this, with nature being used to help you have the good feelings you require.
And let me tell you this my dear darling, something James has not been told about, but humanity has a very specific part of its personality, a whole feeling and mind circuit that is specifically concerned with the relationship between man and creature. This part of the personality has been rendered inactive since the rebellion, but it is due to be reactivated with the commencement of the new spiritual age, but will only be accessed by those people who have healed themselves as you my dear are working towards. So humanity has no idea as to how it is meant to relate to animals and how it can and will once it is living true to itself and so fully self-loving and so fully loving of all. So that is something you can look forward to. It is something which will be very special, but still it’s something that you all should naturally be enjoying were you all living in a positive mind and will state.
So don’t concern yourself with what other people say, your feelings will lead and guide you Samantha, as these other people are not striving to live true, they are not doing their healing so will not feel and understand and relate to things as you do. And so as you move further away from them, further into the ‘new world’, there you will find the answers to all you long to know.
And I can also tell you, the more you are open to it, and you don’t have to do anything to be open to it, just accepting of all your feel, the more nature will be used to help you grow in truth through your feelings, helping you feel both good and bad feelings. You can’t avoid nature, you are of it whilst of flesh, it is part of you as you are part of it, your personal relationship with it is something you should rightly have inherited from your ancient ancestors, but alas so much as been lost. And as you grow in truth so too will nature respond in kind, it is ‘higher’ than you in its truth of natural love, you are aspiring to live true to yourself as it lives true to itself (but not as it lives) having fallen below it because of your rebellion. And when you look at nature, at the deer or the bee or the wasp, remember you are looking at yourself, the truth of the natural love that you are; the truth of the natural love that your soul is; the truth of natural love that you are becoming as you progress in your healing. And with those wise words - oh how I do love playing the role of the Wise One and Knower of All, I will bit you adieu. And as you include us in your thoughts when in nature, we’ll be there with you. Speak to you soon, all my love to you Samantha - Verna.I’m going to ask Verna more about the special link between us and nature. Today I had another wonderful nature experience. Almost very day lately on my walk I see something extra special. The other day I discovered some small native fish in a small creek that flows into the sea. I went back today hoping to see them again. I went to a different part of the creek, there being quite a steep wallaby track leading down to it from the path. The wallaby track resumed on the other side of the creek going up very steeply, I doubt I’d be able to climb up it. The wallaby’s must come down that steep side jump the one and half metre creek and up the other - I’d love to see them do that. Anyway I was standing by the side of the creek trying to become a tree waiting to see if any fish surfaced once I blended in with the surroundings. No fish, but something moved catching my attention just over the other side of the creek at my head height. I looked up and there was a little Pardalote, such a spectacularly pretty little bird, and one that’s not shy. It was one of my bird dreams come true upon arriving on the Island and realising that ‘Pardys’ as Marion and I call them, are common, and so much so, that most days they are in the gum trees right at the corner of our house. There’s one with it’s branches hanging low to the ground and often I stand in the leaves and the Pardy’s come so close almost to my nose checking me out as they attack the lerps on the eucalypt leaves. So there was a Pardy sitting on a stick that was jutting out from the opposite bank, but why was he there. It’s not a food place for them, and he was looking around, concerned, but not about me. Then it dawned on me, they breed in the side of river and creek banks, they dig quite long tunnels into the earth. So I looked and sure enough there were two holes higher up with fresh sand looking like it had spilled out from them. Then I saw another lot of sand coming down the bank out from under some grass near the Pardy sitting on the stick; then he flew down to it, gave a few peeps, looked around for another minute or so checking everything was all right, then disappeared into the grass. Then sand came flying through the grass out as I imagined him cleaning the entrance. I waited for about another five minutes and I think he shot out and over my head, but I wasn’t looking properly at the hole. So what a treat, another of my bird dreams coming true today - to see a Pardalote nest hole. I felt so lucky. Then to top it all off, a lovely eastern yellow robin landed on the same stick the Pardalote had been on. Later I realised that nature has always given me little treats like this, whereas the manmade world has only ever let me down. And I knew I’d finished with trying to find anything in the world of mankind that made me feel as good as nature makes me feel, my relationship or search with that was finally over. And now I know that I only have to go to nature and that is where I will find my joy.
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Post by James on Aug 30, 2014 22:02:13 GMT 10
Verna, can you please tell me more about the special link between animals and those people who finish their healing? Can you give me some idea of what sort of relationship we will have with the creatures and nature?
Currently all you are doing, even the people who believe they are on the side of nature and living harmoniously with nature, is destroying nature, it’s all anti nature, so your relationships with it are not truly loving. You can’t have unloving relationships with your children and let loving ones with nature, as you can’t love nature truly and not your children.
And why I bring children into it is because how you will be with nature and all living things is how children are, without fear or judgement, simply accepting them for what they are, and not seeking to use or control them, just being with them. But not with the lack of knowing awareness and understanding a child has, but with full adult awareness. So nature will no longer have anything to fear from mankind when all people one day are wholly loving. However that’s a long way in the future when the Rebellion has been completely healed. So in the meantime on a person to nature level, as people heal themselves so their relationship with nature will change and evolve into one of being completely loving. Hence the reawakening of this long forgotten personality attribute I mentioned. And this attribute has been completely shut off, it’s been severed, so native tribes people who’ve had a close relationship with nature have still not been using this circuit, neither have those people who seem to have a very close affinity with nature, even with some animals coming up to them and being happy to be with them showing no fear whatsoever. All of this sort of thing is just variations in the psychic levels and is nothing more than some people being good at playing a musical instrument whilst others are not, it’s just the normal variation of you all in your negative states. So what I am talking about it something that effectively doesn’t even exist, so it will be entirely a new awakening for humanity through such truth-loving and truth-living people. I can’t tell you specifically what it will be like James, it’s not for me to spill the beans, it’s for people to discover the joy of being with nature in this new way for themselves. But I can say it will happen, and is slowly beginning to happen with you who are doing your healing. As with everything, the circuit will open differently for each of you as you do your healing, but will be fully operational once you’ve finished it. And some people as they do their healing will do it all being closely involved with nature, others not so, not even having much directly to do with it. But everyone doing their healing will come to understand the truth of nature and your true relationship with it - the truth of how you are to relate to and live with it.
