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Post by James on Feb 19, 2014 21:13:05 GMT 10
Speaking with spirits - at least trying to.
Inspirational writing.
Concerning possibly having a go at making direct contact with your band of nature spirits and Celestial spirits, they being the easiest to immediately work with, as you probably know, there are lots of ways to speak with spirits. What I do is called by some people: ‘inspirational writing’, which means it’s all mental, as I don’t go into a trance or do automatic writing whereby they take my hands over and do the physical typing.
So this is briefly how I do it. (I’ll be basing this post around trying to make direct contact with a nature spirit or Celestial spirit.)
1. Want to. I really want to speak directly with them. I’ve never had any fear about doing it, but other people have which causes blocks, which when acknowledged and spoken about, can be worked through. So it’s a matter of: do you really want to speak with spirits, or is it just a nice idea, a fantasy. Marion can very easily do it, however she doesn’t want to. She used to think she was missing out on something, it being one of those ‘special’ things people can do, but when she understood about fully embracing and living true to her feelings, that was it, she didn’t want the mental interference, so she doesn’t need or want to do it. I wanted the whole bit: the power, the superiority, the being special ‘because I can speak with spirits’, the higher truths so I could understand what’s really going on and impress other people with my great knowledge, and so on, most of which I hope I’ve worked through.
2. Do it. It’s actually very easy to do inspirational writing, far easier than most people think, and even for some people it’s so easy they end up dismissing it because they think it’s just their mind making it all up.
So how to do it.
A). Protection? A lot of people are full of fear about speaking with spirits, so do all sorts of things to ‘protect’ themselves from potentially evil spirits, which is understandable with the lower mind mansion world planes being full of people who are now spirits who still want to control people back on Earth. However for people who fear such spirits, such fears are very serious and should be dealt with as with all bad feelings. And anyone who is doing their soul-healing and longing for and receiving the Divine Love will not be affected by bad spirits, lower spirits, bad energy or whatever. If they feel they are, then it won’t actually be spirits but only what’s within themselves. Our Celestial helpers see to our ‘protection’ as does the Mother and Father.
B). There are two ways to go about making the connection. But first, prepare a list of questions you’d like to ask the spirit. I’ll provide some examples of that below.
i). ‘Seeing’ in your mind. You might like to sit in prayer and meditation, and see if you can ‘see’ anything. So a simply exercise you can try is...
- Having closed your eyes (but you can keep them open) imagine there is a table in front of you (or if your eyes are open focused on a table, chair, floor whatever), and using your mind, speaking out loud being even better, ask the Mother and Father if They would please send to you a nature spirit for you to make direct contact with. Then just relax and see what happens, go with your imagination, and if you ‘see’ or sense or feel anyone, ask your questions. You can of course do this on the go, walking through the woods, just sort of opening yourself out to the nature spirits plane, accepting they are there with you, asking if one of them would like to speak with you, and ask your questions and ‘see’ what you can see, as you get the conversation going. And just accept what comes into your mind, you can use your feelings to see if you feel good about it, and if you don’t - why not, and discard it as your mind only making up a fantasy.
ii). Using your mind to inspirationally speak or write with spirits.
I find writing the easiest because it’s slower and I can house the energy, the light, better. I find when I just talk telepathically with the spirits (talking with them in my mind), or the Mother and Father, it all happens so fast, the thoughts flashing backwards and forwards, that the energy or light builds up and my mind can’t cope and I fade out going off onto other unrelated subjects. I’m not very disciplined in this area and it doesn’t really come that naturally to me. My focus and concentration has however got progressively better over the years, but it’s not anything like those mediums, clairvoyants and psychics who can easily see and speak with spirits for hours on end.
So to write. Simply sit at the computer or with pad and pen, get your list of questions out, and again ask the Mother and Father if They could please help you do it, and then you ask away.
You can ask a spirit to be with you, and imagine or visualise them standing with you or sitting in the opposite chair or whatever, but as I’m not good on the visual stuff, I don’t see anyone, I don’t bother with any of that, just accepting they are there, they are tuned into my mind no matter where they are or I am, they’ve got all that well under control, and all I have to do is want to ‘reach out’ and make contact. So to the questions.
If you’re new to all of this, then ask for example, one nature spirit to come and be with you, so you can speak with it.
Take a couple of deep breaths, and ask. These are the sorts of questions I might ask, it going something like this. I’ll do it for real. I’ve just asked for another nature spirit to speak with me other than Verna - I hope she doesn’t get jealous. “Not in your life James, I’m orchestrating it all for you anyway! I’ve dragged in the poor sod who’s got to sit through all of this with you.”
Okay, thank you Verna. So Poor Sod, I’d like to ask you some questions, is that all right with you?
No. (I just write the first word that comes into my mind, trying not to judge it, just write it even if it seems odd, and go with it, often it providing me with other questions to keep the conversation going.)
No? What do you mean by no?
I’m not going to talk to you if you call me Poor Sod.
Sorry, no of course not, what is you name, what would you like me to call you?
I want to be called Minervera.
Have I spelt it correctly? (If you’ve asked your first question and nothing comes, or you ask for a name and it’s hard to understand, ask the spirit to spell it - write each letter.)
