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Post by James on Oct 28, 2017 20:26:13 GMT 10
James: Hello my dear Verna, it’s been such a long time since we’ve spoken.
Verna: I know it has James, you leaving me out on all the fun and games; really, I ask you, it’s not right!
James: All right Gran, so what about getting on answering Graham.
Verna: Don’t be rude, I will do it when I am ready... all right then, I am ready. Now Graham, you’ve got nothing to worry about, if you do the right thing by nature, such as your Biological Farming, then nature will benefit as will you. And of course to respect nature in how you interact with it, seeing all the creatures and the environment they live in as precious, and that you’re all in it together and need each other for optimum survival. To go off believing you know better than God is asking for problems, all of which you’re finding out for yourselves. You eat unhealthy food and suffer accordingly, it all being part of your repressed childhood state, with your un-nutritional diets helping to reflect the bad states you are in. Humanity will study nature and itself for hundreds of thousands of years and still NEVER understand all that is involved in your relationship with it and you with yourselves. You will never know, you can’t know, because by the time you get anywhere near what’s really going on, humanity will have outgrown the physical need to live on Earth. How does that sound James - impressive? You know I’m full such impressive images and statements of truth.
James: I know you are Verna, and you know I love them, that’s why you tell them all to me - isn’t it?
Verna: How right you are, of course it is, I don’t care about them, I’ve no need for them, I just watch as humanity makes a dogs breakfast of all it touches, wrecking nature, destroying the very land its trying to live from, really, you are so dense, and look how long it’s taking you to come back to your senses! Your senses have been bashed out of you by your parenting, so it’s going to be a long haul for you to ‘come home’. And when you do manage to give up all your truth-denying ways, then you’ll be more like the primitive people, closer and truer to nature, living communally and in small tribes, all loving being fully attentive to each other and all you’re feeling, all whilst completely living in harmony with the natural world. Oh and you’ve come such a long way with all your science, well you’d be better off studying, if you must study anything, the negative impact you have on everything because of living untrue to yourselves. Looking at it that you’re living rebelliously against all that is right, and then you might get closer to what you’re wrongly doing. See James, I am so full of good advice and wisdom, it’s just pours out of me, I’m not your average dumb old nature spirit - am I?
James: Not at all Verna, god no, never, you’re the smartest and brightest and you know everything.
Verna: That’s right, at least you’ve got that part of your wayward mind in order. Now, what’s Graham’s next question, I go a little off track getting carried away as you might have noticed. Now, were the Biological Farming methods helpful to us nature spirits, and were you talking with them Graham? Yes, you would have been talking with them if that was your intent. We are with you all the time, yes, mostly in the background, but nevertheless we are there and we know all you are thinking and feeling, so if that includes us, so we feel included. However that doesn’t mean we can just do what you want, as we can’t. We might like to at times, blast the socks of you by growing everything perfectly, but we have still have to adhere to the limitations imposed on us by the Rebellion and Default, which are reflected in how you are. So the truer you are, should you do your Healing, then the closer we can come and work with you. And for those who are Healed, then we can get down to some serious business if you want to include us in your lives. Your more nature-positive farming doesn’t actually help us specifically. No, you are not doing it for us, you’re doing it for yourselves. So as you help yourself, then we can help you more - that’s how it goes. Because we don’t need any help, we’re able to help ourselves, we don’t need you, we’re on the world for you, to help you, it’s all here to help you, everything currently exists in Creation to help ascending mortals start on their physical world and ascend to Paradise. And as you can ONLY do that by growing in truth through your feelings, so we are here to help you with that. And if you want to live denying that, going the other way and being unloving to yourself, then we’re here to help you do that. So we don’t prevent you doing what you want, although we can limit and... ok, at times we can prevent you, but mostly we don’t, mostly we move with you, and if you deny nature then we fade away as you no longer need as many of us involved with you, and so we move to other still natural parts of the world or we ‘die’, which means we move onto becoming angels. But if you look to nature and want to do the right thing by it, then we’ll gather around in greater numbers helping you in the ways that we can, even increasing in number if that is what is required. Next question? Radionics - was that a help? It’s better than no radionics and just the unfeeling way of farming, however it’s still too much of the mind. You are to ‘farm your feelings’ - do you like that one!, so look at it that way. Your feelings will tell you if how you are farming is making you feel good, you’ll love the whole experience, you’ll thrive in and with it, that is provided you can release yourself from your mind control. So the less technical and scientific and the more feeling you can be, the better. If you look to the plants to show you, take the need to make money out of the equation, and do it for your own pleasure with your survival as a secondary factor, then you’ll be able to sense the more subtle aspects to it all, all that come through your feelings and your very personal and intimate experience with all that you are doing. And everyone’s experience with their plants and the dirt will be different. It is all to help you have experiences to bring up the feelings necessary for you to uncover the truth. So not all experiences might be happy and good feeling ones, many might be bad, but you know how it is, what’s needed so you can Heal and progress. So Graham, relative to your level of truth at the time you were on the right track and doing the best you could. However as you grow in truth through your Healing, so too will your understanding of what you did before increase and expand, and so will your relationship with nature evolve. There, how’s that Graham and James, are you happy with those answers... too bad if you’re not because I’m not going to change them.
