Healing Crystals

Hi James

I have loved reading this conversation with Vernisha. My wands are a real passion and I love creating them for myself and others and I use the crystals because they are so pretty, their beauty amazes me. I create them more for my artistic fulfilment, like an ornament or something bespoke but many people in the New Age world buy them and say they can feel incredible energy from them but I don't really feel that at all. I feel a connection to nature and the wonderful feeling I get when I have finished them and know that I created it. I don't ever know what it will come out like really I just begin carving and follow where my passion leads me. Some are crystal encrusted some are plain if the wood is too beautiful to cover and I use Olive oils and Rose of Sharon Oils to treat them all so natural. I never want to mislead people buying them that they have magickal powers as that would go against all my healing and I don't want to add to anyone's deeper illusions but it is up to them what they chose to believe. I just love creating them for my artistic expression but I have had to look into why I have chosen to create wands and it has come down to the fantasy of wanting to magick my way out of my life, the fantasy was better than the reality. I also had to look at what they were distracting me from facing, from feeling. I found that I would work on them when I was avoiding a feeling within me so they were like an addiction, one of the many, that stopped me feeling, so I have had to stop doing them to find out how I feel about not doing them and it was hard. What was it I didn't want to feel? what were they covering up? Many feelings came up like Boredom, No fun, What do I do with my self, I have nothing or no one to keep me happy, I don't want to feel grief, I am Alone and when I am creating Wands I am distracted from loneliness, the grief and I will do any thing not to feel the pain of being alone, overlooked, rejected and so much more. But I am working at such a deep level to go through all of these feelings and it has opened up a whole load of other addictions I use to cover up my feelings, it has been an incredible few weeks and I am revealing so much more of my childhood repression just me and My Mother and Father.

Tuesday, 24 June 2014

Changes in the unseen realms.

Vernisha, what about chakras in relation to our healing - can you please tell me anything about them?

I can James, I can speak about any topic you’re interested in, having been over most of it with you before as you’ve worked though such things.

So you’re also aware of all I’ve been told by other spirits who are not of your band?

Yes. Part of our work with you involves also working with these other spirits. We’ve learnt a great deal from them because of you and all you’re interested in. Many of the things I had no idea about before we started out with you, but it all fascinates me as much as it does you, which has been part of our understanding as to why we were chosen to be your primary Celestial soul group.

I suppose that makes sense, it wouldn’t be much good having spirits helping you who didn’t share the same interests. So as Marion’s not interested in such things as I am, she having her own interests, does she have her own main group too?

Yes, she does. And we both at times work hand in hand with you both, other times just with each of you, and then there are a host of other groups being constantly called upon to work with you both as well - although mostly you’re not aware of such goings on.

Some of the Celestials I’ve worked with have said that before, and if what you say is true, then it’s probably best I don’t know all what’s going on as I’d be too distracted with you all taking me away from my healing.

That’s right, you are not meant to be aware James. And when I say ‘worked’ with you, that doesn’t mean necessarily directly with you in person whether you’re aware of us or not, it means work with anything to do with the work you and Marion are both doing, as in your healing and all that’s transpiring because of that over here and on all the different levels. Great changes are taking place as you’ve been told, all now resulting from those people who are starting to do their healing. Lots of spirits are being stirred up by what’s happening on Earth because of all you both have revealed and are continuing to do, it all affecting a lot of change over here in the mansion worlds mostly, all of which we Celestials are involved in to some extent. However, as you understand, I can’t be more specific than that about such things. Only to say that a lot is going on now, but it will be nothing compared to what is forecast to occur; so much of our work is in preparation for what lies ahead.

So you mean like Marion and I and Desire, Wesley and Samantha as we’re doing our healing, we’re all affecting somehow other spirits simply because of our doing our healing.