M...i...n...e...r...v....er...a Min.... er... Vera MinerVera.
It that is, is that how you’d like it pronounced.
Yes.
Are you are ‘female’ nature spirit (understanding nature spirits present themselves to us how they want to be ‘seen’.)
Yes. I am a little girl fairy.
How old are you MinerVera?
I’m six, going on 656543212877345680987 years old.
Gee, that’s a pretty big number, I don’t think Verna is that old yet, and she says she’s been here on Earth from the very beginning.
All right then, I’m really 33344554455445544554455444.
You just want me to press numbers!
THAT’S RIGHT - I DO, HOW’D YOU GUESS. Hey, you humans are fun, Verna was right, we can really pull the wool over your eyes.
Yeah well I’m not taking with you anymore.
Spoilt-sport.
Now let’s try making contact with a Celestial Spirit.
I am here James, and my name is Jake. (As soon as I wanted to speak with one, I opened my mind, like open up to a an open channel, willing them to speak with me, and it happened.)
Hello Jake. Are there any other helpful things we can do to make communicating with you Celestials easier?
Really it’s for each person to find their own way in such matters. You offer your ways based on your experience as will others offer there ways. It is not a difficult thing to do, only being in your mind-controlling states, you tend to take the information given to you and use it to advance your evilness. However for those people doing their healing, then it’s much easier for us to be with you, and work with you, as we don’t have to stay rigidly confined to the limitations of your truth-denying beliefs.
Thank You Jake, but I’d better finish this post.
By all means, James, nice to make contact for this brief moment.
So I have my list of questions and ask them, and once having asked, wait for a reply. Sometimes my mind is a jumble, it’s like a lot of horses lining up at the starting gate, and if that happens, I start again, or just take one thought and go with that; and if it feels sort of ‘hollow’, like there’s no ‘person’ behind it, I stop it, as it’s just my mind. But once you get the feel for speaking with the spirits in your way, you know it’s them, and with practice you see it’s not your mind because they start telling you stuff about yourself you don’t know.
I ask them about the truth, things I don’t understand, and talk to them about my healing, my bad feelings and what I’ve see and how it is. And I ask them about themselves, how their healing was for them, what their lives are like in spirit and how it was for them when on Earth.
So to finish off, some people have problems thinking up questions to ask. Or if they’ve not got them prepared before hand, suddenly their mind goes blank or they expect the spirit to just do all the talking. And sometimes and for some people the spirit does just start talking and rarely draws breath; but mostly for me, I’ve had to reach out and lead, but that’s me, wanting to be in control. Occasionally Mary and Jesus will press upon me a feeling that I need to write with them, as they have something specific to say, but most of my work comes from my initiation and the spirits responding to it.
So some questions to consider, having asked for a spirit to be with you:
Are you with me now? Are you in the Earth plane or in your Celestial sphere speaking with me? Are you a man or a women, (if it’s not already clear)? Can you describe yourself to me? If nothing comes: what colour are your eyes? If nothing comes: do you have blue eyes, brown, etc, just trying to ask questions the spirit can answer with a Yes or No, as it’s usually easy to feel a yes or no, and from there expand further. Are you part of my Celestial band? Are you a nature spirit? And then if yes and you want to go deeper, a testing question: How can I know you are really a nature spirit? And so on.
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Post by James on Feb 20, 2014 16:07:34 GMT 10
Which spirits can you speak with?
(And please bear in mind this is all from my own limited experiences, you might have entirely different ones.)
Celestial Spirits Each of us have a Celestial band of spirits that are ‘with’ us, and which we can readily communicate with. The band will probably have a lead spirit - spokesperson, or pair - often a soulpair (man and woman spirit), with whom you might want to consider trying to make contact with. All the Celestials have done their Soul-Healing with the Divine Love, and will be more than willing to help you in your healing. From my experiences with all the spirits, it’s not for us to look to them for the lead, to ‘tell us what they want us to write or say’, because they have the ‘new truths’ they want us to receive, but it’s more for us to ask them for help to expand upon things we are working on, with them supporting us as we lead the way. They are there for us, to help us; we are not there for them, for them to use us. The Celestials will not take over, but if they do, then I’d seriously question them and myself as to whether or not I’m not just deluding myself that I am speaking with Celestial spirits.
Nature Spirits I am told everyone who does their healing will also have available to them a band of nature spirits. Nature spirits are more than just cute little fairy people. Verna has shown me she’s right up to speed concerning everything I’m doing and interested in, and even way ahead of me. She’s helped me completely change the way I see nature spirits. And you don’t have to be in nature to make contact with them. They’ll join you anywhere.
Angels As we all have a pair of guardian angels looking after us, so we can speak with them, however from what I understand, it will only be certain people who feel they are actually connecting with them. A lot of people mistakenly believe they are speaking with their angels, but as they are not doing their soul- or feeling-healing, are only deluding themselves, speaking with mind spirits who are pretending to be angels.
Mind Spirits There are masses of them - often unruly groups of them, wanting to speak with anyone on Earth with whom they can ‘get their message across to’, which is mostly other mind rubbish which if listened to will only serve to lead one further into ones negative state. If you’re longing for and receiving the Divine Love, and doing your healing, your Celestial band will keep the mind spirits away from you, unless you are to have specific experiences with them.