Samantha says she’s a Vegan, whereas Marion and I still eat a small amount of meat (if it is meat) in the soups we use, although increasingly less of it.
It doesn’t matter James, it’s what you feel you want to do, not what you think you should do. And as you’ve done and as Samantha is doing, you express all you feel about such things, and some people will feel passionately about some things that are very important for them and others will have other things, yet both will be striving to live true to their feelings. So you can’t say that in the end when everyone is healed you’ll all be like... That’s not what it’s about. It’s about each of you finding out for yourself through your feelings how your soul desires you to live.
So is it possible that some people who heal themselves completely would still eat meat?
It is possible, and may even be necessary, yet it’s also possible that no one will, and that part of your healing is to heal yourselves of the need to hurt and kill anything. And I’m not going to say which way it will go, because there are a lot of changes coming upon humanity, and many people will be forced to live differently, and some choosing to, but all for specific reasons at specific times, and all to do with where they are in their healing.
I am appreciating that more by reading Samantha’s, Desire’s and Wesley’s experiences, seeing how different we all are, and that in no way can someone say ones healing will go like this...
Because you can’t say, it’s too personal, and you don’t know what problems each of you have and how your soul and the Mother and Father intend you to heal them. You might start off eating meat in your healing, then stop eating it for whatever reasons, then eat it again, then stop, then lessen it, then more, then... with each season required to take you through all the necessary experiences you need. So the best you can do is simply say you don’t know what is right and best for you, to simply go with what you feel always expressing your feelings and longing for the truth of them, and see what happens, being prepared to go back on what you have decided to do, change your mind constantly if that’s what you feel, or stick doggedly to what you want to do.
Okay, so really you can’t say more about this circuit between people and animals.
No, only that you will get to know the creatures as you get to know yourselves. How’s that! - you can quote that one, one of those great profound truths don’t you think?
I’d expect nothing less from you Verna.
And so you should my dear boy. And so as you’re currently experiencing nature in a new light personally for yourself James, so you can see what happens as this circuit becomes more active within you.
Yes, all right. Everyday now it’s like nature gives me something of itself, something to see. I know it’s my soul and the Mother and Father doing it all but it seems like nature doesn’t hate me as much as it used to, so it’s coming closer to me, which is my not hating myself as I used to, and my coming closer to it.
All to help you understand and to start to get something of a feeling for love and being loved. As you’re coming to understand how deprived of love you were/are, so this is all new for you James, and it’s only going to increase in intensity now, you’ve passed the worst of it.
It’s been a very hard and trying three months Verna.
I know James, and for both of you, but things are changing now as you can see, and that will only continue.
Yesterday I suddenly felt I loved my anger. I know it’s the sort of New Age thing people say: love your anger and it will go away; love your fear and you’ll no longer be fearful, but as I’ve not wanted to do that with my mind, instead allowing myself to feel as scared and angry as I can, suddenly I did feel I loved my anger. That my pain in my body is right, that I am no longer fighting it, just fully accepting that it is right to be there, it is ME, I am the pain, the pain of feeling so unloved. So I’m no longer scared of the pain, it’s just there being part of me. It hasn’t all instantly gone away mind you, but I no longer care about that either.
All accepting yourself James, not doing to yourself what your parents did to you by rejecting you. You’re no longer rejecting yourself in these areas so they are making you feel good about yourself, even loved. And such things are happening to you now because of the work you’ve done on yourself, these are deep changes, changing the core of your being, the essence of your relationship with yourself. So things will continue to go that way.
Thank you Verna, I will go now as Marion wants me to fill up the bird bowls before I start making lunch.
Until next time then... my love to you James - Verna. Toodle-pip!
Afterwards I went for my walk. The grass in the narrow lane that’s bordered by high fences had been mown and a Mr Blacky (blackbird) was eating the grubs, worms and other insects that the mower had brought to light. I walked up to him expecting him to fly off but he didn’t. I waited a few metres from him as he ate thinking he might fly off in a little while but still he didn’t. He pecked and ate rolling a worm around on the ground with one eye on it and the other on me. Then I thought like pushing on, so said I was sorry for disturbing him and I just wanted to get past, and so hugging the other side of the lane I walked past and he didn’t even flinch. When I past him he was no more than half a metre from my foot, and I’ve never got that close to a blacky. It was my ‘nature thrill moment’ and I knew that was it for my walk. And sure enough I didn’t see any Pardy or fish, just relishing my close encounter with beautiful Mr Blacky.
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Post by samantha9 on Aug 31, 2014 7:57:26 GMT 10
Hello Verna and James
You have really helped me understand about our connection with nature and animals and they being of Natural love and it makes so much sense for us to use it as a guide as to our progress in our natural love condition and animals being a reflection of us and our state. The part that absolutely got me was about Our real home being paradise and "attaining Paradise" I suddenly felt overwhelmed by that and I am working through my elated feelings that instantly hit my heart when I read that. I instantly felt the truth, that none of my earthly worries mattered and a very emotional feeling of relief and release which I will share when I have revealed more of my feelings about that. I can really understand that while we are here on Earth we have this incredible teacher called Nature which includes Animals and all creatures, to show us how to be true, we should look to nature for that and it will show us without trying, its amazing, truly amazing that Mother and Father have provided us with such a teacher, such an unconditional teacher for humanity to show us our good and bad feelings through our good and bad treatment of Nature and all creatures. I am feeling very amazed. You both have helped me so much with this and it is so great to understand, thank you both. I will carry on breaking down what you have wrote James and feeling it all to understand the deeper levels of how I feel, all good though, so good.
