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Post by James on Nov 4, 2013 10:40:10 GMT 10
I once believed in reincarnation undergoing regression into past lives and even forward into future lives. However as my spiritual investigations have progressed and I’ve come to understand more how the interaction of unseen spirits in the mansion worlds can greatly impact upon us, together with how our Indwelling Spirits (re: The Urantia Book) can interact with each other, so I’ve been able to explain away all such ‘reincarnation’ experiences I’ve had and ones other people have had such as these two case examples above.
As far as I’m concerned, the two greatest spiritual texts given to mankind, being The Padgett Messages and The Urantia Book, both say there is no such thing as reincarnation, and are correct in what they say, with only our ignorance of the soul and its personality expression keeping one locked into the false belief and hope that reincarnation does happen.
When you grow enough in the truth of yourself through your feeling acceptance to KNOW that you are as yourself for all time in eternity, and won’t be submitting to reincarnation then to become a new personality and someone entirely different, the belief in reincarnation fades away.
God bestows a unique personality on us, that’s our gift from Him. If suddenly you are to become Ann or Joe in a thousand years time back on Earth, then what happens to the unique gift that God has given you. Is God going to give you another unique gift? So if you were Ann or Joe a thousand years ago, have you relinquished that unique gift and got another that you are now?
Reincarnation and the wheel of karma only exists because we refuse to deal with all our bad feelings now, we fail to use them to help us uncover the truth of ourselves, which if we did, we’d then see that we can resolve or heal ALL our so-called karma this life, it all being created during our forming years.
Reincarnation is one massive feeling denying and so self-denying belief, it’s using it to cop out and refuse to deal with the pain of your childhood repressed bad feelings now. And so people believing in it upon death will go into those areas of the mind mansion worlds in spirit, there to be with other like minded spirits all still believing in reincarnation, all still waiting to come back to Earth again; and while they wait, looking to impress such beliefs on unsuspecting people back on Earth, instead of getting on with their ascension of truth to Paradise, that being done by looking to all the bad feelings they are denying by believing in such untruth.
This was a comment I posted on a post on Before It's News:
Reincarnation: Fact or Fallacy?
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Post by James on Dec 8, 2013 22:20:13 GMT 10
Yes reincarnation; no reincarnation (I originally posted this on The God Light forum)
I want to use the belief of reincarnation to illustrate what is for me one of the most significant spiritual points I’ve come to understand. That being, that God supports us in our untruth, just as He supports us in our truth. Which means, if you want to keep living untrue to yourself, God will support you helping you believe and even feel you’re on the right track; and if you want to live true, then everything will change and God will support you living the other way. And we’re all starting off living untrue.
When I came upon the understanding of what reincarnation was I was so excited, believing I had happened upon a major truth. I wholeheartedly embraced it, with an incredible psychic experience clinching it for me. However, as I later came to understand, it was a complete set-up job, all to take me further down the track of untruth, and all because that was the way I wanted to go. I wasn’t really conscious of wanting to go the wrong way, and I believed I was going the right way, but then I had other experiences that showed me the error of my ways. And now I know for myself there is no reincarnation, with all I’ve experienced since I ditched the belief supporting this truth. I came to see that my belief in reincarnation was limiting my growth in truth, whereas having given it up, new areas have kept on opening up for me.
And it all came about like this.
It was early days in my spiritual investigations. I was lying on a mattress on the floor in a Reiki healers room. She was going to take me through a visualisation to see my past lives. I’ll write it so you might like to try it for yourself.
She asked me to close my eyes, she was sitting on a chair next to me. My hands were by my side.
She then said to imagine that I was lying on a soft pink cloud; and once I said I was imaging that, she said I was going to lift up out of my body on the cloud high into space. When I was ready, she told me to imagine feeling I was rising up on my cloud, first to tree height, then looking down on the rooftops, then as if from an aeroplane, then leaving Earth’s atmosphere, then up into space. She then said, when I felt ready I would descend but not into my current life, into a past life.
Having delighted in being up in space, the peace and stars all around and beautiful Earth way down there, I said I was ready to come back.