Indwelling Spirit The ‘Spirit of God indwells our higher mind’, and we can communicate with it - the quiet still ‘God-voice’ within us. It will speak to you as God, as the Mother and Father, should you desire it, however it is not to be mistaken for your Heavenly Mother and Father of Paradise who are outside of you, the ones who have sent Their spirit to indwell your mind. For more information about Indwelling Spirits, thought adjusters or Mystery Monitors as they are apparently called, read The Urantia Book.
Jesus and Mary Many people claim to be speaking with them, however they’ve told me they are no longer actively speaking with anyone on Earth, even if such people are longing for the Divine Love and doing their soul-healing. In future, well after I’m dead and in during next spiritual age they have said they are going to make personal contact with a couple of people so as to share their stories about when they were on Earth with humanity through these people; but in the meantime say that unless they feel otherwise, which of course could happen at any time, they have finished speaking personally with people on Earth. But just to confuse things, they’ve also said that for ‘Divine Love people’ who are NOT doing their soul-healing, they have appointed certain Celestial spirits to pretend to be themselves, all so such people can continue to evolve their negative state with the Divine Love. As for all the other people who claim to be speaking with Mary and Jesus, based on the things ‘their Mary and Jesus say’, and what Mary and Jesus have told me; and as these people are not doing their healing, I believe such people are only speaking with mind spirits pretending to be Mary and Jesus. If they were truly speaking with Mary and Jesus, they’d be revealing information and understanding about how we can do our Soul- and Feeling-Healing.
Other spirits and spirit personalities There are Trinity Teacher Pairs - high Paradise Daughters and Sons that are going to work with specific people through the new Spiritual Age. They have told me they will make themselves known, impressing themselves upon those people they are to work with, not just being readily available to answer enquires from anyone. And from The Urantia Book we understand there are countless spirit and angelic beings in Creation, and who knows, they might have cause to come to you for one reason or another. However I’d refrain from deciding that because you want to speak to Machiventa Melchizedek for example, you then take the first spirit that you make contact with as being him. The mind spirits will quickly step into pretending to be whomever you’d like them to be. Also it’s tempting and natural having read the Padgett Messages to want to speak with some of the more famous personalities that spoke with James Padgett, such as some of the apostles, and I’m not saying that you can’t, and should you feel inspired to make contact with such Celestial spirits, why not, however only to bear in mind, that it’s also possible that those spirits are no longer helping people on Earth, having moved on higher in their spirit lives having done the work for Jesus with James Padgett.
Your relatives and friends You may be surprised who might come to you, particularly if they’ve found the truth of longing for the Divine Love in their spirit lives and are now doing their healing in the Divine Love mansion worlds. One evening I started to ‘hear’ the distinctive voice of one of my old girlfriends in my head. I’d not spoken with her for years. And when I ‘tuned in’ she said she’d recently died and was now beginning her healing in the first Divine Love mansion world.
Your pets You can make contact with your dead pets through various spirit agencies, namely with the help of your band of nature spirits and the equivalent spirits who are resident and indigenous to the mansion worlds, and your angels. Your dog might come ‘back’ to you, and be with you, and even ‘speak’ to you, with these agencies giving it a voice you can understand.
The Mother and Father Through your soul They can communicate with you, and it’s very different to any mental communication with Them you might have on behalf of your Indwelling Spirit. It’s more done on a very deep, and even at times, not so deep, feeling level, all with and through your soul-perceptions as they awaken and develop through your healing.
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Post by James on Feb 20, 2014 16:09:19 GMT 10
Developing your spirit communication
‘A river can’t rise higher than its source’, and in many ways, that’s how I see the spirits work with us. Whilst we’re of a certain level of truth or untruth, so they are bound to work with us on that level. And as we progress, so they can work with us on the higher levels.
You might feel your spirit is a bit simple and you want to move on and get into the real juicy stuff, however that’s where you should start to look into yourself and express those hidden feelings you’re still refusing to acknowledge.
I’ve seen a lot of people being awed by the spirit they are speaking with, which in turn makes them be the eternal pupil sitting at the feet of the hallowed master whom they would never dare question, particularly when their feelings are screaming at them that something is not quite right. You should be speaking with the spirits to help yourself get on with your healing, nothing else is as important. So it’s all for you, so don’t be afraid to be yourself and express ALL you think and feel to them. If you feel angry with them, express it to them - they are your unseen friend. Just go for it with them, they can surely look after themselves. And they’ve been through it all themselves, so there’s no need to keep anything hidden, any secrets can be brought out to them - they know them anyway, for being part of your band they will know your whole life, all how it’s been right from your first moment of conception. It’s a big deal and huge experience for them to help another soul so intimately with their healing, as you might be able to image if you were the healed Celestial looking back to Earth and helping another person do their healing. And conceivably it’s even something you might possibly want to do when you’re living in the Celestial spheres.
As you heal yourself, you’ll get better at communicating and expressing yourself with them, as you will with all your relationships on Earth. And even if you’re a natural and it all comes easily, still like everything, as you grow in truth and evolve your personality expression, so too will evolve your relationships and so communication with your spirit friends.
If you have any bad feelings about any of it at any time, then like all bad feelings, you should express them longing to uncover their truth.