Verna - Incredible wisdom as usual. xx
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Post by samantha9 on Aug 31, 2014 20:09:05 GMT 10
I woke up this morning still with my sleep state words in my head.
How would we be if we became who we were created to be, perfectly healed and at one with God and Nature and ourselves. What would that be like if our Unawakened circuit with nature became awakened? What would our relationship be like, what would that harmony bring? It is such an exciting feeling to let our healing take us to a place where we, one day, will discover what that circuit will bring to our natural love relationship with nature and animals. Wow, what will that be like? My romantic ideal is seeing Squirrels and birds bringing me fruit and berries and nuts so that we can all sit together and share. Animals and the wind protecting me and me protecting them nature and the elements working together as one with me but in truth I cant even imagine what it would be like to have that awakened circuit because it doesn't exist in me yet at this time of my unloving natural love state. Thank you James and Verna for all you write, so incredible.
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Post by James on Sept 2, 2014 22:41:28 GMT 10
Verna, there’s something more that I’m to see about nature and our relationship with it, isn’t there?
Always more James, you know that.
So let’s have it then. During my prayer last night something profound about it came to me, but for the life of me I can’t remember what it was. Can you please jog my memory or tell me what it was?
It was that nature is true and perfect as you know, and that mankind in its current evilness is untrue and imperfect, and so all mankind does is hurting nature, and this will continue to happen until humanity chooses to do its healing. And you are only hurting nature because you are hurting yourselves, because you were hurt as children.
Yes, I know that Verna, but where is the profundity that I saw last night, it seemed like a major part that I’d not looked into and so wanted to discuss with you. Ah... but there is no use forcing it, it will no doubt come if it’s meant to; so anyway, how about a chat about nature or anything else, I’m not keeping you away from any very important social functions in the nature spirit realms am I Verna?
Well I have had to REORGANISE my social calendar because you SUDDENLY felt like a chat, and I am as you understand, A VERY BUSY GIRL, however as that’s what I am meant to do - PUT MYSELF ASIDE DROPPING EVERYTHING WHEN THE MAN CALLS, so that’s what I must do. So yes, I can squeeze you into my VERY BUSY SCHEDULE, so James go ahead... you don’t mind if I PAINT MY NAILS WHILST WE TALK DO YOU?
Marion was saying yesterday it would have been so good had her parents relished every moment of her existence, and for them to be so thankful to her for being her small self coming into being providing them with so many wonderful good feelings and opportunities to grow in truth. And you saying that about being ‘very busy’ reminds me of how mum was, and how many times I was left waiting for her to JUST MAKE ANOTHER PHONE CALL, god knows who she was having to call all the time.
Her men James, nothing more, only you were too young to understand. She needed constant approval and false love knowing she always had such admirers, your father not giving her what she needed - and it was the same for him. Neither of them gave you want you needed.
And then I was reading a grandmother saying how much she adored her grandchildren, loving doing nothing more than going to the beach and building sandcastles with them, sitting with them under the trees whilst they toddled around and did what they wanted. How she had ALL THE TIME IN THE WORLD FOR THEM, when looking back at herself with her children she had no time for them, always too busy, even scrubbing the front step every day. It’s all SO IMPORTANT all that we think life is and how we are to be as parents, when most of it you could scrap and everyone would be a lot better off. So then the grandmother is loved and the mother hated; and then I think of how much Gran fucked me up, she being so much more controlling than mum, all because she had all that ‘free time’ to be with me.
There was no escape James.
No, only endless miserable feelings. Feeling sad and sorry for myself and being so angry with them. But we’re not talking about nature Verna.
No need James, your relationship with nature is your relationship with yourself, and ones relationship with ones children. How you relate to them, how you were treated is how nature is treated. Nature is like a child, which is why it’s so unconditionally accepting of you and itself - why it doesn’t complain, why it has all the time in the world to just be itself - the true expression of itself. Nature doesn’t WASTE TIME, there is no time for nature, it doesn’t have VERY IMPORTANT THINGS TO DO WITH ITS TIME. It uses time to perfection by just being its true self. I will tell you now James what it was you saw in your meditation last night. It was to take what I told you about humanity’s relationship with us nature spirits, and humanity’s relationship with nature, and unite the two.
Yes I remember Verna - that was it! So please go on.
We want you to understand that when humanity Fell, when it Rebelled, then the natural personality interacting circuit I told you about the other day stopped functioning for humanity with BOTH nature and nature spirits - we nature spirits being akin to nature so far as being the ‘spirit’ element of nature. So your relationship with physical nature and spiritual nature ended where truth is concerned, turning into the perverted and distorted thing you have now. So you fail to understand truly what nature is all about, just as you fail to understand what we nature spirits are all about. And as I’ve told you before, humanity is meant to interact with us nature spirits just as much as it does with nature, there is not meant to be any separation from physical nature and spiritual nature - as manifest by us nature spirits. NOTHING happens in physical nature that doesn’t involve us - spiritual nature. The two are interconnected, we need each other, and you need both of us on both the physical and spiritual levels so as to complete your experiences with nature that will help you grow in truth.
I understand what you’re saying, but how can we embrace the spirit part with you when we don’t see you?
You keep us in mind, you meld physical nature with spiritual nature within your consciousness. And although you don’t have to do anything about it, it’s just accepting and acknowledging within yourself that the two levels of natural reality are inextricably linked. And even though you are living currently rebelling against both, so in rebellion against the truth of both, we are still inextricably linked. So we keep nature on its path being true to you, but all to reflect your unloving state of mind and will with it and yourselves. But when you are true and pure having fully healed yourselves, then we’re able to keep nature on a path to reflect this positive and truly loving state of mind and will that you’ll be expressing.