James: I wouldn’t dream of you changing them Verna. What are going to do now that you’ve finished with us?
Verna: Oh there are endless problems I have to attend to James. You think you’ve got things to worry about, we’ve got to address the endless pollution on the more subtle levels that your wayward lives leave us to deal with. And all this talk of more nuclear bombs, if you could see the destruction even your testing, even your thinking about the testing of them, causes, all of which someone has to attend to. And those people when their time comes to do their Healing are going to feel very bad for all the fear they caused along with all the damage to the world, they have no idea how much suffering they are inflicting on themselves as they subject everyone else to it. So we go into damage control, containing it within the parameters we’re allowed to, we working hand in hand with the angels. And if we didn’t do what we do, you’d have blown yourselves apart by now, which possibly might have been a good thing because you don’t see the full negative and unloving impact of such experiments because we limit them. It’s a bit of a Catch 22, but that is how it is, God wants it that way, so we all carry on. However Graham, we are SOOOOOO HHHAAAAPPPPYYYY that you are seeing the light. Every person who does means that much pressure is taken off us and nature, and we readily rejoice with you in your new found source of understanding. And even if you don’t do anything further directly with nature, at least your heart is moving in the right direction all the time, and that’s all that can be asked for. So good for you Graham, and should you need my illustrious services again, don’t hesitate to ask. James is a good typing slave, he’ll labour on typing all I want to say, won’t you James?
James: Of course Verna, how could I not record every bit of pearly wisdom that falls from your lips.
Verna: You’re full of shit James. I’m going now. SEE YA!
James: Aww I’m mortally wounded Verna by you sticking it to me. I feel so hurt, what are you saying that for?
Verna: Good, I hope you feel bad. I hope you all feel bad, because that’s what you’ve got to feel. It’s not use carrying on with all these fun and games, you’ve got to get on and be true to the bad, DO YOU HEAR ME - DON’T DENY ONE BAD FEELING, AND KEEP FEELING BAD, AND IF YOU DON’T THEN DO SOMETHING TO. AND I’LL HELP YOU. There, now you’ve got more bad feelings to work through James - see, aren’t I a great help! I said it all on purpose, more for you to work through, think of your mother James.
James: No, I’d rather not, however now you’ve stirred me up, so I will. Thanks a lot Verna.
Verna: Only too happy to help you James. I am going now and until the next time you deign to spend a little time with us lowly folks... and I do LOVE you James.
James: I understand Verna what you’re doing, I can feel it, more of the shock of having it all turned on me, I think it’s going one way and we’re having a nice time together, only to suddenly have it all turned on its head and I’m lost, I am distraught, I’m upset, that being what mum did to me all the time. Yes, I see Verna, and that’s how she threw all the psychic bricks in my face.
Verna: Exactly James, keep going, go deeper into it, there’s more for you to see. It’s the doing it in fun part, like it’s a big game in which you’re not allowed or meant to feel hurt, and yet it’s all hurtful, that’s how it was for you all, that’s what you’ve all got to understand and work through. And how hurtful, which your feelings will show you, just how very hurt you all are, right to the core of yourselves. And the shock of suddenly feeling such unexpected pain, that too is crushing and soul-destroying, and then you’re left in it, with nowhere to go, destroyed, having to somehow patch Humpty back together again as you go on. Frightful stuff James. Bye now - Verna.
James: I woke up feeling like I’d been punched in the left eye during the night, it’s hurt all day, it feels tender and hurts when I blink. I’ve had this ‘etheric burning’ feeling, it feels sore but not to the touch, many times in that eye and side of the face and all over other parts of my body. And with Verna working her number of me, and on talking my feelings through with Marion, it once again brings up for me how hurt I felt when things seemed to be going well with mum and then suddenly with no warning she turned on me. And how I’ve managed to prevent such hurtful feelings through my life by not paying attention to people picking up the subtle messages they are showing me, blocking them out and soldiering on, which all amounts to my punching them in the face and not respecting their feelings, so my doing the same that was done to me. Thanks Verna.
Nanna Beth: Graham, concerning the thump in your chest during the night, it was a psychological moment in which you took in the enormity of all that you’ve been doing between your reading about the truths and all John’s possibilities, as if it was ‘thumped’ into you. And at the same time, should you work it back into your early life, does it in anyway connect with anything else being thumped into you, anything of any significance? As with all one’s dreams, they are more to help you feel things, which you can express and seek the truth of, rather than relate any other meaning. The symbology is what you need because of how you grew up, but it’s not something that should be dwelt upon as so many people make the mistake of doing. So it’s not about ‘analysing’ one’s dreams, but working with any feels that result from them, either directly or indirectly. So how did the dream make you feel, when you were crying, can you expand more on that, and then afterwards - what, if any, feelings were you left with? And as your Healing progresses Graham, your dreams will become more feeling specific, that being generating more specific feelings for you with their subject matter becoming increasingly irrelevant. I hope this helps - Nanna Beth.