If you feel you’re having difficulties and yet you still want to be able to do it, then those blocks will be beliefs probably unconscious within you. So long to the Mother and Father to help you see and FEEL them, all so you can express those bad feelings that will be keeping them in place.
If you try to make contact with spirits and nothing happens, you just can’t make contact, then possibly it’s not for you. You can try again later should you feel to as your healing progresses. There are many things we might dream and wish and long with all our heart to do, however as our healing moves on liberating the deeper needs and reasons why we want to do such things, the desire fades until we look back one day thinking: god, why on earth did I ever think doing that would be good for me.
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Post by James on Feb 20, 2014 16:10:10 GMT 10
Critiquing your spirit communication
Would you like to me to critique your spirit communication, and give you any pointers and feedback as to what might help you progress in it?
If so, set up a thread, post your work, and tell me what you’d like me to do.
Or, if you’d just like to share any communication or experiences with spirits or angels, please do.
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Post by James on Feb 22, 2014 19:36:19 GMT 10
How I write with spirits.
I sit down with the intention to write with them. I guess it’s a mind-set of sorts, I don’t think anything specifically, only that I’d like to write with Mary or Jesus or Verna about..., then sit down. I don’t have to ask them if they are present as they are always tuned into me, and when I’m ready, I ask my question or write what’s on my mind. And as I write I do so as if they are real and just like any friend or Marion, being with me and wanting to listen to me and willing to respond. When you’re sitting with your friend, close your eyes and then speak to them - ask them a question. You know they are there, so you reach out to them expecting them to reply to you. So I ask the spirits who I can’t see a question expecting them to answer, which mostly they do. Sometimes there’s a blank, and sort of nothing, and my mind tries to fill in the space, but when that happens, I just go back to basics and start to write the first letter or word that comes to mind. And occasionally I have to erase the first sentence but then it gets going.
When I ‘open up’ to receive the spirits, I do sort of take a step back inside myself, or inside my mind in some way. I don’t give over to them, I’ve tried that but I can’t do it, it’s more like I just open up a channel to them - like a telephone line in which it’s just me and them, and we talk to each other.
Over the years I have developed a ‘place’ in my mind in which they sort of slot into, and it gives me a nice feeling of connection, and when that’s in place they are ‘on-line’ so to speak and it’s effortless writing with them. In the beginning their words would rush out, and I didn’t bother trying to write well, or spell properly, I didn’t punctuate much, instead leaving all that to the spellchecker and copious re-readings. But during the past couple of years I’ve worked harder at my English, which was woeful, taking more pride in being able to spell and punctuate as I go along. I actually loath re-reading more than twice, and so the more work I can do as I’m writing the better. And I’ve found that going slower hasn’t lessened my ability to write what the spirits have wanted to say, for I’m articulating myself better, phrasing what it is they are saying better. They just use my mind, so as it’s got better at English so too have they - that’s how it seems, but of course it’s that I no longer make them sound like idiots because of the poor quality of my English and lack of feeling expression and understanding I had. Also there has never been any problem about interrupting them, stopping mid sentence when Marion suddenly starts speaking to me, then easily picking up where we left off.
I used to think, well why can’t I just give over and they write how they want to, so with perfect English as they can speak it perfectly, as such things are apparently easy to do in spirit. But that’s not how it works for me, as it’s all for me, so they only work at my capacity. They patiently wait whilst I make the spelling and typo corrections, but the words just remain in my mind like aeroplanes in a holding pattern awaiting the go-ahead to land.
When I first started I used to ask them for one word at a time, and I’d try so hard to ‘listen’ to what the word was. Now it’s all far more harmonised, it’s their words in my mind, but it sounds just like it’s my mind so there’s no need to ‘listen’. And I know most of what I’m writing is not myself thinking it up as when I write with them I don’t think what to write, I just write thinking about what they are saying. Writing what the spirits want me to write is much easier than trying to formulate what I want to write using my own mind.
The only difficultly I’ve had and have often questioned the spirits about it, is that there are definite limitations or restrictions upon what I can write about. For example. Say I wanted to know about how electrons pass along a copper wire, the physics or dynamics of it. I used to think, the spirits should be able to tell me about it, explain it all to me, as there are experts in every field over there. But I can’t, they can talk vaguely about it to me, but nothing specific, not getting into the science of it. And as they’ve said: But you don’t actually want to know about electrons and copper’s conductivity, do you? And when I think about it, they are right, because really I don’t. And what I really do want to know about is all the truth I write about, so that is for me, so that’s where we have our relationship. Whereas were I someone who was truly interested in electrons, that being ‘my thing’, then the spirits working with me would be helping me grow in understanding about that, because that’s where my souls growth would be focused. So if I want to write about subjects ‘outside’ what I’m truly interested in, the channel sort of closes down or goes dim.
The other thing I used to think I should be able to do, which is really the same as what I was saying about the electrons, is to be able to give over to say a French speaking spirit who would write French through me. But to work like that I’d have to be an unconscious medium, whereby I am able to, and I don’t know how it happens, relinquish my conscious focus allowing them to ‘take over my body’ and speak French or Chinese or whatever through me. So how I work, inspirational writing, they can only use what’s in my mind and how it’s programmed. Occasionally I get a word that I’ve heard but I don’t understand its meaning, so I look it up in the dictionary, and I enjoy that as it shows me it’s not just my mind making things up; but other than that, it just sounds like my mind.