So all the weird things nature does, like suddenly a swarm of locusts that damage all the crops, disease breaking out, hurricanes and earthquakes wiping people out; suddenly the bird is flying or the wallaby is jumping at the car so you can’t avoid it, are all part of nature expressing itself for us to see our hatred of it, our rebellion and rejection of it. Those things happening to us to make us feel bad, to make us feel what we’re already feeling but refusing to acknowledge. And we do hate it, that I’ve not fully understood before - I’d not fully felt it until recently. As much as we - some people - say they love it, really we don’t, we hate it. This was a new revelation for me the other day. Nature has been my safe haven, it’s the only thing I’ve loved, but I had to admit as I was talking about this to Marion that also I knew I hated and despised it because it was so good, it was truly loving and perfect and uncomplaining, it was all the things I was supposed to be, all the things my parents and Gran said I must be, but I couldn’t be them, and I kept getting into trouble for that, whereas nature could, it was never bad, even when it did things to hurt people - that much I knew. It’s a bit of a contradiction in me. I’ve not just hated nature for doing all those people-destroying things as some people do. I’ve seen it only does those things because of how we treat it, but still I had to admit I do hate it, hating how bloody good it is always showing me up for being the bad one.
Yes, all those ‘bad’ things nature does are not bad, it’s just that humanity sees them as bad because it’s not living true to itself. And if it were, it would then be able to enjoy such things, living with them, and not being so adversely affected. People would feel nature was on their side and not going against them, just as parents would feel the gift their children were to them and not something that is fighting against them, that are too wilful, always making things more difficult than they would be.
So were humanity perfect in its evolution and spiritual growth it would by now have learnt how to live in harmony with the natural happenings of Earth, and people would not get sick because they’d not need such illnesses to show them they were living in pain because of being untrue to themselves.
That’s right. And so you’d develop - with our help, ways of living on the Earth that would be in harmony with Earth. You’d fully respect the Earth and work with it, not against it, you’d be going with the flow not trying to dam it up and make it flow uphill. And you would relish and adore nature for giving you so much, just as you said parents would relish and adore their children. And you’d have all the time in the world for nature, as you would for your children, and not the other way around. Your whole world, life, culture and society would be with nature, looking at it as being one of your children, all whilst understanding you yourself are a child of nature, a creature of creation, just as you are also a child of God. And James I am glad you have admitted that you hate nature - which also means, you hate us nature spirits and hate the good spirits as in the Celestials; you hate Mary and Jesus, you hate the Mother and Father, all because you hate all that is good, right and true, because that’s how you are in your anti love and anti truth state. You can’t love us truly. You can love us the best you can whilst in your yuk, but it’s not true love as it will be when you’ve come out of your evilness.
So we humanity hate nature, we hate the world, we hate life, we hate ourselves, we hate each other, we hate everything and everyone.
Yes, even though you don’t want to admit it, yet it’s the truth. And of course as you are only evil by Default, and not by outrightly rebelling, so you pretend you are not as bad and evil and unloving as you are by trying to convince yourselves that you are loving, that you do love yourselves, each other, your children, your pets, nature, and the world.
So how nature is, is all conditioned by how we are. So if we were truly loving, so nature would be different?
Yes, and very different, you’d not know the world. You are all so highly conditioned to living in your evilness, you don’t know there is another way, but there is.
And so presumably humanity is to evolve into this new way as more people do their healing.
Yes. And with other things to happen to humanity in its evilness that will allow people to do their healing and live true once they’ve completed it, so such people will be able to live true to themselves in the evilness.
Marion was just saying that she can’t see how anyone could live true whilst humanity is evil. She thinks that if she heals herself she’ll move to live in another world where she can live true, so die as she can’t see she can live true on Earth as there’s nothing for her to live, it all not being as she wants it to be.
I can’t say anything more about that James, it’s what you’re still to experience and win the truth from.
I don’t know about it either Verna, and I understand you can’t say more. But surely people must be able to live being true within the evil so they can have children being true parents, or else there is no way humanity will keep going, it will slowly cease to be as it heals itself of evil. If everyone were to die when they healed themselves, and more and more people are to do their healing, then eventually there’d be no one left on Earth in a healed state once the last evil person healed themselves. Anyway that’s another topic and one filled with too much speculation, and I’m not interested in that at the moment. And I feel that I’m at the end of another lovely moment with my gorgeous unseen nature spirit friend Verna.
True James, time for you to clean the bird bath as you’ve been putting it off.
Yes, my back isn’t conducive to wanting to bend over, it hurts so much. However the ‘pond’ is now too murky, and even though it’s started to rain, that doesn’t seem to deter some of the birds from having a bath. I’ll go now Verna, thank you again, thank you for all you do for me. And thank you to all the nature spirits who help me go through what I need to go through.
It’s our pleasure James.
I do keep you in mind on my walks.
We know you do James, some of our kind are always walking with you. So now I’ll get back my BUSY LIFE, now all the interruptions are OVER.
But Verna, being interrupted allows you to show how WISE and ALL KNOWING you are.
True... there are compensations. BIG HUG... Goodbye James.
Bye Verna.
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Post by samantha9 on Sept 3, 2014 5:00:24 GMT 10
I have loved reading this conversation between you and Verna, always so much wisdom and gives me lots to feel and write about how it all makes me feel, thanks to both of you.