James: Hello my dear Verna, it’s been such a long time since we’ve spoken.
Verna: I know it has James, you leaving me out on all the fun and games; really, I ask you, it’s not right!
James: All right Gran, so what about getting on answering Graham.
Verna: Don’t be rude, I will do it when I am ready... all right then, I am ready. Now Graham, you’ve got nothing to worry about, if you do the right thing by nature, such as your Biological Farming, then nature will benefit as will you. And of course to respect nature in how you interact with it, seeing all the creatures and the environment they live in as precious, and that you’re all in it together and need each other for optimum survival. To go off believing you know better than God is asking for problems, all of which you’re finding out for yourselves. You eat unhealthy food and suffer accordingly, it all being part of your repressed childhood state, with your un-nutritional diets helping to reflect the bad states you are in. Humanity will study nature and itself for hundreds of thousands of years and still NEVER understand all that is involved in your relationship with it and you with yourselves. You will never know, you can’t know, because by the time you get anywhere near what’s really going on, humanity will have outgrown the physical need to live on Earth. How does that sound James - impressive? You know I’m full such impressive images and statements of truth.
James: I know you are Verna, and you know I love them, that’s why you tell them all to me - isn’t it?
Verna: How right you are, of course it is, I don’t care about them, I’ve no need for them, I just watch as humanity makes a dogs breakfast of all it touches, wrecking nature, destroying the very land its trying to live from, really, you are so dense, and look how long it’s taking you to come back to your senses! Your senses have been bashed out of you by your parenting, so it’s going to be a long haul for you to ‘come home’. And when you do manage to give up all your truth-denying ways, then you’ll be more like the primitive people, closer and truer to nature, living communally and in small tribes, all loving being fully attentive to each other and all you’re feeling, all whilst completely living in harmony with the natural world. Oh and you’ve come such a long way with all your science, well you’d be better off studying, if you must study anything, the negative impact you have on everything because of living untrue to yourselves. Looking at it that you’re living rebelliously against all that is right, and then you might get closer to what you’re wrongly doing. See James, I am so full of good advice and wisdom, it’s just pours out of me, I’m not your average dumb old nature spirit - am I?
James: Not at all Verna, god no, never, you’re the smartest and brightest and you know everything.
Verna: That’s right, at least you’ve got that part of your wayward mind in order. Now, what’s Graham’s next question, I go a little off track getting carried away as you might have noticed. Now, were the Biological Farming methods helpful to us nature spirits, and were you talking with them Graham? Yes, you would have been talking with them if that was your intent. We are with you all the time, yes, mostly in the background, but nevertheless we are there and we know all you are thinking and feeling, so if that includes us, so we feel included. However that doesn’t mean we can just do what you want, as we can’t. We might like to at times, blast the socks of you by growing everything perfectly, but we have still have to adhere to the limitations imposed on us by the Rebellion and Default, which are reflected in how you are. So the truer you are, should you do your Healing, then the closer we can come and work with you. And for those who are Healed, then we can get down to some serious business if you want to include us in your lives. Your more nature-positive farming doesn’t actually help us specifically. No, you are not doing it for us, you’re doing it for yourselves. So as you help yourself, then we can help you more - that’s how it goes. Because we don’t need any help, we’re able to help ourselves, we don’t need you, we’re on the world for you, to help you, it’s all here to help you, everything currently exists in Creation to help ascending mortals start on their physical world and ascend to Paradise. And as you can ONLY do that by growing in truth through your feelings, so we are here to help you with that. And if you want to live denying that, going the other way and being unloving to yourself, then we’re here to help you do that. So we don’t prevent you doing what you want, although we can limit and... ok, at times we can prevent you, but mostly we don’t, mostly we move with you, and if you deny nature then we fade away as you no longer need as many of us involved with you, and so we move to other still natural parts of the world or we ‘die’, which means we move onto becoming angels. But if you look to nature and want to do the right thing by it, then we’ll gather around in greater numbers helping you in the ways that we can, even increasing in number if that is what is required. Next question? Radionics - was that a help? It’s better than no radionics and just the unfeeling way of farming, however it’s still too much of the mind. You are to ‘farm your feelings’ - do you like that one!, so look at it that way. Your feelings will tell you if how you are farming is making you feel good, you’ll love the whole experience, you’ll thrive in and with it, that is provided you can release yourself from your mind control. So the less technical and scientific and the more feeling you can be, the better. If you look to the plants to show you, take the need to make money out of the equation, and do it for your own pleasure with your survival as a secondary factor, then you’ll be able to sense the more subtle aspects to it all, all that come through your feelings and your very personal and intimate experience with all that you are doing. And everyone’s experience with their plants and the dirt will be different. It is all to help you have experiences to bring up the feelings necessary for you to uncover the truth. So not all experiences might be happy and good feeling ones, many might be bad, but you know how it is, what’s needed so you can Heal and progress. So Graham, relative to your level of truth at the time you were on the right track and doing the best you could. However as you grow in truth through your Healing, so too will your understanding of what you did before increase and expand, and so will your relationship with nature evolve. There, how’s that Graham and James, are you happy with those answers... too bad if you’re not because I’m not going to change them.