In the early days, and reading over a lot of my early material, I can see where my mind had more say in it, in that, the spirits were limited more to what my beliefs were. I’d not advanced in truth and its understanding to have the mental patterns in which they could easily write and express themselves like I do now. And so when I go back and re-read my early work, often I all but rewrite it.
Each of the spirits I write with has their distinctive feel to them - they are of course all very distinct personalities. So it’s easy to recognise them, and those feelings for them have increased as I’ve grown in my self-expression and healed my self-denial.
I also find it helps to open and close my mind by saying set phrases at times. Not so much to begin writing with them, although when they say, ‘I am here - Jesus’, or ‘Yes James, I am here with you’ it helps to get a ‘lock on them’ and feeling of, good, all is ready, so let’s begin. Sometimes I don’t need that and it’s just straight into it as if we’ve already been speaking and only had a minor interruption. But I like it when Mary will say, ‘Bye for now James - Mary M’, her signing off, as then I feel like the phone has been hung up and the connection closed down for the time being. In the early days, the light that was generated in my mind would make me feel spaced-out for a long time after the spirit had gone, and I’d try to keep mentally speaking with them, sometimes successfully, other times it all turning into gobbledegook. And then I’d also be merrily writing away, sometimes for hours not feeling one bit tired in the least. Then stop, and next thing I knew I could hardly keep my eyes open being so exhausted, their light having stimulated my mind way past its normal capacity. I had to watch I didn’t over do it. Now I’m more harmonised with it all, so I feel tired from the light at the right time.
I started off writing with spirits by opening out to them and waiting from someone to come to me and my writing their ‘message’, having read so many messages in books of channeled messages from spirits. But then I started asking questions more as I went along, and started going to the spirits with specific questions; and now I enjoy a conversational approach with them. I am not just taking dictation. And I like breaking up the energy by participating with them, which helps me to digest what we’re talking about as we go along. I read a lot of other people’s messages, and from comments can see it would have been better had the receiver asked questions and actively engaged with the spirit giving the message, so I would suggest to you to have conversations with your spirit friends, as you do with any friend, all of which helps you with your self-expression giving rise to feelings, good and bad, which you can express to the spirits, your partner or God, as you look for the truth of them. It’s a far more active interaction with the spirits than it just being a passive receiving of the ‘message’.
In speaking with spirits it’s really how you want to express yourself to them that matters, finding your way of interacting and communicating with them. There are definite rules to our interaction with them and their interaction with us - the Laws of Rapport and Communication, however I don’t think knowing them would make it any easier to do. Really should you be interested in speaking with spirits, it’s for you to work out what’s best for you - what feels best.
And should you have any questions about it, or if you have any weird experiences you don’t understand, please share them and I’ll see if anything stands out to me. From my experiences with people speaking with spirits, as we all have differing beliefs and expectations, so all sorts of different things can happen. And if anything happens that makes you feel bad, such as feeling scared or vulnerable or angry, the best thing to do is fully acknowledge such feelings, don’t dismiss them, go with and into them, express them to a friend or as best you can to yourself or God, and long for their truth. Really nothing bad should ever happen to you in your relationship with your spirit friends. It should all be very loving and a most enjoyable experience. And so long as you are striving to do your healing, and with or without the inclusion of the Divine Love, you’ll always be in very good, wise, compassionate and experienced hands.
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Post by James on Feb 22, 2014 19:40:31 GMT 10
Speaking to spirits with a friend; and channeling.
An alternative to trying to speak with spirits by yourself is to involve a friend. So assuming you have your friend willing to help you, you can try this exercise. Before you begin, write out a list of questions you’d like to ask your spirit friend. I am assuming you are going to want to make contact with a Celestial spirit - one of the band of spirits that will be helping you with your healing.
Sit opposite your friend. Close your eyes (you can keep them open, but having them closed helps to block out distractions). Take a few deep breaths, settle yourself thinking about what you’re wanting to do: inviting one of your spirit helpers or guides to come and be with you so you can ask them questions.
You can begin by praying for the Divine Love, however this might also move you into a different mind-space, one not conducive to speaking to anyone let alone spirits. Or, it might also help take you into a good private mind-space, very conducive to speaking with spirits.
When you are ready, speak in your mind (or preferably out loud), what you want to do. Something like: I want to ask my Celestial spirit helpers if one of my band could please come and be with me so I can ask you some questions. You can also ask God to please organise for you to speak to one of your Celestial guides. As always, just say what you feel you want to say. And if you have any apprehensions, worries, doubts, speak them out loud too, bringing out as much of the negative stuff as you can before you begin.
Then when you feel ready to begin your communication with your new spirit friend, ask your friend to ask you the questions you’ve prepared, as if your spirit friend is right with you, even ‘within’ you, or standing behind you or to one side of you. Then when your friend is asking the spirit you’re now assuming is there with you in the room, keep your mind open with your focus on going with the question and expecting your spirit friend to reply.