I sat outside the Granary today and was writing about the truth of me wanting to go unseen be everyone, I caught myself hiding or turning away from people so I don't have to confront them or engage with them, this was a shock for me as I have never been conscious of me doing it before but I had such a heart felt prayer this morning with Mother and Father, asking them to make me aware of my denial, to show me something that would shock me about myself and I was answered. A light went on within me as I caught myself trying to avoid contact with people. I was suddenly flooded with times when I had done this, I have been truly amazed today as I have had to face the truth that just as I had gone unseen in my childhood, desperately wanting to be seen all my life, well, I have realized that that wasn't true either, I have spent my whole life being as I was treated, unseen, and I have done my best to carry this on, I had to admit today that all this time I thought I wanted to be seen but that is untrue, I don't want to be seen, I am not comfortable with the attention so I turn away and I never realised I did that, I have tricked myself thinking it was to be seen that I wanted wen everything in me is screaming, "Don't see me, it is to painful" My mind was saying "I want to be seen" but my soul knows the truth and it is all the opposite. The revelation of this has been incredible to me and has shocked me that I have fooled myself all these years but the soul knew the truth. I mention this here because as I sat outside writing all of my feelings about this new revelation a Magpie landed near me and was showing me exactly what I do. He was showing me just how I avoid and hide, as every time I had eye contact with him he would run behind the tree then come out and when he saw me look at him, he turned his back on me and I could have cried at the amazement I felt because of the beautiful way he was helping me and confirming to me how I am, I was truly overwhelmed at this teacher hopping about before me, helping me by playing it all out, like Mother and Father had said to him, go down and show Sam what she is doing and how she is being in her avoidance, he sure was doing the Avoid-dance right in front of me, amazing. He showed me how my not wanting to be seen included me not wanting to see nature or God, if I want to be unseen as I had been taught to be, then God would honour my will and not see me, so I have realised that I am asking God to not see me so they wont if that is my will. So all day and for many more I am working with my pain of fearing confrontation and looking at all the things I do to avoid being seen and now I am so aware of myself and the clever ways I have of trying to make myself invisible because that is the truth of how I felt as a child. I will never forget that incredible lesson from the Magpie today, it was like looking at my reflection or playing a video back of how I am, just amazing James.
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Post by James on Sept 4, 2014 20:06:53 GMT 10
“I had such a heart felt prayer this morning with Mother and Father, asking them to make me aware of my denial, to show me something that would shock me about myself” I like that Sam - being prepared to see the whole horror of yourself. Very courageous.
“I have tricked myself thinking it was to be seen that I wanted wen everything in me is screaming, "Don't see me, it is to painful”” And how fantastic to have this insight into yourself. I’m still struggling with whether or not I want to be out there, seen and heard; I do and I don’t, I’m so scared and fearful of people, scared of myself even, feeling so inadequate and unconfident, yet putting on the bullshit exterior of being the opposite. I’m a mass of contradictions: I like people, yet I don’t want to do anything with them when they ask; I want to be with people, yet all on my terms and not having anything asked of me that I don’t want to do; I thought I wanted to help when asked, even believed I was helpful, yet I hate being asked and I’m not helpful at all. And the list goes endlessly on.
And to be able to admit: “He showed me how my not wanting to be seen included me not wanting to see nature or God”.
On the way to the Bush Bank (a volunteer native nursery I work at on Wednesday mornings) I was talking to other nature spirits (Verna was apparently on holiday - Yeah right!) about how they do actually work with nature to give us the experiences we require as Verna was talking about. And I was going to use the kookaburra suddenly landing on the wire outside our window looking at us in the hope we might feed it as an example, all of which brought up a lot of old stuff again for Marion to work through concerning her need to do what someone is asking her, asking them to ‘walk me through it all’, but now that you Sam have written this about the Magpie, I’ll use that. So I want to ask Verna, if she’s returned from her ‘vacation’, what if anything the nature spirits did with the magpie that landed there ‘just for you’.
“...a Magpie landed near me and was showing me exactly what I do. He was showing me just how I avoid and hide, as every time I had eye contact with him he would run behind the tree then come out and when he saw me look at him, he turned his back on me and I could have cried at the amazement I felt because of the beautiful way he was helping me and confirming to me how I am, I was truly overwhelmed at this teacher hopping about before me, helping me by playing it all out, like Mother and Father had said to him, go down and show Sam what she is doing and how she is being in her avoidance, he sure was doing the Avoid-dance right in front of me, amazing.”
So my dear lovely Verna, are you there... come in Verna...
Of course I’m here James, no need to go on with all of that.
How was your holiday?
Some holiday, work, more work, and all to do with you of course. You’re making it hard for me, always having to be on call, always having to come up with all the answers you require, and with you and that dear Samantha asking me questions, and then all I’ve also got to do to keep up with Desire - and hasn’t she got a good grip on the psychology of it all, and then having to visit Wes to make sure all is in order to help him, and then there are more people who are starting to take what you’ve written James - what you’ve all written - more seriously; oh dear, a girl needs her rest, I’ll be looking all weathered and hagged before long. I need my beauty sleep, it’s all right for you lot, you can put your heads down and then it’s light out, but with you all over the world and on other sides of it, no sooner does one lot go to sleep and the other lot wakes up!
So you’ve had enough and are going to resign.
HA! No bloody way my boy, this is what I’ve been waiting for, waiting for for thousands of years! This is IT, the real thing, you still don’t get it do you, you dolls and guys are breaking new ground, there hasn’t been a precedent set for this, this is raw, cutting edge, fly by the seat of your pants every day new stuff. And the girls are racing through their revelations and so a lot is transpiring on the unseen levels, all of which I’m in on, and all of which I am thriving on, so don’t fall for all that poor me stuff I dish out to you.
I won’t, I can see through you Verna - you’re transparent, so much so that I can’t even see you!
Yes, well one day we might see to doing something about that, but in the meantime you’ve got to stay blind because that’s all part of the denial you’re in, all part of that shut off circuit I’ve been talking about. And so we’d better get on with it, the serious stuff, or you’ll start to get tired before we’ve finished; so you want to know what we did with Sam and her Magpie. Sure, easy stuff, we nature spirits learn how to do that sort of thing in prep.
So how does it all happen?