Yes, and other people who are now reading your work and all what your forum members are saying. You see James, ripples are starting to move outwards as there are many spirits involved with such people on Earth, and not all of them are Divine Love spirits who are already striving to heal themselves. So a lot of spirits in the mind mansion worlds are starting to take an interest in what the people they ‘follow’ or are associated with on Earth are doing and reading, what is going on within them, their thoughts, feelings and emotions, all of which is affecting these spirits who too are starting to ask questions. There was a slight ripple when the Padgett Messages became publicly available, however mostly just like the Divine Love forums, many of the attending spirits aren’t too greatly affected by those people readily embracing the Messages, however yours and Marion’s work is entirely different having far reaching effects, all of which are only just beginning as I said. And so as you pondered some time ago, which is true, your work on Earth will initially affect far more spirits than people, and because of this, we Celestials will have a lot to keep us busy. We are anticipating a huge influx of mind spirits into the Divine Love mansion worlds as they decide they want to do their healing with the Divine Love, and so more Celestials will be called upon to help them. The Divine Love healing worlds have been what you might call relatively stable for a long time now, with the approximate numbers of mind spirits arriving in them being somewhat predictable over time, as well as the duration and what course their healing takes, but now all of that is starting to show signs of changing, and we expect such change to accelerate. You and Marion together with everyone who embarks upon their healing is going to impact upon the way of things being done in the Divine Love mansion worlds because people will be arriving in spirit and moving quickly into them from Earth, such people having started their healing and wishing to continue with it upon their deaths, so without having to go through all the usual preparation with the Divine Love like what has been happening. So other ways are to be set up to accommodate such newly arriving spirits. And together with them will be other spirits who have become aware of the need to do their healing whilst on Earth but haven’t felt inclined or have been too scared to begin it, but will want to start once they’ve settled into their spirit lives.
    And then coupled with all of this, you have a huge change that’s occurred with us Celestials. Many of the ‘old guard’ so to speak are moving on now, they are not to be involved in all of what’s beginning to happen, they’ve helped during Mary’s and Jesus’ age but as that is ending so they are wanting to now get on with their ascent through Nebadon and on further. For as you know the gateway is now open for Celestials to leave Nebadon and move out into the greater universe setting out for Paradise. And many Celestials have well and truly done all they can with humanity on Earth, and are now wanting to move on to higher things with their soul-groups.

Well I can understand that. Do you feel the pull to be on your way to Paradise?

At times, but it’s nowhere near as strong as these ‘old hands’ feel it. Some were as you might say, chaffing at the bit to get going, and now they are away. But for most of us who are taking over their positions and the new ones being created, are ourselves relatively newly arrived in the Celestial spheres so it’s still all very new and exciting for us, giving us a taste of what real spirit life is all about and not just what is available in the mansion worlds, which is a minute amount. Give us about a thousand years, possibly about the end of the next spiritual age, and we too will probably be wanting to move on, however there is so much to be done with all the changes that are to occur all of which will keep occurring right the way through the next age that we’re in no rush.

So we on Earth can have a big impact on spirits in the mansion worlds?

You do have a big impact, far more than you realise, which is understandable as humanity doesn’t understand much about life on this side of veil and all we spirits do. And the fact there is such a huge distinction between the mind spirits who persist in their truth-denial, those spirits in the Divine Love mansion worlds striving to end their evilness, and then us healed or redeemed Celestials, makes it all the more so that you on Earth can affect us all.
    Over here depending on your condition, level and state of mind and truth, you mostly remain confined to your specific level. Most mind spirits settle into their level and new lives rarely venturing out into other areas, and also they aren’t allowed to if such areas are higher truth or Divine Love areas. However they can, and a lot of them do - a lot don’t also, wishing to have nothing further to do with Earth having left it - have things to do with people on Earth, just as can those spirits in the Earth planes. So with new truth and information about life and how to live and the condition of one’s mind, spirit and soul becoming steadily available from those people looking into and starting their healing, so with spirits ‘reading over their shoulder’ listening into peoples conversations and so on, many are beginning to ask about such things too. And when they are serious, that’s when we can come and help them, as can we also move closer to those people on Earth who want to do something truly loving for themselves. Since the Rebellion, as you’ve read in The Urantia Book, humanity on Earth has always led the mansion worlds in new revelation, it’s not as yet come only from the mind worlds. So the physical world has always been the leader causing great change in the mansion worlds.

I suppose had the mind worlds got such revelation it would have never got to Earth; or had it, it would have been too heavily distorted by such spirits so as to do any good for people on Earth. So throughout the ages mind spirits have taken what’s been revealed on Earth making it into all they’ve wanted it to be, then recycled it back to Earth as if it’s new revelation and truth, just as we see happening in the New Age.

Yes, that’s right. The mind spirits believing they are leading and are the controllers - superior to you in the physical, just because they can more easily control their minds.

So by the time I get to spirit, conceivably a lot of how it has been will have changed - I was hoping I could see it how it was so as to know if I was right or wrong in all that I have written about it.

Oh you won’t have to worry about that James, there will be more than enough remnants for you to see that. And it won’t matter to you anyway by then. You greatly underestimate all that you’ve written, and have no idea as to the impact it will have in time. I know you have thought about such things in your fantasies, but as you’re not as yet meant to understand such things whilst you’re still working through your healing, so you can only keep writing as you feel too - which you can’t stop doing anyway.

Yeah I know, like today with you. We’ve had very strong winds and the power is on and off every five minutes and the Internet has stopped working - antennas on the tower probably got blown off, so what was I going to do... and then I didn’t feel like reading, and suddenly - ah!, I know, I’ll ask you about the chakras which you mentioned the other day. So here we are writing about all of this instead of the chakras, it all adding to all I have written.

So you can’t help it James, it just keeps coming out of you, even when you think you don’t want to do it anymore.