James: I wouldn’t dream of you changing them Verna. What are going to do now that you’ve finished with us?
Verna: Oh there are endless problems I have to attend to James. You think you’ve got things to worry about, we’ve got to address the endless pollution on the more subtle levels that your wayward lives leave us to deal with. And all this talk of more nuclear bombs, if you could see the destruction even your testing, even your thinking about the testing of them, causes, all of which someone has to attend to. And those people when their time comes to do their Healing are going to feel very bad for all the fear they caused along with all the damage to the world, they have no idea how much suffering they are inflicting on themselves as they subject everyone else to it. So we go into damage control, containing it within the parameters we’re allowed to, we working hand in hand with the angels. And if we didn’t do what we do, you’d have blown yourselves apart by now, which possibly might have been a good thing because you don’t see the full negative and unloving impact of such experiments because we limit them. It’s a bit of a Catch 22, but that is how it is, God wants it that way, so we all carry on. However Graham, we are SOOOOOO HHHAAAAPPPPYYYY that you are seeing the light. Every person who does means that much pressure is taken off us and nature, and we readily rejoice with you in your new found source of understanding. And even if you don’t do anything further directly with nature, at least your heart is moving in the right direction all the time, and that’s all that can be asked for. So good for you Graham, and should you need my illustrious services again, don’t hesitate to ask. James is a good typing slave, he’ll labour on typing all I want to say, won’t you James?
James: Of course Verna, how could I not record every bit of pearly wisdom that falls from your lips.
Verna: You’re full of shit James. I’m going now. SEE YA!
James: Aww I’m mortally wounded Verna by you sticking it to me. I feel so hurt, what are you saying that for?
Verna: Good, I hope you feel bad. I hope you all feel bad, because that’s what you’ve got to feel. It’s not use carrying on with all these fun and games, you’ve got to get on and be true to the bad, DO YOU HEAR ME - DON’T DENY ONE BAD FEELING, AND KEEP FEELING BAD, AND IF YOU DON’T THEN DO SOMETHING TO. AND I’LL HELP YOU. There, now you’ve got more bad feelings to work through James - see, aren’t I a great help! I said it all on purpose, more for you to work through, think of your mother James.
James: No, I’d rather not, however now you’ve stirred me up, so I will. Thanks a lot Verna.
Verna: Only too happy to help you James. I am going now and until the next time you deign to spend a little time with us lowly folks... and I do LOVE you James.
James: I understand Verna what you’re doing, I can feel it, more of the shock of having it all turned on me, I think it’s going one way and we’re having a nice time together, only to suddenly have it all turned on its head and I’m lost, I am distraught, I’m upset, that being what mum did to me all the time. Yes, I see Verna, and that’s how she threw all the psychic bricks in my face.
Verna: Exactly James, keep going, go deeper into it, there’s more for you to see. It’s the doing it in fun part, like it’s a big game in which you’re not allowed or meant to feel hurt, and yet it’s all hurtful, that’s how it was for you all, that’s what you’ve all got to understand and work through. And how hurtful, which your feelings will show you, just how very hurt you all are, right to the core of yourselves. And the shock of suddenly feeling such unexpected pain, that too is crushing and soul-destroying, and then you’re left in it, with nowhere to go, destroyed, having to somehow patch Humpty back together again as you go on. Frightful stuff James. Bye now - Verna.
James: I woke up feeling like I’d been punched in the left eye during the night, it’s hurt all day, it feels tender and hurts when I blink. I’ve had this ‘etheric burning’ feeling, it feels sore but not to the touch, many times in that eye and side of the face and all over other parts of my body. And with Verna working her number of me, and on talking my feelings through with Marion, it once again brings up for me how hurt I felt when things seemed to be going well with mum and then suddenly with no warning she turned on me. And how I’ve managed to prevent such hurtful feelings through my life by not paying attention to people picking up the subtle messages they are showing me, blocking them out and soldiering on, which all amounts to my punching them in the face and not respecting their feelings, so my doing the same that was done to me. Thanks Verna.