Samantha needs to know something - something about herself. Her soul is revealing it to her, her next ‘instalment’ of personal truth revelation. And like the very good girl she is, she’s longing hard for the truth, she is asking the Mother and Father to show her what They want her to see. So They do. If you ask for the right things you get them. If you sincerely ask for the Truth it will come. So it came for her, this part about herself not wanting to be seen. Ok, and so we all know where she’s at because her Indwelling Spirit knowing all that she is, is in direct communication with her guardian angels, so informs them what is about to happen, what will be required from them, including us nature spirits because the needed experience is going to directly involve nature, and so the plan is ready to act upon.
So how or who decides for example on a magpie?
That part is left up to us. We receive from her angels what is needed. It’s like a flash of light from them to us that contains a package of what she needs from nature so as to bring about the desired experience so she will have the necessary feelings and thoughts stimulated by it, all which she had, and is still having. You see, as I’ve told you before, we angels, and I’ll include us nature spirits in the angel category, are all about helping you women and men to grow in truth, even when you’re denying it. So a huge part of our role with you is to help you do that. So we understand how your soul grows, we understand the light required in Creation to generate the necessary results in you, so we do our part in that. I don’t want to get any more technical than that James, it’s something I can flash awareness and understanding to you should you want to know more, but it would be too laborious for both of us for you to try and write it out. Anyway, it’s just how we of the angel orders work, something that you’ll be able to study when you come over here and have more personally to do with us. And it will fascinate you all the way to Paradise, for as you understand, you (people) and angels will be moving up the heavens together, so you’ll have a lot to do with each other. Humanity as I’ve told you, is not meant to ‘go it alone’, you are meant to do it all with each other, as soulmates, soulgroups, and with your angelic guardians, and then later with angelic groups, you all increasingly working together the higher you ascend. And of course that should all start now whilst you are of flesh, and would do so were you all living true even though you can’t see us or the angels, but in time as humanity spiritually evolves - that is, as healed humanity spiritually evolves - so such future peoples’ second sight will increase, so in the end, a highly evolved or spiritualised humanity will easily be able to see us nature spirits and angels so living with us as all part of ones life. But I’ve digressed.
Fine by me Verna, it’s very interesting.
Yes well back to the magpie. So we knew where and when Sam was to have her ‘nature experience’ and decided, as we’re always in conference; that is, not so much myself these days, having moved on as you understand, but all those who are attending to Samantha in this case, and the more you do your healing and the more you require natures help the larger your band of nature spirits grows; so those of her band decided that as the magpie was in the area so it would be ‘used’ to provide the experience. Now the magpie was chosen because of the ease of rapport we have with it and how it will respond to our leadings. All creatures and plants we can ‘connect’ directly with as they are really just lesser extensions of ourselves. So we can make the magpie behave as it did, however it’s not really ‘making’ it, as it wants to do anything we ask of it, as does all nature, and not even wanting to consciously, it just does as part of its creation and being. So we ‘instruct’ it sort of, something akin to say ‘taking over a medium’ and using her body to relay messages to you. We overshadow the magpies mind, but all in keeping with the essence of the magpie, making it react and behave as to how Samantha needs it to, all so she will gain from it what she did. Now I’m trying to put all of this in words that you can sort of relate to, but it’s nothing as laborious as all I’m saying. We don’t get down with the magpie and say Now magpie, move this way... now, look at Sam... now turn away..., no it’s not as gross as that, it’s all infinitely more subtle and graceful and natural. And really it’s what the magpie might do naturally itself because of the mood it’s in, and we just work with that. Anyway the whole experience from our side is completely fluid, from the angels communicating what they want from us, to our communicating what we want to the magpie, it’s all as natural and liquid as water flowing down a stream. And as it all ‘goes down’ - I love using such terms, as if you haven’t noticed James, you remember, we love mimicking you and having fun with you - so Sam’s Indwelling Spirit leads her and adjusts her mind giving rise to the thoughts and feelings she has, all of which is in keeping with the mandates or requirements of her soul. So it’s all a beautiful symphony of light, all harmonised to bring about such a sublime experience and one that is highly personal and very intimate and just for Samantha. And it’s no small thing, she will always remember her magpie experience, relishing it as part of her life on Earth - won’t you Sam? And even if with time because so many more such experiences come her way she forgets this one, it will come back, and each time giving her greater loving feelings about nature, the Mother and Father, and most importantly - herself. You remember most of your nature experiences James since you’ve started your healing, and how much you relish them, they being like treasures you keep tucked away inside you, one building upon the other, they representing the true light you are experiencing in such little moments with nature whom is true.
I do Verna, very much, I love them all and I’m so grateful to the Mother and Father for giving them to me. So in every experience with nature that is significant for us, does so much happen behind the scenes?
Yes. Nothing is random. You don’t just go out for a walk and today for some reason Mr Blacky holds his ground, or Mr Pardy just happens to fly into his nest seemingly as a random coincidence. Both these birds felt no fear from you because we ‘made them’ not fear you. And we can make all the creatures not be fearful of you, or be very fearful. Our hand is in EVERYTHING that happens to you, that happens to everyone on Earth when it’s to do with nature. And that’s even nature on a microscopic level, such as you catching bugs and the working the infections and illnesses they cause in you. We help orchestrate the movement of such microbes within you and what they do to you, all in keeping with the instructions from higher angels. What we don’t know, that is, we don’t have any direct awareness of, is your soul and what your next level of truth-growth or truth-denial involves. We’re not interested in that, we simply receive instruction and act upon it, that’s what we are made to do and love doing. When we progress into becoming angels, and as angels evolve with humanity as it evolves, so we become more interested in and able to perceive the workings of your souls, and how they orchestrate your growth of truth. But that’s for angels who are with you in the higher Celestial levels, ascending to Paradise with you. The angels with you now are just more intent, like us, on receiving instruction from your Indwelling Spirits and acting upon them. And I can’t tell you how much we LOVE acting upon such instructions. We live for them. So the more the better it is for us. So with those of you actively doing your healing, we are in heavenly bliss. We love it, we love you for doing it, you have no idea what a great change it is for us to be able to help you heal yourselves of being evil, to be able to work in harmony with you for the light and truth. It’s so hard on us to have to help you move deeper and further into your dark evilness, to do all the things to and for you that we know are only going to make you suffer more. So to be able to do things that will help you feel better about yourselves, oh the LIGHT IS SHINING!