From here there are two ways to go:
1). Channeling your spirit friend. This involves allowing the spirit you are contacting to ‘speak through you’. I’m not advocating going unconscious and becoming a medium, this might spontaneously happen if one is a natural medium, but usually it requires practice and guidance to develop the ‘gift’. What I am talking about it simply speaking the words of the spirit that come into your mind whilst you remain completely conscious, concentrating on speaking the words.
You may ‘hear’ the words coming into your mind (you may even ‘see’ your spirit friend), or you may just feel a very slight urge to speak a certain word. Simply speak it, don’t judge it, just open your mouth and speak what wants to be said, just as if you were going to speak to your friend opposite you. It might help to keep your concentration focused on your lips, just trying to articulate each word that comes to you. It should be fairly easy to speak, having no trouble speaking the answers to your friend. You might feel like you’re being ‘overshadowed’ in a sort of way, even like you’re the spirit in a sense. You will feel the energy stop with nothing more to say when the spirit has impressed on your mind all that it wants to convey. Then your friend can ask another question or just carry on the conversation with your spirit friend ‘through you’. You will also be able to ask questions out loud or in your mind of your spirit friend and speak them out too, or just hold an inner dialogue with the spirit. You can even with practice carry on the two at once: you mentally or telepathically speaking with the spirit whilst it’s also speaking ‘through’ you to your friend.
When you ‘hear’ the words in your mind, it will possibly be quite subtle, meaning it will sound just like it’s your own mind, your own thoughts (unless you’re clairaudient when you’ll definitely and distinctively hear someone else’s words - your spirit friend; but once you get going, you’ll soon see that it’s not your mind thinking up things, it all being the spirit.
If you take a fancy to channeling and you’re good at it, also bear in mind the ‘light’ will keep your mind buoyant for a long time, so don’t do too much and stress yourself. Start out with no more than fifteen minutes to half an hour at a time seeing how you feel after it - after about half an hour to an hours rest. Sometimes the weariness can take a little time to ‘settle on you’. If you feel too tired, don’t do anymore. You can speak to them, channel them, anytime you want.
Channeling is the same as inspirationally writing with spirits or angels. You simply speak the spirits replies rather than writing them out. And if you’re beginning to write with spirits, you might find speaking out loud as you write what you say will help you stay more in tune with them.
2). Receiving the ‘message’ and rephrasing it in your own words. This way is not as exhausting as Channeling, and involves you just ‘listening’ to what comes into your mind that the spirit is telepathically impressing on your mind, usually words and pictures - images. And so you take it all in, understand what’s been said to you, and then in your own words, share it with your friend. This being how a lot of psychics and clairvoyants work, it not involving direct channeling.
The difficulty with this can be the sheer volume of information can be too great to handle, so might require practice to familiarise yourself with the procedure and what best suits you. Also because your mind is being used to take what the spirit is relaying to you and then you think about it understanding it for yourself, you might get some parts of the message wrong. It might be like the fishing story which undergoes embellishment with re-telling. But again with practice you can monitor and get to know yourself and how your mind works in this capacity, and you can always cross examine the spirits to ensure you’re getting the right message.
Don’t be afraid to so no, and ask why, and cross examine, you are the more important one in the interaction, not the spirit, so always put yourself first. They are there to help you, not you to help them. And again: it’s best if you can simply engage in normal conversation, freely expressing all you think and feel all the time.
Some questions you might like to consider asking - it might go something like this. Your friend asks the first question:
Hello Celestial spirit - are you here with us?
Yes, I am here.
Oh good, well hello, welcome, and thank you for coming and speaking with us today. I have some questions I’d like to ask you, is that all right with you?
Yes.
Okay, well, could you please tell me a bit about yourself. Are you a man or woman spirit?
A man.
And your name is?
Michael.
And was that your Earth name?
Yes. Michael Long.
And in which country did you life when you were on Earth?
England.
Michael, my friend and I are both doing our soul-healing and longing for the Divine Love, do you long for the Divine Love still in the Celestial spheres?
Yes, whenever we feel to, we do.
Can you tell us about how you first came to longing for the Love?
I grew up in a religious family and went religiously to church with my family. As I grew older I developed a deep love for God, and so through my longing to be with God, I invocated some Divine Love into my soul... And so on...
Or you might like to try something like...
Michael, do you have sex over there in spirit land?
I don’t, not anymore, but I did when I first came over into spirit.
So you can have it; how do you have it when you don’t have a physical body anymore?
You use your spirit body, you unite using your minds and can ‘orgasm’ mentally which gives you the same thrill and good feelings as when you do it physically. It’s mostly done based on ones memories of having sex on Earth, however we are free to explore it more thoroughly over here by using our minds... And so on... Ah-Ha! Want to know more do you... well you can ask your Celestial spirit friend.