Nanna Beth: Graham, concerning the thump in your chest during the night, it was a psychological moment in which you took in the enormity of all that you’ve been doing between your reading about the truths and all John’s possibilities, as if it was ‘thumped’ into you. And at the same time, should you work it back into your early life, does it in anyway connect with anything else being thumped into you, anything of any significance? As with all one’s dreams, they are more to help you feel things, which you can express and seek the truth of, rather than relate any other meaning. The symbology is what you need because of how you grew up, but it’s not something that should be dwelt upon as so many people make the mistake of doing. So it’s not about ‘analysing’ one’s dreams, but working with any feels that result from them, either directly or indirectly. So how did the dream make you feel, when you were crying, can you expand more on that, and then afterwards - what, if any, feelings were you left with? And as your Healing progresses Graham, your dreams will become more feeling specific, that being generating more specific feelings for you with their subject matter becoming increasingly irrelevant. I hope this helps - Nanna Beth. Graham Hi Verna
I am only just discovering these communications and am loving them. For around 10 years I was involved in the "Biological Farming" movement. Looking to build microbial diversity in the soil to develop a more sustainable agriculture system. Are the principals of biological farming founded in truth? Was I barking up the right tree? I had a few friends in the biological farming industry who taught me about Nature Spirits. I believed in them and used to ask for their help. Certain crops responded. Was I actually engaging with nature spirits? Were the biological farming practices helpful to the nature spirits? My friend Garry Hickey, who is now in spirit, and I used to use radionics to guide us to help create better environments for plants to thrive. Were the radionics methods we used really delivering sound Agronomic solutions? Is radionics a valid way to seek the truth of a plant's needs? Garry Hickey developed the Microlife product range. Using radionics, the products always tested positive as the best to be using to enhance plant vitality. I subsequently sold a lot of it. Did that range really deliver results or were we just selling “myth and magic”? I would love to understand if we were operating from a level of truth we purported to be. Thank you very much
James: Hello my dear Verna, it’s been such a long time since we’ve spoken.
Verna: I know it has James, you leaving me out on all the fun and games; really, I ask you, it’s not right!
James: All right Gran, so what about getting on answering Graham.
Verna: Don’t be rude, I will do it when I am ready... all right then, I am ready. Now Graham, you’ve got nothing to worry about, if you do the right thing by nature, such as your Biological Farming, then nature will benefit as will you. And of course to respect nature in how you interact with it, seeing all the creatures and the environment they live in as precious, and that you’re all in it together and need each other for optimum survival. To go off believing you know better than God is asking for problems, all of which you’re finding out for yourselves. You eat unhealthy food and suffer accordingly, it all being part of your repressed childhood state, with your un-nutritional diets helping to reflect the bad states you are in. Humanity will study nature and itself for hundreds of thousands of years and still NEVER understand all that is involved in your relationship with it and you with yourselves. You will never know, you can’t know, because by the time you get anywhere near what’s really going on, humanity will have outgrown the physical need to live on Earth. How does that sound James - impressive? You know I’m full such impressive images and statements of truth.
James: I know you are Verna, and you know I love them, that’s why you tell them all to me - isn’t it?
Verna: How right you are, of course it is, I don’t care about them, I’ve no need for them, I just watch as humanity makes a dogs breakfast of all it touches, wrecking nature, destroying the very land its trying to live from, really, you are so dense, and look how long it’s taking you to come back to your senses! Your senses have been bashed out of you by your parenting, so it’s going to be a long haul for you to ‘come home’. And when you do manage to give up all your truth-denying ways, then you’ll be more like the primitive people, closer and truer to nature, living communally and in small tribes, all loving being fully attentive to each other and all you’re feeling, all whilst completely living in harmony with the natural world. Oh and you’ve come such a long way with all your science, well you’d be better off studying, if you must study anything, the negative impact you have on everything because of living untrue to yourselves. Looking at it that you’re living rebelliously against all that is right, and then you might get closer to what you’re wrongly doing. See James, I am so full of good advice and wisdom, it’s just pours out of me, I’m not your average dumb old nature spirit - am I?
James: Not at all Verna, god no, never, you’re the smartest and brightest and you know everything.
Verna: That’s right, at least you’ve got that part of your wayward mind in order. Now, what’s Graham’s next question, I go a little off track getting carried away as you might have noticed. Now, were the Biological Farming methods helpful to us nature spirits, and were you talking with them Graham? Yes, you would have been talking with them if that was your intent. We are with you all the time, yes, mostly in the background, but nevertheless we are there and we know all you are thinking and feeling, so if that includes us, so we feel included. However that doesn’t mean we can just do what you want, as we can’t. We might like to at times, blast the socks of you by growing everything perfectly, but we have still have to adhere to the limitations imposed on us by the Rebellion and Default, which are reflected in how you are. So the truer you are, should you do your Healing, then the closer we can come and work with you. And for those who are Healed, then we can get down to some serious business if you want to include us in your lives. Your more nature-positive farming doesn’t actually help us specifically. No, you are not doing it for us, you’re doing it for yourselves. So as you help yourself, then we can help you more - that’s how it goes. Because we don’t need any help, we’re able to help ourselves, we don’t need you, we’re on the world for you, to help you, it’s all here to help you, everything currently exists in Creation to help ascending mortals start on their physical world and ascend to Paradise. And as you can ONLY do that by growing in truth through your feelings, so we are here to help you with that. And if you want to live denying that, going the other way and being unloving to yourself, then we’re here to help you do that. So we don’t prevent you doing what you want, although we can limit and... ok, at times we can prevent you, but mostly we don’t, mostly we move with you, and if you deny nature then we fade away as you no longer need as many of us involved with you, and so we move to other still natural parts of the world or we ‘die’, which means we move onto becoming angels. But if you look to nature and want to do the right thing by it, then we’ll gather around in greater numbers helping you in the ways that we can, even increasing in number if that is what is required. Next question? Radionics - was that a help? It’s better than no radionics and just the unfeeling way of farming, however it’s still too much of the mind. You are to ‘farm your feelings’ - do you like that one!, so look at it that way. Your feelings will tell you if how you are farming is making you feel good, you’ll love the whole experience, you’ll thrive in and with it, that is provided you can release yourself from your mind control. So the less technical and scientific and the more feeling you can be, the better. If you look to the plants to show you, take the need to make money out of the equation, and do it for your own pleasure with your survival as a secondary factor, then you’ll be able to sense the more subtle aspects to it all, all that come through your feelings and your very personal and intimate experience with all that you are doing. And everyone’s experience with their plants and the dirt will be different. It is all to help you have experiences to bring up the feelings necessary for you to uncover the truth. So not all experiences might be happy and good feeling ones, many might be bad, but you know how it is, what’s needed so you can Heal and progress. So Graham, relative to your level of truth at the time you were on the right track and doing the best you could. However as you grow in truth through your Healing, so too will your understanding of what you did before increase and expand, and so will your relationship with nature evolve. There, how’s that Graham and James, are you happy with those answers... too bad if you’re not because I’m not going to change them.