So Verna, Mr Blacky and Sam’s magpie and Desire’s Sarah are they aware of all that’s going on with what you are doing with them for us?
No James, they have no conscious awareness of it on a higher level as in they are actively progressing higher in Light. They do however sense that something is happening and it makes them feel good, even if it leads to the end of their life. When we interact with them for the specific purpose of furthering a persons growth needs, be they further into evil or out of it, the creature or plant receives more light from us and a deep feeling of pleasure and contentment, and even a slight sense of there being a higher purpose. Such senses and feelings for the creatures and plants of nature are very rudimentary, and I’d not want you to make too much of them, but still in all life there are varying types of stirrings that go on, if I can put it like that.
So the bird flying into the car doesn’t get a great feeling of being a martyr for the cause, all to help us wayward humans by sacrificing its life.
No, nothing like that, which is what I meant by not putting too much on it, however there is some spark of higher awareness, all of which will be transmuted into the collective spirit to become manifest in a nature spirit.
So Verna, when you say you nature spirits are involved with nature in all that happens to us, what does that actually mean? For example, this morning on my drive to the Bush Bank there was two lapwings on the nature strip, then a Australian magpie pair, then a pair of Swamphens, then a Whistling kite gliding over a paddock, then some little wren-sized birds flashed across in front of the car making me slow down, then two Cape Barren Geese were starting to cross the road and I slowed down even more for them, then I saw a flock of Ibis in V formation; then another pair of lapwings greeted me when I arrived at the Bush Bank, then suddenly as I’m walking down the path the small group of resident Firetale finches were twittering all around me together with the Blue Wren extended family all with a wallaby looking on deciding if there is any danger. It all being such an exhilarating drive, so much in only about fifteen minutes, which is of course why I like living on the Island, there still is some nature left here. So are you involved with each of those bird interactions I’m having?
Not all directly as in making the birds do specific things like with Sam’s magpie, but we’re aware of where you are going, what you’re doing, what you’ll see and are seeing along the way. And when the birds are close to you on the road, we ‘monitor’ their minds just in case they were to suddenly fly into or towards the car, being able to make them go in the other direction if it’s not to be part of your life experience for the day to have to deal with such an experience as the bird flying at you. Animals are completely predictable for us, we know them, we ‘are’ them in a way, being as I said, sort of their spirit compliment. So it’s very rare that a creature will do something we’re not aware of or not expecting. But still, there will always be some nature spirit presence present.
And so what about for those people who say for example run over the Cape Barren Geese, a big slow moving hard-to-see-in-the shadows bird, how is it set up for them?
It’s what experience they require, which might be to make them feel very bad when they realise what they’ve done, all to try and help them wake up to their truth-less life by killing innocent truth - nature, which is of course reflective of their innocence of truth being ‘killed’ as a child; or it might be to help make them feel really good because they wanted to take out some repressed anger on the innocent birds that are always in the way adding to their powerlessness feelings, always behaving like they own the roads and not flying away - so FUCK THEM! This helping that person to move deeper into their evilness. So depending on the experience required, we know that person will arrive at their destined appointment for the experience to happen, so like with Sam and her magpie, we make it all happen as it’s meant to. And as you’ve seen in your own life, everything conspires to bring about every experience, none of it being random despite what you might believe and think you can do with your mind. It all of course being fully orchestrated by your soul with all of us, and you included, living the experiences required.
So there’s not such thing as good or bad luck?
No, not on your side or on the creatures. It is all as it’s meant to be, and there could never have been another reality. You can speculate on multiple realities and what if’s for the rest of eternity, but you’ll only ever live one reality, the experiences you have been created to live - you can’t live anything else. And so you can’t ‘change your reality’, you can only believe and delude yourself that you can. And if you could ‘change’ it, what you changed it into would always be the perfect reality you were meant to live.
Well thank you again Verna. I am pooped now, and my fingers can hardly type. You’ve given me enough of a picture to sort of grasp what it’s like, how it all happens.
As your soul-perceptions continue to awaken James, you’ll be able to perceive through your knowing-awareness how it all happens, so not needing to use your mind. I’ll go now - back to my leisure time... now where was I... what was I doing? Now you’re going to bed... the others will be waking up... if I dash over there and sort that mess out - they can never get it right... then go over there to see what those ‘higher ups’ want this time... then have a quick nap myself... oh don’t worry about him, he can take care of himself, who needs a man anyway... then back here to be with James after he’s had those dreams and will be wanting to ask me more questions... it never ends!
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Post by samantha9 on Sept 7, 2014 6:29:54 GMT 10
This has explained and helped me understand my connection to nature and creatures and how brilliantly it is all orchestrated by our souls to lead us to the experiences needed to grow. I thank you both so much Verna and James and "Yes" Verna, it will never be forgotten and to understand how it all occurred has made it all so much more amazing to me. I am feeling such a new connection and seeing what I need to see in every step I take, all of which has gone so misunderstood for so long, it feels like a new Birth for me and so incredibly exciting that I am learning more about myself and how my beautiful Band of spirit helpers are constantly helping me, really wanting me to see the truth in everything, every moment, all for me, all so intimate and loving. Today I took a walk around the grounds and stopped by a tree and a breeze came and the huge tree looked like it was bowing to me so I bowed back at it in respect and gratitude of what it was showing me, respect and love, I just felt so loved, more than I have ever felt from another being, it brings me to tears to have felt the love. I was in amazement and wonder. I feel a whole new world opened up to me and I am in deep gratitude to you James and Verna for helping me to understand the workings of it all and learning about love through nature.