So she guided me back, saying I was slowly coming back, step by step, into the atmosphere, closer to the land and so on; and then I was on lying on my cloud above the land and she said to get up off my cloud and look down at the ground and to tell her what I could see.
And I saw to my surprise I was standing on brown dirt.
Then she asked me to look at my feet, and to tell her if I could see if I was wearing anything on them. I did that, and incredibly, yes, I was, in fact they were back boots, and I was looking at them from behind. She then asked me to slowly look up my body describing what I saw. They were black leather Texan boots, and I had what looked like jeans on, and as I looked up my back - GASP! - there was all this lush long black hair - I WAS A WOMAN! It had never occurred to me that I might be a different sex in a past life - I was very new to all of this in those days, and there wasn’t any Internet.
She than asked me what date was it, and - FLASH, right across the screen in my mind was 1882 in red numbers, Texas, and I just knew I was a rancher. I saw my horse, my husband, I was in my mid thirties.
She then got me to scroll through different ages - You’re now a child back then... and I was, I could see myself as the little dark-haired girl. Now you’re an old lady... and I was, sitting in a rocking chair looking out over the land. Now you’re at the end this life... and I was, I died so peacefully in the rocker, I could see my spirit leaving my physical body as it slumped forward in the chair. And then it was back onto the cloud and up into space and back down for the next past life. And on it went. With my returning to my current life when we’d finished.
My brother did his past life regression too while I waited outside the room, but he didn’t take to it so much, and when we got home I asked him to take me through the cloud trip again, and I was away, past lives, future lives, and I saw how everyone in my life at that time was my father in one life, my brother in the next, a sister in another, a lover and on and on, it all linking up and I was hooked on reincarnation. It was all so right, it all made so much sense - so I thought at the time, but years later having progressed, cracks started to appear in all I’d seen. The biggest one being, I was no longer with any of those people, that all being in London. I’d left and come home to Australia and was wondering what it was really all about. If those people were so significant in my current life and in all my past and future ones, how come I was only with them for a fleeting moment; how come I had now moved on?
When I read the Padgett Messages and started to long for the Divine Love, everything changed. All the spirits I’d been talking to who’d supported me in my reincarnation beliefs, came to be and said, James, it’s all changed now you’ve started longing for the Divine Love. Now we can reveal to you who we really are, we had to go along with you before because you were wanting to keep living in your untruth, and your Indwelling Spirit made up all those past and future lives for you (just as it makes up the dreams you need), all to help you move further away from your soul. But now that you’ve embraced the Divine Love and taken your first step to come back to your soul, we can tell you who we really are - they being Celestial spirits, and we can also tell you reincarnation (like it also says in the Padgett Messages and in The Urantia Book) is a false belief. So I threw it out the window.
And since longing for and receiving the Divine Love everything I’ve been through has only confirmed all these spirits said to me. And they keep saying it to me when I question them about some aspect to do with it.
The whole idea about karma and reincarnation fits in nicely when you don’t want to face your bad feelings and seek the truth they are wanting to show you. And if you do start to look to them, they will show you that all your so-called karma stems from this life, from your first moment of conception. That all of you is ALL from all you’ve become through your forming years, and if you were to do your Feeling-Healing, you’d see you have more than enough repressed feelings tucked away inside you to keep you busy trying to uncover their truth, rather than worrying about what you are meant to be learning this life or what you learnt in a past one.
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Post by James on Dec 8, 2013 22:26:20 GMT 10
(This was in reply to a comment received on my above post on The God Light forum)
Hi K...,
How I see it is that it’s absurd to think God is not in control of everything. God is God, as obvious as that might sound, so we need and even demand God to be in control of everything, because if God isn’t in control, creating us and leaving it all up to us to do as we please, we’d end up destroying ourselves, so what would be the point in creating us in the first place. You only have to see how you feel when you ask yourself: how do I feel knowing God is in complete control of everything; compared to: how do I feel knowing God is control of some of it and I’m in control of the rest. Your feelings will tell you what’s true. However your mind might protest but that’s what it’s meant to do, because God has set it up so that in our minds we can believe and do live as if we are in control and do have free will, yet we only have to look to our true feelings to know we can’t control them and that are actually the dominant driving force.
