Astral Travel, OBE’s and NDE’s
Mar 14, 2014 21:04:41 GMT 10
Post by James on Mar 14, 2014 21:04:41 GMT 10
Astral Travel, OBE’s and NDE’s
This is a comment I made on another forum in response to someone who had been having OBE's and who'd had an NDE.
I've only had a very minor experience of leaving my body, however I've been curious about it all for years.
One thing I want to say is that a common mistake many people make is believing it's their soul that 'dies' and leaves their body, whether at their actual time of physical death or during an OBE or NDE, but it's not. It's your spirit body, which some people call the astral body. As you probably know, we all always have a spiritual body closely associated with our physical body, it housing our consciousness and other non-physical attributes. And some people such as yourself, have the ability to move seemingly into and out of their spirit body almost at will, whereas most of us can't. However its not really moving into your spirit body, for we're actually always living in it, so it's more that you separate your spirit body from your physical one and at the same time refocus your conscious awareness through your spirit body. And when we all die, then we simply drop the physical becoming consciously aware in our spirit bodies, living in them in the spirit worlds. You should be able to see and even touch your spirit body when you're focused in it - living in it - during your OBE.
And when you OBE, the vibration that sets up is the dissociating process, the wind noise so I've read being the blood actually rushing through your arteries in your head. And when the vibration is right, you obviously have to ability to move your consciousness from being focused in the physical to the spiritual, as the spirit body separates from how it usually is with the physical. So when you were standing by your husband - I think you said, you were standing there in your spirit body as if you were a spirit who had died and was living now in its spirit life. The only difference being, as you have obviously not as yet have died, so you would still have your astral cord attaching your physical to your spiritual body, which will be severed by the 'Angels of Death' - your angelic guides - when your actual time of physical death occurs.
We have a soul, which then creates our spirit and physical bodies, and all the emotional, mental and interconnecting subtle bodies that make up what's commonly called our aura. The soul never goes anywhere, it can't, it exists in an entirely different realm than where our spirit and physical bodies exist. Our soul is existential, whereas our spirit and physical bodies are experiential - meaning, we have experiences of ourselves and each other in them. So we have our soul overseeing our whole physical existence, and then it oversees our whole spiritual existence. And it does so without going anywhere as it has nowhere it can go. It's not bound by time and space as we are in our physical and spirit bodies in Creation.
So really there is no difference in an OBE or NDE, just two different ways to 'leave' your physical and be focused in your spirit body. With an astral trip merely being you out and about in your spirit form. And once in your spirit body, have you then willed yourself around - say decided to go and see what a friend might be doing? However you'd best organise this ahead of time or else if you just 'dropped in' it might be considered an invasion of privacy. Also, should you be interested in furthering your spiritual understanding of it all, when you're 'out' you could ask for a spirit guide to come and be with you and help you understand it all. You will always have spirit guides with you, however they will most likely remain unseen unless your soul deems otherwise, or until you ask for them to accompany you. And your spirit guides are just people you don't know, but who were once themselves on Earth and are now living in the spirit worlds; or even possibly family, friends or relations who've died and are assigned to assist you over there.
Another difficulty people have who do it is often misunderstanding the set up of all the different levels in the spirit worlds. This leading to so much information that all seems so different and disconnected. When you're standing next to your husband, you're in one of the two Earth planes that are attached to first mansion world in which we humans are free to exist in, either as spirits or as OBE's and NDE's. So it's being in these planes that you can freely visit anywhere on Earth. If you were to visit 'another world', then depending on your soul development, you'd most likely be taken to sectors in the lower planes of the first mansion world - each of the seven mansion worlds having seven primary planes associated with them, which are then themselves further divided up into many sub-planes, all full of different sectors. Also it's within the lower first mansion world planes that what are commonly called the 'hells', exist, however should you wish to visit them, it would probably be advisable to go with a spirit guide to such places.
Also if you're ever 'out and about' and you suddenly feel scared and lost, all you have to do is think about being back in your body, and imagine moving your fingers, hands, arm etc, and that should bring you immediately back.
Also many people so I've read fear being 'attacked' by evil entities, however such things are really only a manifestation of their own fears, which they'd best work through and understand before they leave their bodies. But really there are Spiritual Laws protecting people such as yourself who have the OBE ability, and no real harm can actually come to you from another 'bad' spirit. Any harm would simply be self-imposed even though it might appear to come from a malevolent spirit.