James: I wouldn’t dream of you changing them Verna. What are going to do now that you’ve finished with us?
Verna: Oh there are endless problems I have to attend to James. You think you’ve got things to worry about, we’ve got to address the endless pollution on the more subtle levels that your wayward lives leave us to deal with. And all this talk of more nuclear bombs, if you could see the destruction even your testing, even your thinking about the testing of them, causes, all of which someone has to attend to. And those people when their time comes to do their Healing are going to feel very bad for all the fear they caused along with all the damage to the world, they have no idea how much suffering they are inflicting on themselves as they subject everyone else to it. So we go into damage control, containing it within the parameters we’re allowed to, we working hand in hand with the angels. And if we didn’t do what we do, you’d have blown yourselves apart by now, which possibly might have been a good thing because you don’t see the full negative and unloving impact of such experiments because we limit them. It’s a bit of a Catch 22, but that is how it is, God wants it that way, so we all carry on. However Graham, we are SOOOOOO HHHAAAAPPPPYYYY that you are seeing the light. Every person who does means that much pressure is taken off us and nature, and we readily rejoice with you in your new found source of understanding. And even if you don’t do anything further directly with nature, at least your heart is moving in the right direction all the time, and that’s all that can be asked for. So good for you Graham, and should you need my illustrious services again, don’t hesitate to ask. James is a good typing slave, he’ll labour on typing all I want to say, won’t you James?
James: Of course Verna, how could I not record every bit of pearly wisdom that falls from your lips.
Verna: You’re full of shit James. I’m going now. SEE YA!
James: Aww I’m mortally wounded Verna by you sticking it to me. I feel so hurt, what are you saying that for?
Verna: Good, I hope you feel bad. I hope you all feel bad, because that’s what you’ve got to feel. It’s not use carrying on with all these fun and games, you’ve got to get on and be true to the bad, DO YOU HEAR ME - DON’T DENY ONE BAD FEELING, AND KEEP FEELING BAD, AND IF YOU DON’T THEN DO SOMETHING TO. AND I’LL HELP YOU. There, now you’ve got more bad feelings to work through James - see, aren’t I a great help! I said it all on purpose, more for you to work through, think of your mother James.
James: No, I’d rather not, however now you’ve stirred me up, so I will. Thanks a lot Verna.
Verna: Only too happy to help you James. I am going now and until the next time you deign to spend a little time with us lowly folks... and I do LOVE you James.
James: I understand Verna what you’re doing, I can feel it, more of the shock of having it all turned on me, I think it’s going one way and we’re having a nice time together, only to suddenly have it all turned on its head and I’m lost, I am distraught, I’m upset, that being what mum did to me all the time. Yes, I see Verna, and that’s how she threw all the psychic bricks in my face.
Verna: Exactly James, keep going, go deeper into it, there’s more for you to see. It’s the doing it in fun part, like it’s a big game in which you’re not allowed or meant to feel hurt, and yet it’s all hurtful, that’s how it was for you all, that’s what you’ve all got to understand and work through. And how hurtful, which your feelings will show you, just how very hurt you all are, right to the core of yourselves. And the shock of suddenly feeling such unexpected pain, that too is crushing and soul-destroying, and then you’re left in it, with nowhere to go, destroyed, having to somehow patch Humpty back together again as you go on. Frightful stuff James. Bye now - Verna.
James: I woke up feeling like I’d been punched in the left eye during the night, it’s hurt all day, it feels tender and hurts when I blink. I’ve had this ‘etheric burning’ feeling, it feels sore but not to the touch, many times in that eye and side of the face and all over other parts of my body. And with Verna working her number of me, and on talking my feelings through with Marion, it once again brings up for me how hurt I felt when things seemed to be going well with mum and then suddenly with no warning she turned on me. And how I’ve managed to prevent such hurtful feelings through my life by not paying attention to people picking up the subtle messages they are showing me, blocking them out and soldiering on, which all amounts to my punching them in the face and not respecting their feelings, so my doing the same that was done to me. Thanks Verna.