I’ll get ‘writers fingers’ like tennis players get tennis elbow. So I guess I should change the title of this writing with you Vernisha and we can start a new one about chakras.

As you wish James, that’s up to you.

Yes I will because having written this with you, I feel I now need a break, as if I’ve satisfied my writing need for the moment. And if the Internet is still out tonight, and if it’s all right with you, we can write it then?

Whenever you like James, I’ll be here.


Vernisha, I’ve decided I’m going to leave it as one big article, the heading I’ve made up ‘Changes in the unseen realms’ being, so I realised, appropriate for talking about the chakras as well as all the changes you were talking about in the mansion worlds, they being unseen and changing as we do our healing. So, let’s continue Vernisha.
So, as I was going to ask you, can you please briefly give me a healing example illustrating what might go on in our aura and associated chakras as we work with our feelings to uncover more truth of ourselves.

As I said the other day it is extremely complex, so I will only touch on it. What you call your aura is really the whole of your personality being expressed by your soul in Creation. It includes, your physical and spiritual body which are real bodies in that you can ‘live’ in them. Then there are your emotional - feeling, and mind - belief subtle bodies and your will systems, and all which connects them to the spiritual and physical. And you can say, just as each cell in your body needs to receive nutrients to sustain it, so too does it require unseen ‘nutrients’ in the form of universal light - Natural love light from Creation - orgone as you know it James; and Soul-Light, the most high light vibration coming from your soul into every cell of your physical body via all the ‘cells’ in your will, subtle bodies and spirit body. And it’s these lights that constitute your aura, with the soul-light sustaining all the cells on all levels. Your cells only die because they no longer receive soul-light. They can be deprived of their physical needs and seem to die because of such physical deprivations, but really they die when the soul degrees.
    As we form from conception (and even before on the spirit and more subtle levels, the physical always being last) so our subtle mental and emotional systems develop - and I’ll focus on them.
    As we are developing layer upon layer, circuit upon circuit of emotion and mental understanding, beliefs are being laid down forming these subtle systems. And from the equivalent of the cellular level up there are light centres or chakras - light nodes forming. So you have very small minute ones cellular in size, to your large Primary Ones as Barbara Brennan pointed out in her book the Hands of Light.
    Now as we’re formed in the negative, which means, in rebellion against love, truth and light, so that is how our system forms, so were you to compare a perfectly formed emotional system with an imperfectly formed one you’d be able to see just how distorted, odd and sick your imperfect mind and feeling systems are. And then these distortions, all of which really reflect the deepest will level of rebellion - the amount your will is interfered with, also cause distortions in your spirit and physical body. So even if your physical body seems to all intents and purposes perfect such as you might ascribe to an athlete in peak form, still it’s imperfect and untrue. And so if you knew what to look for you’d be able to see such imperfection all the way down to the smallest level in all the personality expression systems that constitute your aura - in all your bodies, real and subtle and including your will system.
So in your emotional system for example these distortions and imperfections will be shown up by dysfunction of the light centres - chakras, and their connecting lines of light, those which bind all the nodes together - the matrix if you like. So very simply, when you are forming, if your parents reject you making you feel unloved then that is reflected in your will first as they are stopping you from freely expressing yourself. Then come the bad feelings in your emotional system, then as mental pain in your mental system, then as spiritual pain which might even spill over into physical pain. And in each situation dysfunction occurs as the natural flow of Creational or universal light - natural love, is interfered with. And so your chakras from the smallest to the largest can stop spinning (or even spin the opposite way) taking in and giving out light as required. And then other chakras might be needed to change and adjust to the dysfunction trying to regain some balance so you can keep forming; and so on it goes with adjustment after adjustment as you take all the ‘hits’ and unloving broadsides from your parents as they batter and bash your will around. And by the time your whole system is mature, it’s completely dysfunctional representing and so expressing, all your negative state. Your emotional system is now controlled by your mind, your mind is full of untrue and wrong beliefs, all set in place like concrete from the minutest level to the largest.
    So when you read of someone who can see auras saying you have a dark cloud over your stomach area, which in turn leads to stomach cancer for example, what they are seeing is all the dysfunction of the light centres associated with the subtle and spirit body system in that area, all of which then gets shown up by the cancer, the cancer showing that the natural light and all the ‘nutrients’ it provides is not getting to all the places in the spirit body and subtle body systems needing it causing the dysfunction or disease in the physical system. So you are literally being denied natural love - its light, which is why you don’t feel completely happy, loved and loving in your rebellious anti life (light) states.
    So as with our crystal healing the other day, to introduce natural love or universal light from an outside source, such as an angel or healing spirit through ones hands or by using a crystal (or even direct from spirit) into ones blocked up and dysfunctional light body systems, can then bring about certain affects, which can affect a ‘healing’ or clearing, and even rectification of the damages chakras, along with if necessary, changes in beliefs in the mental system and emotional purging as changes to the emotional system are also affected.
    But all of this will only and can only happen as determined by the soul - if it’s within the soul-pattern of the individual concerned. And if it’s not to be, angels or healing spirits introducing eternal light into your dysfunctional aura will either not have any effect or will only make matters worse. It might seem like it’s helped, and the cancer is removed and ones system is functioning better, but as one is still wishing to progress in ones negative state, so all the denial on all levels will only be moved to yet deeper levels - denied further - within ones aura. So one might heal ones cancer, ones mental and emotional systems might seem to be bright and full of light with the dull dark sick ‘cloud’ having been removed, but it’s all only because the souls pattern has allowed it to be moved deeper, for yet more self-denial to take place. So this being what happens to the person still intent of living untrue to themselves and advancing (albeit unconsciously) their negative state.
     If one is seriously working on oneself to uncover the truth of ones feelings, then such inner changes are always occurring with the WHOLE rectification of ALL dysfunction gradually taking place, so within all levels and layers, and there are a lot of them. And you’d have to be a mighty advanced healer with incredibly good second sight, the likes of which have not been seen on Earth yet, to get anywhere near being able to see and so understand what’s actually taking place as one systematically heals themselves growing in truth toward becoming a Celestial spirit.