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Post by samantha9 on Mar 10, 2015 5:34:07 GMT 10
Hello Verna
I have been reading over all you have said to me and as I am progressing I see so much more in all you have said, I understand it and it enters me, its a great feeling, thank you Verna. Between you and Christa I am now so much more aware of my unloving relationship with nature and all life's relationships, me needing nature so much to show me the truth of this and how interfering I truly am. I was watching the crows today and seeing there natural use of the abundance the Mother and Father provide and how simply they live in that relationship, I wished I was them Verna, just for that moment I wanted to be them living that naturally and seeing the ways that I have made my life so hard with my denial and rebellion against God. Using my will out of harmony with God and the Loving Laws. I am seeing more and more all the time Verna, through nature, showing me what my denial and rebellion has created for me, for all of us, my lack of trust and faith in Gods Love has caused all the disharmony in my life, all the pain and suffering and evilness I learnt and lived and trusted instead of Gods Love, I have been living my parents Wars and battles and trusted that and that has kept me from ever getting to know myself and my true parents. I just want to say thank you Verna, I read through our conversations now and again and they are a great bench mark to my progress and how I am growing in Soul perception to what Nature is showing me, to truly feel it instead of knowing, its very warming and satisfying to feel truth enter me. I will end it there Verna and I thank you, I truly do. x
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Post by James on Mar 11, 2015 22:13:30 GMT 10
James is still feeling poorly so I won’t trouble him too much. His brain feels like it’s about to burst - Ha!, and about time too! He needs to finally get rid of all that rubbish he carries around in it.
Thank you Samantha for all you say, you are giving us over here in our little world good feelings, it’s so good to see some people finally after all these years working away steadily on themselves. And coming to understand more about their true nature through the workings of nature. And you know my dear, truth doesn’t enter you, you are already the truth, it’s all already within you, there waiting for you to reveal to yourself. I’m sure you understand this, and I can understand you feel it’s ‘entering’ you from your soul, but I want to make it quite clear that you are the daughters and sons of our Heavenly Parents, and you are all about uncovering the truth of this fact, and the truth of yourselves, and the truth of Them, and really nothing more.
The perfection you feel, sense and perceive in nature is the perfection you are feeling, sensing and perceiving in yourself. As I said, it’s all there - you are it, you’re only not as yet fully aware of it, so not fully focused on it, having been prevented from being so focused. And when you look at the creatures and feel bad, then you know that you are not as true as they are, and so you have more feelings to use to uncover the truth of why you are not perfect and true.
We are with you all the time Samantha, with you in all you do, think and feel, always much closer than you understand. But don’t try to connect with us if you don’t feel so inclined, only reach out to us when you feel to, but know we are surrounding you with our love and light, all of which is adding to your own natural love and light that is steadily increasing as you’re growing in truth.
And you might like to know, you have many of our kind now visiting you, you are something of a ‘wonder to behold’ - all of you are who are doing your healing, because we are all so pleased that it’s happening, that people are starting to live true to themselves - the right way. So many of my kind want to come and see you for themselves, which only adds further to our light and excitement we shine about you.
And we love it when people look to their bad feelings - don’t push them away or block them out; and instead fully embrace them as you are striving to do. I can’t tell you what a thrill it gives us seeing you living this way. You have no idea what effect it is having on many over here, it is the New Way beginning, the Real Way, the True Way, and those of you embarking on your healing are blazing the trail - you are, you really are, even though you have little idea about it.
And it is so exciting, we can’t contain our light when we’re with you; it’s so good to be able to feel the truth-circuits firing in the right way, little sparks of light happening with and for love instead of how it’s been for so long, against all that is good, beautiful and true - all that is loving.
And for us to know that with you we can be more truly ourselves, that we don’t have to pretend as much as we have had to; and we can be supportive of you, being with you in your trials and difficulties knowing all we do with you is now about helping you to progress in your healing and soul evolution, rather than all we have done with people being to help them go further into their self- and feeling-denial, losing themselves more to the darkness of evil.
Yes, yes Samantha, oh sweet daughter of truth, during your good moments open your heart and embrace us too, we will be with you, and you can rejoice in our merriment, in our light, as we rejoice in your new found truth. Truth is precious to us; for us to see it in you, there is nothing better because then we know you are going to relate to and so love nature more, you will do the right thing by it. And it so gladdens our little hearts to be filled with the light of knowing that people such as yourself are wanting to relate with nature in the right way, indeed are striving to do so, and are making gains in the right direction. We see there is now light at the end of the tunnel, we knew it must always be out there, but it’s been such a long time in coming. But now we can allow ourselves to feel happy, a little at least, and we are so pleased.
So as much as you are kindly thanking me, we want to thank you Samantha for doing what you are doing. You are helping us far more than we are helping you. You are helping to make things right, and there is nothing better than that.
Speak to you again soon, all our love - all my love; and may our Mother and Father continue to bless your soul with Their Love - Verna.
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Post by wesley on Mar 12, 2015 1:30:05 GMT 10
Incredible! I enjoy all that is being said here. It helps me to understand nature so much more. I AM learning so much more from you all's post. And like the expressions of Truth. I AM truly enjoying it more and more.
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Post by samantha9 on Mar 13, 2015 4:13:19 GMT 10
Hi Wesley, James and Verna, always so full of truth and so inspirational and makes me feel the magic of how a full life can be when we include our unseen spirit helpers. The further I go into my soul healing, the more I am becoming able to perceive these blessed beings. I have begun to experiment with them so I can know that they are real, I have to know it for myself, when I call them I am beginning to see them as colours and flashes and when I ask them to let me feel them, I do, they come so close and I feel tingles in certain areas and sometimes very powerful areas of electricity type feeling. I am so pleased to be able to feel this after so many years of feeling there was no one or nothing there for me, I was wrong, I just was to desensitized, to far away from my feelings and to much in denial to feel them, I feel I am now opening up to the truth of these beautiful beings that want to help me and be close to me and it gives my life light.
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