As with anything, just go with your feelings. If you feel tired at all, don’t overdo it by stressing your mind, you’ll find with practice that you can build up stamina doing it. Also you might find that having ‘opened yourself up’, afterwards it’s hard to ‘come down’ or come out of the elevated mind state. You can ask your spirit friend to help ‘close you down’ when you’ve finished, and make of point of saying thank you and ending it; but still you might find you’ll have to sleep on it, to come back to being normal. With time you should be able to become more accustomed to the light and increased energy or find your own ways of bringing yourself back. Some people worry that without ‘closing down their chakras’ bad lower dross energy or bad spirits might influence them, however that won’t happen with the Celestial spirits looking after you. But if you do feel very weighed down and heavy, feeling bad, even miserable, angry or depressed afterwards, it’s not bad energy from outside or other bad spirits you’re picking up, it will simply be your own repressed bad feelings coming up within you having been stirred up by the whole experience. And so like all bad feelings you can use these feelings to help you uncover more truth about yourself as you express them. Part of your experience with your spirit helpers will be to get you more in touch with the truth of yourself, so expect yuk feelings to surface. As you’ll see, far more will go in between you and your spirit helpers during each experience that what will be readily apparent. Even if the whole thing is very easy for you to do, still each experience interacting with spirits is a highly impacting spiritual experience.
And finally, respect the spirits as you would respect any friend - as you would respect yourself.
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Post by James on Feb 27, 2014 15:47:25 GMT 10
Is Satan someone to really be scared of if you open up to and speak with spirits?
From The Urantia Book we gather the Evils Ones are Lucifer, Satan, Caligastia, Daligastia, these being higher spirits that were meant to help humanity evolve spiritually and grow in truth yet chose to rebel against Mary and Jesus and the Mother and Father.
These spirits (and you can you add their soulmates to the equation although they are not talked about in The Urantia Book) corrupted many angels who chose to work for them helping to lead humanity further astray and doing most of the dirty work; angels who also turned their backs on Mary and Jesus and the Mother and Father - the fallen angels.
All these rebellious spirits and angels wrought havoc on a naive and mostly primitive humanity, controlling people unseen from spirit by using all sorts of fear tactics and generally turning people against themselves by helping them understand that denying their true feelings was the way to go. So humanity chose to deny its feelings using its mind to take over rapidly progressing into darkness.
With Mary’s and Jesus’ coming to Earth, the Rebellion ended, in that such spirits other than the Caligastia’s and Daligastia’s could no longer control humanity, and apparently the Caligastia’s and Daligastia’s influence was severely curtailed as well.
And now, all the fallen angels have repented, and the Caligastia’s and Daligastia’s have also been banished to join the others in the prison sector of one of the mansion worlds. So all we’ve got left who can still affect humanity are people from Earth who are living in spirit. We have the ‘good’ Celestial spirits who’ve completed their healing and are no longer evil, and we have the ‘bad’ mind spirits, those spirits who are still wanting to progress in their negative state. And mostly it’s these mind spirits that link up with people who want to reach out and connect with spirits, because these people are also still wanting to further evolve their negative untrue states.
So there is nothing to fear like the Christians do, of being evilly influenced by the Devil or demons (fallen angels), should you make contact with spirits or angels.
Now not all people who have died and are now spirits living in the mind mansion worlds, just as when they were on Earth, want to hurt or intentionally lead people back on Earth further stray. However they fail to understand that because they are still denying their true feelings, inadvertently (by default) they are negatively affecting people on Earth, the same as most parents don’t want to intentionally hurt and harm and treat their children unlovingly, however still do unbeknownst (by default) to them, because they are living untrue to themselves denying many bad feelings. So just as children look to their parents for love and support, so too do many people look to the mind spirits, with neither understanding that whilst they are living untrue, they will only be helping each other to further that untruth.
And then there are of course mind spirits who do want to intentionally cause harm just as some people do on Earth. And should one desire it one can make contact with them, thereby getting in touch with what one might call an ‘evil’ spirit. But it is just the same as contacting a person who loves murdering and causing other people harm and striking up a relationship with them, looking to them for guidance, insights and greater understanding.
All such things as people being possessed by bad entities, bad spirits, evil spirits, poltergeists and the like, are all just these mind spirits who want to cause harm trying to influence those people on Earth open and receptive to them. And as to why some people would be open to them is what such people will have to find within themselves, which they would do if they embarked upon their healing. However for the most part as like attracts like, so you will draw to you such spirits who are like you, they being able to develop a rapport with your mind sharing many same beliefs and ways of looking at life.
Before I found the truth of the Divine Love, the spirits I spoke with went along with my erroneous beliefs, giving me names and even false identities as it turned out, all so they would be in keeping with what I wanted. Then once I started longing to God for the Divine Love and started to do my healing, they came to me and said now that you are wanting to live true, so we can reveal our true identities, giving me new names. And since then our relationship has continued to change as I’ve broken down my false beliefs and replaced them with true ones based on the truth that has resulted from my acceptance of my bad feelings and the healing of my childhood repression.
Many people will be working with Celestial spirits and longing for the Divine Love, however if they are not doing their Soul-Healing, then those Celestials will still have to abide by their negative mind patterns and false beliefs, as the Celestials will not impose themselves on us. So they will effectively keep helping such people evolve their negative state until they decide they’ve have enough of going the wrong way, and want to start living true to themselves through their feelings and not untrue through their mind.
The Christian’s insistence that anyone from the unseen worlds is Satan or one of his minions is absurd, for that would mean that everyone, including their dead relatives instantly becomes one of the Devil’s gang just because they died and are trying to make contact with their loved ones who are still on Earth. So their beloved parents, granny and gramps, perhaps even their own child who died before them, suddenly becomes one of Satan’s evil mob, simply because they died. It doesn’t make any sense.