All right, I understand you’re saying Vernisha, but I don’t feel like taking it any further.

It’s not your ‘thing’ James. That’s for others who will be more interested. As you’ve been told, you are in many ways just to present an alternative way of looking at things which other people will take on and expand.

So Vernisha, what about all the pain, all my aches and pains in my lower back, hips, legs, arms, all of which limit my movement so much. It’s agony currently, and it’s been steadily getting worse over the years, to bend over and do anything that stretches my muscles. I had a back scan years ago which said I had nothing wrong with my bones and skeletal structure, it all being muscular. And often it reminds me of during my school years when we’d do work-outs in the gym for rowing training and I’d hardly be able to move for days afterwards - let alone row.

It’s all the ‘unwinding’ of the tension in your dysfunctional body, being reflective of the dysfunction in your spirit, subtle and will systems. So the more you let go all that you’ve been bound up in, so it is like you’re doing a vast amount of physical exercise, but in the reverse. During your school days it was unnatural to submit and force your body to do such rigorous exercise, to place such high demands on it, the exercise making it become further dysfunctional and then it having to continually repair itself by adjusting to the demands you were placing on it. And all in the misguided belief that you were getting fitter and stronger. And although you were in some ways getting stronger, however it was all through sheer brute force which actually went more against what you were trying to do than help you. Increasing gradually the work load and by doing different rowing patterns during your time in the boat would have been far more beneficial to building up the strength in the muscle groups you needed to perform with. You were building them up during the week on the river only to then break many of them apart by submitting your body to such undue stress in the gym. There would have been far better exercises for you to do in the gym that would have simulated and been in harmony with what you were doing in the boat had you had the professional expertise to assist you.
    Anyway, as with your strength growing through the need to use your body to row, so your body makes the necessary adjustments, and in some ways also your emotional, mental, spiritual and will systems as you adjust to the competition depending upon whether you were successful or not in your races against the other schools.
In your healing it’s sort of the reverse. Your body is already ‘wound up’ because of living so hard against it. So as you let go these bonds loosening up your minds control, ridding yourself of your repressed childhood feelings, breaking down your unloving behaviour and erroneous beliefs, so as the coil unwinds, your body is having to continually make corresponding adjustments. So in some ways you feel like you’re in training all over again, but with it this time all going the other way.
    And of course all the pain and the sheer inability to physically do what you want to do makes you feel powerless bringing up all those bad feelings that resulted from your will being interfered with during your forming years. So with your will saying no, and your body complying so you can’t do what you’ve been able to do with it, you have to stop, give up, give in to all the bad feelings, feel your misery, fear, anger at feeling so inept, inadequate, powerless, all your frustration and so on. All of which are the same feelings you felt when your parents interfered with and stopped you, all so you can reconnect with them now and express such pain. All so you can uncover the truth of your unloving relationships with your parents and understand what your evilness is all about.
    And when your healing is finished, then your whole system will be perfect as in being fully functional to do what needs to be done. Your physical body might seem to be or look imperfect, however it will be perfect for what the rest of you will need to do. In time humanity as it heals itself giving rise to more perfect children will advance its genetic state with the physical form becoming truer and more perfect and to at some point be as perfect and true as was the Material pair’s bodies - Eve and Adam. So in the end humanity’s bodies will genetically be as true and perfect as Eve and Adam with people being able to live off the light of the Tree of Life (re The Urantia Book). But that is a very long way away.