Nanna Beth: Graham, concerning the thump in your chest during the night, it was a psychological moment in which you took in the enormity of all that you’ve been doing between your reading about the truths and all John’s possibilities, as if it was ‘thumped’ into you. And at the same time, should you work it back into your early life, does it in anyway connect with anything else being thumped into you, anything of any significance? As with all one’s dreams, they are more to help you feel things, which you can express and seek the truth of, rather than relate any other meaning. The symbology is what you need because of how you grew up, but it’s not something that should be dwelt upon as so many people make the mistake of doing. So it’s not about ‘analysing’ one’s dreams, but working with any feels that result from them, either directly or indirectly. So how did the dream make you feel, when you were crying, can you expand more on that, and then afterwards - what, if any, feelings were you left with? And as your Healing progresses Graham, your dreams will become more feeling specific, that being generating more specific feelings for you with their subject matter becoming increasingly irrelevant. I hope this helps - Nanna Beth.
James: Hello my dear Verna, it’s been such a long time since we’ve spoken.
Verna: I know it has James, you leaving me out on all the fun and games; really, I ask you, it’s not right!
James: All right Gran, so what about getting on answering Graham.
Verna: Don’t be rude, I will do it when I am ready... all right then, I am ready. Now Graham, you’ve got nothing to worry about, if you do the right thing by nature, such as your Biological Farming, then nature will benefit as will you. And of course to respect nature in how you interact with it, seeing all the creatures and the environment they live in as precious, and that you’re all in it together and need each other for optimum survival. To go off believing you know better than God is asking for problems, all of which you’re finding out for yourselves. You eat unhealthy food and suffer accordingly, it all being part of your repressed childhood state, with your un-nutritional diets helping to reflect the bad states you are in. Humanity will study nature and itself for hundreds of thousands of years and still NEVER understand all that is involved in your relationship with it and you with yourselves. You will never know, you can’t know, because by the time you get anywhere near what’s really going on, humanity will have outgrown the physical need to live on Earth. How does that sound James - impressive? You know I’m full such impressive images and statements of truth.
James: I know you are Verna, and you know I love them, that’s why you tell them all to me - isn’t it?
Verna: How right you are, of course it is, I don’t care about them, I’ve no need for them, I just watch as humanity makes a dogs breakfast of all it touches, wrecking nature, destroying the very land its trying to live from, really, you are so dense, and look how long it’s taking you to come back to your senses! Your senses have been bashed out of you by your parenting, so it’s going to be a long haul for you to ‘come home’. And when you do manage to give up all your truth-denying ways, then you’ll be more like the primitive people, closer and truer to nature, living communally and in small tribes, all loving being fully attentive to each other and all you’re feeling, all whilst completely living in harmony with the natural world. Oh and you’ve come such a long way with all your science, well you’d be better off studying, if you must study anything, the negative impact you have on everything because of living untrue to yourselves. Looking at it that you’re living rebelliously against all that is right, and then you might get closer to what you’re wrongly doing. See James, I am so full of good advice and wisdom, it’s just pours out of me, I’m not your average dumb old nature spirit - am I?
James: Not at all Verna, god no, never, you’re the smartest and brightest and you know everything.
Verna: That’s right, at least you’ve got that part of your wayward mind in order. Now, what’s Graham’s next question, I go a little off track getting carried away as you might have noticed. Now, were the Biological Farming methods helpful to us nature spirits, and were you talking with them Graham? Yes, you would have been talking with them if that was your intent. We are with you all the time, yes, mostly in the background, but nevertheless we are there and we know all you are thinking and feeling, so if that includes us, so we feel included. However that doesn’t mean we can just do what you want, as we can’t. We might like to at times, blast the socks of you by growing everything perfectly, but we have still have to adhere to the limitations imposed on us by the Rebellion and Default, which are reflected in how you are. So the truer you are, should you do your Healing, then the closer we can come and work with you. And for those who are Healed, then we can get down to some serious business if you want to include us in your lives. Your more nature-positive farming doesn’t actually help us specifically. No, you are not doing it for us, you’re doing it for yourselves. So as you help yourself, then we can help you more - that’s how it goes. Because we don’t need any help, we’re able to help ourselves, we don’t need you, we’re on the world for you, to help you, it’s all here to help you, everything currently exists in Creation to help ascending mortals start on their physical world and ascend to Paradise. And as you can ONLY do that by growing in truth through your feelings, so we are here to help you with that. And if you want to live denying that, going the other way and being unloving to yourself, then we’re here to help you do that. So we don’t prevent you doing what you want, although we can limit and... ok, at times we can prevent you, but mostly we don’t, mostly we move with you, and if you deny nature then we fade away as you no longer need as many of us involved with you, and so we move to other still natural parts of the world or we ‘die’, which means we move onto becoming angels. But if you look to nature and want to do the right thing by it, then we’ll gather around in greater numbers helping you in the ways that we can, even increasing in number if that is what is required. Next question? Radionics - was that a help? It’s better than no radionics and just the unfeeling way of farming, however it’s still too much of the mind. You are to ‘farm your feelings’ - do you like that one!, so look at it that way. Your feelings will tell you if how you are farming is making you feel good, you’ll love the whole experience, you’ll thrive in and with it, that is provided you can release yourself from your mind control. So the less technical and scientific and the more feeling you can be, the better. If you look to the plants to show you, take the need to make money out of the equation, and do it for your own pleasure with your survival as a secondary factor, then you’ll be able to sense the more subtle aspects to it all, all that come through your feelings and your very personal and intimate experience with all that you are doing. And everyone’s experience with their plants and the dirt will be different. It is all to help you have experiences to bring up the feelings necessary for you to uncover the truth. So not all experiences might be happy and good feeling ones, many might be bad, but you know how it is, what’s needed so you can Heal and progress. So Graham, relative to your level of truth at the time you were on the right track and doing the best you could. However as you grow in truth through your Healing, so too will your understanding of what you did before increase and expand, and so will your relationship with nature evolve. There, how’s that Graham and James, are you happy with those answers... too bad if you’re not because I’m not going to change them.