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Post by James on Feb 27, 2014 15:51:53 GMT 10
Some examples of messages from typical mind spirits.The messages can be found on these websites.Who needs light?St.Germain and SanandaOn the autobiography page it says Sananda Kumara is Jesus’ soul-name, however to my understanding Jesus hasn’t as yet revealed his soul-name to humanity. And then he refers to the Heavenly Father as ‘Prime Creator’, which is an impersonal way to relate to God through the mind, and not as Jesus does, leading us to get to know God personally as our Father (and Mother) in Heaven all through our feelings.And Sananda and St.Germain say in their messages are typical of all the mind spirit stuff that fail to understand about longing to the Mother and Father for Their Divine Love and doing your soul-healing.AureliaWho is Jeshua - he says he is part of a larger consciousness who incarnated the Jesus or Jeshua part, and all the stuff about Christ consciousness, more mind spirit jargon with no truth to it.Channeling.netArchangel MichaelFrom The Urantia Book, these people, including the mind spirits they are talking with, get their wires crossed, as Michael refers to the name given to the Creator Sons, to Jesus (and Mary M), he being the type of soul called a Michael, a descending Son of God. There might in fact be an archangel with the name Michael, however how they are presenting themselves is as if this Archangel Michael is meant to actually be Gabriel who is the Bright and Morning Star who watched over Jesus and Mary when they were on Earth. And anyway, even if they are not meaning it to be Gabriel, so much of what’s said is not true and just more misleading mind stuff.
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Post by James on Mar 11, 2014 20:31:38 GMT 10
This is a reply to a question on Above Top Secret. I've added it here because so many people say they are in communication with ET's from other worlds, yet no one ever claims those ET's are speaking from their mansion worlds or in there spirit form, the ET's never talking about what happens to them when they die, because if they did, the mind spirits would then give the game away. So the so-called ET's people communicate with are as far as I'm concerned only mind spirits, which is why they never speak about the Divine Love or the need to do our Feeling- or Soul-Healing, because the mind spirits, aka aliens and ET's, don't know about that in their untrue states.
And although I deride the mind spirits, I also understand they are mostly well-meaning just as are many people on Earth, so many people genuinely wanting to help other people, only none of us understand we're only helping each other to further our negative states - our evilness, and really if we or the mind spirits did truly want to help, then we'd be encouraging each other to stop denying our bad feelings and to fully express them whilst seeking their truth.
Where do ET’s go when they die?
The Urantia Book says we, humanity, are living in rebellion against all that's true in Creation, the Rebellion being brought about by higher spirits that went astray many years ago.
Because we're in rebellion, which means, we live untrue to ourselves, so we're currently quarantined from the rest of Creation until we've fully healed our rebellion.
When we die we move into the mansion worlds, there being seven in total, there to remain until we've healed ourselves of our rebellion - living with our minds in control of our feelings, when it should be the other way around.
The seven mansion worlds are exclusively for us - humanity, no one else can be in them from other worlds because of our evilness.
Jesus informs us through the Padgett Messages that the mansion worlds are currently divided. If after we die we wish to remain in our rebellion and so evilness, with our mind in control as we live denying many of our bad feelings, we are free to live in the mind mansion worlds 1, 2, 4, 6. If however we want to heal ourselves of our feeling- and self-denial, end our evilness, then we have to do our Soul-Healing with the inclusion of longing to God for the Divine Love. (see: speaking with Mary Magdalene and Jesus)
If we do that we can move up through feeling mansion worlds 3, 5, and 7, until we're completely healed of our rebellion which then allows us entry into the Celestial spheres. We are then free to move out into Creation proper no longer having to be detained in the mansion worlds. Free to mix with spirits from all worlds.
All people on physical worlds move into mansion worlds upon their death. The Urantia Book says that many worlds share the same mansion worlds, however as I said, owing to our rebellion we don't join them, having to wait until we've fully healed ourselves thereby gaining entry into the Celestial spheres. And we don't have to wait until spirit to heal ourselves, we can begin it anytime by longing for the Divine Love and do our Soul-Healing. And the more we do of it now, the easier it will be for us in our spirits lives.
Because of our quarantine we're not allowed to have any input with or from other beings - other people or spirits from other worlds, so we can only speak with the spirits of humanity who want to continue their rebellion in the mind mansion worlds, or those spirits doing their healing in the feeling mansion worlds, and those who are healed and now Celestial spirits. All the people who claim to be speaking with beings from other worlds, aliens etc are only speaking with mind mansion world spirits from humanity. If you want to speak with beings from planet xyz, open up to them and the mind mansion world spirits will be more than willing to pretend they are alien beings from planet xyz.
The greatest conspiracy we live under is failing to understand that we're all in rebellion and so all our religions and spiritual systems are coming from mind mansion world spirits who don't want to heal themselves of their evilness - who, like us, don't even understand that they are living in rebellion. And many people will go to their grave ignorant of this, thereby themselves becoming mind spirits who will be more than happy to communicate with people back on Earth, even pretending to be alines if that's what those people want.
I hope this helps. If you want to read more about speaking with mind spirits and Celestials go here
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