So in a perfect world without rebellion, we’d naturally evolve with each successive up-stepping of the spiritual light along with the accompanying revelation, from that of natural human man evolved out of Earth, to purifying and perfecting the blending of races, then mixing genetically with the uplighting Adamic genes, all so we become increasingly vegetarian, no longer needing to hunt and hurt and use animals; and then to even no longer need vegetables and grains, being able to live exclusively from the Tree of Life - Light. And by them presumably other Trees of Life would be materialised on Earth to supply the peoples needs.

So I understand James, you’d possibly know more about that than me. And you see, when you come up with things like this, then we will take it up with other higher spirits and see what you’re talking about, see if you’re right so we can keep up with you.

But I’m only working out what I reckon based on what The Urantia Book says.

Exactly James, which is part of that underestimating yourself I mentioned the other day. That sort of thing is within you, you have access to such information, which we don’t, but because you’ve shed light on it, so we can now find out more about it, this being what we’ve done all the way along with you.

Well it just makes logical sense, but I’ve no idea if I’m right about such things or not. I don’t even know if what is said in The Urantia Book is right, but it seems to make sense if you can look at all the fantastical stuff as being real and not just the authors fantasies.

It feels right for you, you are doing your healing. You are growing in truth. As you grow in truth such things come to you. That’s how it is for all of us. And we all have unique things and ways of seeing and putting together our understanding of life. And these are your unique ways, this is what you love doing, revealing more such information and truth - it is you. And we are taking from you, just as are those people coming to your forum, just as you take from Marion when she is expanding on her area of expertise; just as you take from other people, even those on your forum, and from us, as we expand on our areas of expertise. It’s what brings us all together with something unique to offer. Our Mother and Father have made us all to contribute to the whole, so we all need each other or else the whole - Creation, won’t exist. And when humanity is well on its way to healing itself with lots of people living more true to themselves, then such people will delight in being with each other, revelling in the thrill of being able to contribute their part to the whole. I can’t tell you how continually exciting it is being with twenty-three other spirits, all who you know intimately and all who are ‘feeding off’ each other as each one of you is constantly giving all the others something new to think about; a slightly new way of looking at something, all the sparking off each other and feeling you all belong together, all needing each other, all loving each other appreciating how you’re all helping each other grow and advance in truth. And then you individually, as soulpairs, and collectively as a soulgroup, interact further with other soulgroups, soulpairs and individuals, all helping each other to grow in truth. There’s never a dull moment.

Yeah well it certainly sounds wonderful, I wish I had a soul group I could belong to. I’m grateful as it is having Samantha, Wes and Desire but they are in different parts of the world, so it’s not the same thing.

It’s not time yet James, you need to be separated from others and being only with Marion for at least until you’ve finished your healing, it all being part of your denial. And after it’s finished, well I can’t tell what will happen.

Do you know?

Yes, pretty much. Overall what is to happen we know; how it will affect you personally we don’t have any idea about. We’re observing you and the others doing their healing as much as you are observing yourselves.

You mean you observe Wes, Sam and Desire?

We do, we want to see all they are going through and how they are coping, however we don’t go near them, we are observing them from afar. We can tune into them and soul-perceive them, we don’t want to interfere with them or anyone else. And because they are currently associated with you, so we have a lot to do with their attending soulgroups.

Do you discuss us and compare notes on how the rats in the experiment are going?

We do discuss aspects of your healing and all you’re going through, but it’s more like you would being a company and discussing how the staff are - what they are feeling, thinking, experiences they are having in their healing, and how best we might help them.

How much help do you give us? I’ve asked this before of Celestials.

I know. I can give you an example. Desire was going through some of her repression the other day. She was longing and asking the Mother and Father for help on a specific issue. Her attending soul group is able within certain parameters to give her certain information. Not information about exactly what happened to her when she was young to do with this problem, but a few things she might consider, and all in conjunction with her Indwelling Spirit and attending angels. It’s sort of a feeling thing for us. So when we’re with you in this capacity, a window of sorts opens to us as we’re tuned into you, and then we feel we can act, so we might say something to you, which in your mind your pick up as a thought occurring to you, and you might even hear words, inspiration, see a picture - the answer to your musing, something to take you to the next step or help you go a little deeper or to take a more lateral step, something that might jog you out of your usual way of thinking allowing you to move as if stepping through a door into a new room within yourself, new thoughts, new feelings, something new to think about. And it’s just what can happen when two people are speaking together intent on understanding and growing in truth, and we’re allowed certain lee-way with you in these unseen-on-your-part relationships, because of the natural relationship between spirits and people on Earth. So in this case Desire suddenly received a new thought, something suddenly occurred to her, something new that opened a doorway within her into which she moved allowing herself to see the problem she had from a slightly different perspective.

So the Celestials who are with us are completely tuned into us.