So we live with God in control of absolutely everything from the soul level, with our awareness focused in the mind with the illusion of having free will. So we have free will in the experiential mind part of our personality expression, and no freedom of will in our existential soul. And both need to exist simultaneously, free will and everything being preordained. I think a lot of people run into difficulties with it thinking it has to be one or the other, when it has to be both at once.
So what I mean by "God supports us in our untruth, just as He supports us in our truth. Which means, if you want to keep living untrue to yourself, God will support you helping you believe and even feel you’re on the right track.”, is that if you want to keep living untrue, it’s really because that’s how God still wants you to live; and if you start to live true by doing your healing, then that’s because God now wants you to live the other way. And when you see it like that, then you don’t have to wrestle with the beliefs about are you or are you not living the right way - how God wants us to live, because you are always living how God wants you to live. You only have to decide whether you want to keep living untrue to yourself by denying feelings, or live true by embracing them all and seeking their truth. And so God will support you either way. As He is already making you be one way or the other anyway.
You mention Dr Brian Weiss, and sure, anything can help you look deeper into yourself, however when you embrace your Feeling-Healing, looking to your own bad feelings to guide you back into your early life so you can uncover the truth of how your wrongness came about, then you no longer need such techniques.
I have read that book you mentioned about Jenny Cockell, as have I read many peoples stories and accounts of reincarnation, and there are reasons God has told me as to why people have experienced such things, but really it’s for them to uncover such reasons for themselves through their feeling-healing as I have uncovered them for myself through my feelings.
I’ve had lots of so-called spiritual experiences like my past and future life ones, which I now understand were just mind expansion experiences, all of which set me up to move past them, and into where I am now, looking to my feelings to guide my true spiritual growth. I was afforded those experiences so I could explore many of the mind techniques people attribute to growing spiritually, as I also did when I had them. However as I said, none of them actually made me feel good for any length of time, always making me look further and deeper.
Another more technical point about reincarnation I find helpful in understanding how it’s an erroneous belief, is to do with the nature of personality. When one understands how incredible and beautiful personality is, how sacred it is, and how it’s our unique gift from God, then ones starts to gain a deeper appreciation for every experience we have, how it is helping our soul express its personality, and how wonderful that is.
So then to bring reincarnation into it. You K... are the wonderful, beautiful personality you are, and an expression of the unique gift God has given you - because there will NEVER be another person like you. And how each and every moment is a unique experience for you, and only you. And then think, suddenly, you cease to be. You, Kaz, ends, and you are reincarnated as Robert for example; then as Robert, he will have his own unique gift of personality from God, with every experience making him be as he is. But God only gifts us with one unique personality, so which is it going to be: K... or Robert or Anne or Xia or Zhang or... And if it’s Robert, then what happens to K..., to all that wonderful experience, all that uniqueness. Does it just go into some Oversoul sort of thing, or does it just stop. And if it does just cease to be: HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT K...? Do you feel happy Kaz has gone and now you’re Robert?
So for me when I think down these lines, I feel my soul - myself, the personality I am, and as much as I hate being untrue and living against myself, nature and God, still that’s how I am, it’s me. And I’ve slowly come to even appreciate that my being unloving, evil and in a negative state of mind and will is an incredible experience, unique of itself, and one for me to even saviour and relish, as much as I’m trying as hard as I can to heal myself of being this way.
So perhaps there is more to what love actually is, and perhaps part of God being loving includes His expression of un-love or no-love and evil... Or perhaps it’s the ‘negative’ side of love that we’re currently living, yet still love, and we’re extremely fortunate to be given the first hand experience of both sides of the love-coin.
Also, another point against reincarnation, this one from the Padgett Messages, is we learn of countless spirits who have embraced the Divine Love and ascended the mansion worlds having healed themselves, and then gained entry into the higher Celestial spheres. And not one of these billions upon billions of spirits have reincarnated. So if reincarnation does exist, one has to then consider if only some people and spirits have to do it. Which doesn’t feel right.