I wish you all the best with your experiences.
This is a comment I made on another forum in response to someone who had been having OBE's and who'd had an NDE.
I've only had a very minor experience of leaving my body, however I've been curious about it all for years.
One thing I want to say is that a common mistake many people make is believing it's their soul that 'dies' and leaves their body, whether at their actual time of physical death or during an OBE or NDE, but it's not. It's your spirit body, which some people call the astral body. As you probably know, we all always have a spiritual body closely associated with our physical body, it housing our consciousness and other non-physical attributes. And some people such as yourself, have the ability to move seemingly into and out of their spirit body almost at will, whereas most of us can't. However its not really moving into your spirit body, for we're actually always living in it, so it's more that you separate your spirit body from your physical one and at the same time refocus your conscious awareness through your spirit body. And when we all die, then we simply drop the physical becoming consciously aware in our spirit bodies, living in them in the spirit worlds. You should be able to see and even touch your spirit body when you're focused in it - living in it - during your OBE.
And when you OBE, the vibration that sets up is the dissociating process, the wind noise so I've read being the blood actually rushing through your arteries in your head. And when the vibration is right, you obviously have to ability to move your consciousness from being focused in the physical to the spiritual, as the spirit body separates from how it usually is with the physical. So when you were standing by your husband - I think you said, you were standing there in your spirit body as if you were a spirit who had died and was living now in its spirit life. The only difference being, as you have obviously not as yet have died, so you would still have your astral cord attaching your physical to your spiritual body, which will be severed by the 'Angels of Death' - your angelic guides - when your actual time of physical death occurs.
We have a soul, which then creates our spirit and physical bodies, and all the emotional, mental and interconnecting subtle bodies that make up what's commonly called our aura. The soul never goes anywhere, it can't, it exists in an entirely different realm than where our spirit and physical bodies exist. Our soul is existential, whereas our spirit and physical bodies are experiential - meaning, we have experiences of ourselves and each other in them. So we have our soul overseeing our whole physical existence, and then it oversees our whole spiritual existence. And it does so without going anywhere as it has nowhere it can go. It's not bound by time and space as we are in our physical and spirit bodies in Creation.
So really there is no difference in an OBE or NDE, just two different ways to 'leave' your physical and be focused in your spirit body. With an astral trip merely being you out and about in your spirit form. And once in your spirit body, have you then willed yourself around - say decided to go and see what a friend might be doing? However you'd best organise this ahead of time or else if you just 'dropped in' it might be considered an invasion of privacy. Also, should you be interested in furthering your spiritual understanding of it all, when you're 'out' you could ask for a spirit guide to come and be with you and help you understand it all. You will always have spirit guides with you, however they will most likely remain unseen unless your soul deems otherwise, or until you ask for them to accompany you. And your spirit guides are just people you don't know, but who were once themselves on Earth and are now living in the spirit worlds; or even possibly family, friends or relations who've died and are assigned to assist you over there.
Another difficulty people have who do it is often misunderstanding the set up of all the different levels in the spirit worlds. This leading to so much information that all seems so different and disconnected. When you're standing next to your husband, you're in one of the two Earth planes that are attached to first mansion world in which we humans are free to exist in, either as spirits or as OBE's and NDE's. So it's being in these planes that you can freely visit anywhere on Earth. If you were to visit 'another world', then depending on your soul development, you'd most likely be taken to sectors in the lower planes of the first mansion world - each of the seven mansion worlds having seven primary planes associated with them, which are then themselves further divided up into many sub-planes, all full of different sectors. Also it's within the lower first mansion world planes that what are commonly called the 'hells', exist, however should you wish to visit them, it would probably be advisable to go with a spirit guide to such places.
Also if you're ever 'out and about' and you suddenly feel scared and lost, all you have to do is think about being back in your body, and imagine moving your fingers, hands, arm etc, and that should bring you immediately back.
Also many people so I've read fear being 'attacked' by evil entities, however such things are really only a manifestation of their own fears, which they'd best work through and understand before they leave their bodies. But really there are Spiritual Laws protecting people such as yourself who have the OBE ability, and no real harm can actually come to you from another 'bad' spirit. Any harm would simply be self-imposed even though it might appear to come from a malevolent spirit.
I wish you all the best with your experiences.