We are, and we’ve very sympathetic to all you’ve been through. We’re well versed in your problems and much of your repressed state and evilness. And because of our own healing, we can quite easily sense where you’re going and what you need at the time. And with experience we become more subtle and less likely to interfere or overstep our boundaries with you. And because you are doing your healing, those Celestials with you have all been highly trained in how to ‘help’ you, we’ve all been through a lot so we don’t get in your way making things harder for you. Our motto is that we’d rather stand back and not engage if we have the slightest doubt. But also from our perspective James, being over here in these higher spiritual states, it’s far easier for us to help you than it would be for someone with you in flesh who might want to try and help you do your healing. You are very limited together in what you can help each other with, however we don’t have such limitations. And it’s also very easy for us to stay attuned to all your thoughts and feelings so we know where you are at all the time, not like a friend or counsellor who only sees you intermittently having no idea about all you’ve been thinking and feeling between visits. So our perspective is literally ‘higher’, so we can help you. And we’re encouraged to help you, your Indwelling Spirits via your angels and through our own feelings, want such help, even if you don’t exactly know what’s going on. It’s all part of what I was saying about bridging the gulf between us spirits and you in flesh.

So do you give me a lot of insights like you were saying about Desire, and no doubt Sam and Wes too.

We do on and off. We go through different phases with you. Sometimes we’re not involved at all with what’s coming to you, other times a lot. And these times such as now when you’re directly speaking with us, are a lot, and mostly we act on our feelings with you, however we also continually receive input from other sources as to what we should or should not say to you. We are constantly overseen and monitored by yet higher Celestials and angels, and in time Finaliters so I’m told will also help oversee such Celestial groups as future humanity sets out to come to terms with its rebellion.

You mean after the Divine Love has been removed at the end of the next age.

Well, see, that’s another of those things you come up with James. We have speculated about it, those of us who are interested in such things, but we’ve not been able to pin it down. And so why do you say that?

I don’t know. When you mentioned it, as such things do, it triggers something in me, and then I think, yes, I can imagine that being a role of the Finaliters (spirits from physical worlds who’ve completed their Paradise ascent). I’d always wondered what in fact they would do being so highly evolved and then having to come back and be involved with evolving worlds; what could possibly keep their interest and keep them growing in truth having finished their ascent to Paradise. So then I scan, I have a sort of time line of things in me that I’ve been told or worked out, and scan it and then go with what feels right; so that time, when the Divine Love is withdrawn, seems right. But I don’t know for sure if it is right. So I could follow it up by asking Mary and Jesus after I’ve considered it more. However if you don’t mind, I’ll just write some more of what comes to me about it and see what happens.
    For I feel, the next age with the Divine Love being available, the Avonals overseeing it, and then all you Celestials so personally involved with us, gives me the feeling of it being a very special age, and so it all being done by Celestials from Earth, a very intimate time for humanity and a time when great sympathy and understanding will need to take place for us to turn the corner and start to come back to being true. So it just seems fitting that we do it all ourselves, so with Celestials who have themselves been through it all on Earth. So if you have higher Celestials overseeing you, then they too having been through it all on Earth and healing themselves. But then once the Divine Love is removed, then humanity is in for the long haul of progressively perfecting itself with its natural love, and without the same help from the Celestials as will have been available during the Divine Love times. I’ve not actually thought about this before, so it’s all new to me too.
    So I could imagine with things being in a way a little more impersonal and removed, more technical if you like, and with Finaliters involved, they being spirits not from Earth and not having been personally through our Rebellion, could oversee the needs of people and mansion world spirits and Celestials still involved.
    But I might be making it all up, just more of a good story, so I’d have to ask Mary and Jesus about it. But as it’s such a long time away, and really it doesn’t matter anyway, and as I’m not wanting to ask them about everything every five minutes as I was doing, so I don’t think I’ll trouble them.
    Like I do with such things, I muse over it if I feel so inclined, let it sit for a few days and see what thoughts and feelings come up.

We will take up with the Melchizedeks in light of what you’ve said and see what they say.

Do you have anything to do with the Melchizedeks I’ve spoken with?

We do all the time, they are an integral part of our work with you James. They along with other higher spirit personalities and angels, and of course, Verna and her crew.

I still have to laugh, Marion would love all this, she’d say I was truly mad, our talking like this about such things all of which I can have no possible idea really as to whether you are all who you say you are and all the rest. But I’m just going with it all the more now. I don’t really care so much as I used to. I figure it will all come out in the wash so to speak. And seeing now that other people are more than capable of doing their healing without needing Marion or myself, I feel far more relaxed about it all, more just wanting to enjoy myself than worry if every piece of information I say is absolutely right. And worrying that it can’t be all perfect and correct because I’m still fucked.
   But with the others being so in command of their healing, that’s helping me so much by freeing me up and seeing that I don’t have to worry because in the long run any errors of mine will be corrected by people as they progress in their healing, as eventually all the truth will come to light.