On of the good things about the Padgett Messages is they point out many things that have not previously been revealed on Earth, with one such thing concerning a major division that exists in the mansion worlds - and also on Earth but it’s harder to see here.
There are as you might know seven mansion worlds, with our dying and waking up in the first world then progressing in theory up through them and into the Celestial spheres, and then further higher or inward eventually to arrive on Paradise, the literal Home of God, and Centre of Creation.
However the mansion worlds are currently divided with worlds one, two, four and six for all those spirits who want to advance their minds, this being where those spirits reside who believe in reincarnation, it being a metal advancement and nothing to do with ones true soul growth of truth. And so people who believe in it when they die will go and live in these mind worlds, there awaiting their next life, whilst looking to perfect their mind.
And then there are the other odd worlds, three, five and seven, and we’re told that within them are all the spirits who’ve embraced the Divine Love and are looking to heal themselves and ascend up through the levels to gain entry into the Celestial spheres. And these spirits, as I said, aren’t waiting around trying to perfect and advance their minds, they are getting on embracing their feelings and healing themselves of their imperfection through their feelings, as I’ve suggested we can do in other posts.
So when you understand this, and if you believe it, then suddenly you’re faced with the notion of either: a) living confined to the mind mansion worlds looking to perfect and advance your mind forevermore; or b), embrace the Divine Love, do your feeling- and soul-healing, ascend the mansion worlds, leaving them altogether once you’re healed, then moving into the greater universe - the Celestial spheres, then heading off on your long Paradise ascent. And there are spirits from humanity currently living both options.
And the thing is, there has been a ban on the Divine Love mansion world spirits and Celestial spirits in revealing information about their way of life, yet no ban on the mind spirits telling us all about their way of life with the mind. And the mind spirits are completely ignorant of the Divine Love spirits’ way, so we have all these people receiving information such as about reincarnation from these ignorant mind spirits - albeit mostly in good faith from such spirits, only they fail to understand because they’ve not embraced the Divine Love and started to do their Soul-Healing, that they can actually get out of the mansion worlds, that there are actually higher worlds to evolve into. They don’t even know the higher Celestial spheres exist. So they are striving to become at-one with God through the mind, and mentally transcend all that’s stopping them achieving such a goal, even believing they have completed their karmic cycles, all to attain bliss and nirvana. But it’s all only a fantasy, a mental delusion, because there are all these other spirits who see the folly of that way of living, and have instead embraced the Divine Love, are trying to let go of their controlling mind, submitting to their feelings instead, and getting on healing themselves, ascending in truth, and moving on beyond the limitations and confinement of the mind worlds. And the same things apply to us now on Earth.
And so you have these mind spirits, some apparently living for thousands of years consumed by their mind progression, living in the upper planes of the sixth mansion world believing they are the ants-pants. And then you have other more humble spirits - ‘the meek’, who are longing to God for His Divine Love, wanting to truly perfect themselves, getting rid of all their controlling mind beliefs, and evolving their soul in truth through their feelings.
So in this light, reincarnation can be seen for what it is - just another mental delusion. So when you suggest it should be looked into more, I would argue, what’s the point, when it’s only a fantasy anyway, and what’s to be gained by trying to live a fantasy. So it should be ditched. And really mostly for us in the West, it’s only a more appealing mind alternative for those people who can’t bear the Western Christian way. But the Western Christian, the New Age, all the ways of the other religions, are all yet more mental fantasies and delusions, and won’t advance one in truth. And so such people who believe in them will die, moving into the appropriate sector in the mind worlds in accordance with their beliefs, there to happily carry on living and advancing their mental fantasy and delusion by being a Christian, Moslem, Hindu, Buddhist, Spiritualist, atheist or striving to attain nirvana and become an Eastern guru; and even someone with Divine Love in their soul who doesn’t want to do their healing ending their mind controlled and mind-led life, and instead looking to a feeling-led one. All believing the Mind is the way to God, when it’s our Feelings that are the true way to God.
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