It will James, and also when you come into spirit you’ll have plenty of time to perfect all that you want to say and reveal, even adding more through various people on Earth to what you will have said by the end of your life. You don’t have to do it all now and get it all done by next week.

Ha, you’re right, but that incessant pressure, I have to have it all done by yesterday! But Vernisha you are right, and I’m even looking forward to dealing with all I have written when I am in spirit because it should all be far more easier over there than it is here. I can hardly remember what I wrote with you the other day, let alone what I wrote in my earliest books which I’ve to someday go over.

It will be far easier for you James, things you struggle with your mind and feelings now are second nature with hardly any effort at all in spirit. However part of your doing it now, and as you say, forgetting it, is what is needed, for you are to do it all acting in the moment of your feelings and not through having some remarkable state of mind that always has it all on hand and being able to express and articulate it all perfectly. You are hands on warts and all, blundering along not even in touch with what you feel, all so you can understand just what it feels like to be so disconnected and dysfunctional and so far out of tune with your mind and feelings - so untrue. And it makes it easier for other people - just normal regular people, to relate to you, because they are to be able to do what you do, in the healing sense. They are to be able to heal themselves just as you are able to heal yourself - it wouldn’t be any good if you were some high and mighty person, and the only one because of such superior spiritual attributes who could heal himself, with no one else being able to do what you do.

No, there wouldn’t be any point would there.

None at all, it would mean people were to remain in their bad states for eternity with no hope of ever healing themselves, and that thankfully is not what it’s about.

Vernisha, what about your soulmate, is he with you?

Oh yes, right here by my side, he doesn’t want to miss out on any of this.

Would he like to say something, I mean, you get to do all the talking.

No, he’s more than content, although you can talk with him in your mind if you like James.

...We’ve said hello.

Yes. Now it’s for us women spirits to keep up the work with you James. Your work as you know is heavily weighted in the feminine and on the feminine side, because that’s what’s lacking the most. You being a man and allowing women, even though we’re women spirits, to have our say, just as you wanted Mary to have her say, is doing great things for the ‘cause’. Women are of course going to lead the way in humanity’s healing, and so for such women as Desire and Samantha to have so many women spirits through you and including Mary inspiring them, is all helping to bring up the feminine aspects of truth that have been so heavily denied.

Yes, I will ask them what they think and feel about it. Wesley has already said numerous times how much he appreciates and loves the feminine side, and has like myself been very impressed with Desire and Samantha, as I am with Marion. In fact I will ask them now as I might forget: Desire and Samantha if you read this, how has it been for you having women spirits and Mary speaking through me - oh, yes, including Verna too, we can’t leave her out as she’s a huge influence. Has it helped you, and if so - how?

And it helps us too here in spirit James.

How?

Because we women are finally able to have a say, and a say where it really counts. I can’t begin to tell how you thankful we are to you for allowing so many of us to speak through you.

I don’t mean to, it just seems to happen that way.

You mean to James, it’s part of you, it’s within you, and if it wasn’t, then it would be mostly men spirits speaking with you. So you might like to think about that a bit more.

Yeah I will. I do understand I was pounded to death being told what to do all the time by women, mum and my two grandmothers, with the men hardly getting a word in. And that has heavily conditioned me to look to women as my guide, teacher and teller of me what to do. That’s how it is with Marion. So as I’m currently trying to heal myself that, when I do, should it ever happen, then I might hate women being fed up with you lot.

I doubt it James, I think you would have always fully respected women and always looked to Marion as the ‘leader’ even had you been perfect. It’s just that the women in your early life abused that in you, making you follow them, instead of allowing you to naturally follow women yourself spiritually, and finding the true women who would have helped you. So I don’t think you’ll change in that, you’ll just turn it all around into being how it should be, having healed yourself of your mother and grandmothers negative influences.
   Women when they understand that doing their healing is their true liberation are going to commit themselves to it all the way, just as you are seeing with Desire and Samantha. They understand there is no going back, and they are feeling each in their own ways their true strength. They are able to admit to their faults, to see their wrongness, to fully accept all that’s happening to them through their feelings, just openly going with it, not resisting, pushing on, wanting it all to come up so they can bring it all out and see it and feel it all for what it is. And many other women will want to do the same. When you get to the end, when you know that you can’t try anything else because there is nothing else, then you know that your healing through your feelings is the only way. I know it all too well, it happened to me, I was ready and I understood and committed myself to my healing and that was that, nothing was going to stop me and nothing did. Some spirits and some women get sidetracked, they come and go from doing their healing, they need time out and they need to do other things to work through to show them their healing is right and the only way left for them to go; but for those women like myself who just knew there wasn’t any other alternative, that was it, head down: keep bringing up my repressed feelings Mother and Father, I want it all. And it was hard, very intense, and I thought I’d fail and break numerous times along the way. And like with you and Marion, it gets so hard you want to give it up, throw in the towel, but can’t, and you don’t, and you keep going, and in the end you do get there. And oh I can’t tell you how good it feels to finally be free of all that shit. I won’t say too much about it James because I don’t want to ruin the surprise for those people who do complete their healing, as to how good they will feel and what will happen to them at that very moment of completion.

Well I can’t imagine anyone completing it, not even Marion or myself. God we talk about it often enough these days. And yet I know it’s the only way, and I think of Wes, Samantha and Desire and wonder how it will go for them. And how they will think in five, ten, perhaps twenty years time when they are still working on themselves slogging away still trying to bring up their yuk. I have no idea if it will take them that long, and I have no idea as to how far along they are in their healing, but until someone completes it, we won’t know that completion is attainable.

I understand James, it is hard from your point of view. We didn’t have that, we had masses of Celestials being living testaments for us to aspire to be like, but you’re all doing it blind, the true pioneers, with no idea what to expect. And just having the likes of me telling you I’m a healed Celestial spirit doesn’t do much for you.

No and yes. I mean, we’d not know you existed if it wasn’t for Jesus and James Padgett, and that gives us something to go on with. But anyway, it all comes down to a soul and feeling thing, and that’s what I like about it. You feel driven in it, you can’t stop it, you do know it’s a process taking place and you are progressing, and it’s all incredible when you’re having your good days or moments. And you know it’s something completely the opposite to all the rest of the stuff you’ve always been told, and you do feel better within yourself as you accept yourself, even though you also feel in many ways worse and worse as more yuk comes to light. And it is certainly a whole different way to live. And it takes you way beyond anything you had any idea about. And it breaks you down getting rid of all your falseness and knowing you’re becoming a better person makes you feel better. And... I’m pooped Vernisha, I’ve not written this might in one sitting for a long time. My eyes are crossing so I’d better sign off and say thank you again, it was great talking about all of this with you, most unexpected, and really I like it, just meandering around as it comes.

Just like any normal conversation James. Not the more formal teacher pupil stuff.

Yes. Anyway I better stop before I overdo it, too much of your spirit light and I can’t go to sleep.

You’ll not have anything to worry about with that James, you’re too tired. And if you want to just converse, that’s fine with me too, anything any time. Also James, should you want to meet others of our group, just say, for we’re all more than happy to speak with you.

Yeah all right, I bear that in mind.

Goodnight James.

Thank you Vernisha.

how has it been for you having women spirits and Mary speaking through me - oh, yes, including Verna too, we can’t leave her out as she’s a huge influence. Has it helped you, and if so - how?


Hearing  about how the feminine/feeling side of the truth has not been able to have Her say until now has opened me up further to trusting the whole soul healing process.  As I have read Mary's words spoken through you, James, it's like hearing my real Mother give me permission now to not be ashamed or hang my head low for all I have jam-packed within me from having to button my lip for so long.  Instead of feeling like "Oh, I have to watch myself or I might spill out some resentment or anger, " it's "Thank GOD!! It's time to ask for it ALL to be revealed for what it is and take every opportunity when I feel things surfacing to "go with it".  For me, to have the women come alongside as true and real supports to me doing my work is like winning the lottery everyday...only better because the rewards are richer and lasting, setting me up for the next layers to feel through.  I have been waiting to hear that to feel what I feel (without having to twist it into what would sound better for the sake of others) is what God actually wants and desires for me.

Where I am noticing their support most lately is their relating this truth to me...that I am to lead in my home through living out my life as an example of what this working through childhood repression looks like.  The permission from these women who know the Bigger Picture encouraging me on to do this infuses the strength I need to stick to it...letting the chips fall where they may.  I keep on being surprised that the chips keep wanting to fall here with me and don't want to kick me the hell out of the house!  Just when it seems my husband is completely spent with me and closes himself off from wanting to be in the same room with me, after taking time to feel into how that feels (time and time again) I find my feet moving back toward him to ask if he's willing to talk about the shit that just hit the fan.  It is slow coming, but after I have allowed myself all the venting and feeling from what was brought up, I find this wise caring part of my soul sharing with him what all I am discovering as a result of his perfect exact words he said or something he did.  I am not pressing him to do the same, only asking if he wants to understand what I am getting out of what transpires between us.  And more and more, he does want to know.  If I only listened to the words he says or lived by how he keeps figuratively slamming the door on my face when his own shit rises up, I'd be stuck. He gets to have as much room as I need to be a child, throw fits, have tantrums, have foul shit draining out of his mouth...after all, I am playing the part of his mother and he's held his own emotions of resentment and anger towards her down all his living years...just like I have my own mother.

HOPE...real HOPE is what these women have given me along with the words of Marion: KEEP ON GOING!  From the bottom of my heart I am so thankful for your relaying the messages you have, James.  When I say there are really no words to describe the power and strength infusions given me through them to keep on plowing through it all, I mean it.