James: I wouldn’t dream of you changing them Verna. What are going to do now that you’ve finished with us?
Verna: Oh there are endless problems I have to attend to James. You think you’ve got things to worry about, we’ve got to address the endless pollution on the more subtle levels that your wayward lives leave us to deal with. And all this talk of more nuclear bombs, if you could see the destruction even your testing, even your thinking about the testing of them, causes, all of which someone has to attend to. And those people when their time comes to do their Healing are going to feel very bad for all the fear they caused along with all the damage to the world, they have no idea how much suffering they are inflicting on themselves as they subject everyone else to it. So we go into damage control, containing it within the parameters we’re allowed to, we working hand in hand with the angels. And if we didn’t do what we do, you’d have blown yourselves apart by now, which possibly might have been a good thing because you don’t see the full negative and unloving impact of such experiments because we limit them. It’s a bit of a Catch 22, but that is how it is, God wants it that way, so we all carry on. However Graham, we are SOOOOOO HHHAAAAPPPPYYYY that you are seeing the light. Every person who does means that much pressure is taken off us and nature, and we readily rejoice with you in your new found source of understanding. And even if you don’t do anything further directly with nature, at least your heart is moving in the right direction all the time, and that’s all that can be asked for. So good for you Graham, and should you need my illustrious services again, don’t hesitate to ask. James is a good typing slave, he’ll labour on typing all I want to say, won’t you James?
James: Of course Verna, how could I not record every bit of pearly wisdom that falls from your lips.
Verna: You’re full of shit James. I’m going now. SEE YA!
James: Aww I’m mortally wounded Verna by you sticking it to me. I feel so hurt, what are you saying that for?
Verna: Good, I hope you feel bad. I hope you all feel bad, because that’s what you’ve got to feel. It’s not use carrying on with all these fun and games, you’ve got to get on and be true to the bad, DO YOU HEAR ME - DON’T DENY ONE BAD FEELING, AND KEEP FEELING BAD, AND IF YOU DON’T THEN DO SOMETHING TO. AND I’LL HELP YOU. There, now you’ve got more bad feelings to work through James - see, aren’t I a great help! I said it all on purpose, more for you to work through, think of your mother James.
James: No, I’d rather not, however now you’ve stirred me up, so I will. Thanks a lot Verna.
Verna: Only too happy to help you James. I am going now and until the next time you deign to spend a little time with us lowly folks... and I do LOVE you James.
James: I understand Verna what you’re doing, I can feel it, more of the shock of having it all turned on me, I think it’s going one way and we’re having a nice time together, only to suddenly have it all turned on its head and I’m lost, I am distraught, I’m upset, that being what mum did to me all the time. Yes, I see Verna, and that’s how she threw all the psychic bricks in my face.
Verna: Exactly James, keep going, go deeper into it, there’s more for you to see. It’s the doing it in fun part, like it’s a big game in which you’re not allowed or meant to feel hurt, and yet it’s all hurtful, that’s how it was for you all, that’s what you’ve all got to understand and work through. And how hurtful, which your feelings will show you, just how very hurt you all are, right to the core of yourselves. And the shock of suddenly feeling such unexpected pain, that too is crushing and soul-destroying, and then you’re left in it, with nowhere to go, destroyed, having to somehow patch Humpty back together again as you go on. Frightful stuff James. Bye now - Verna.
James: I woke up feeling like I’d been punched in the left eye during the night, it’s hurt all day, it feels tender and hurts when I blink. I’ve had this ‘etheric burning’ feeling, it feels sore but not to the touch, many times in that eye and side of the face and all over other parts of my body. And with Verna working her number of me, and on talking my feelings through with Marion, it once again brings up for me how hurt I felt when things seemed to be going well with mum and then suddenly with no warning she turned on me. And how I’ve managed to prevent such hurtful feelings through my life by not paying attention to people picking up the subtle messages they are showing me, blocking them out and soldiering on, which all amounts to my punching them in the face and not respecting their feelings, so my doing the same that was done to me. Thanks Verna.
Nanna Beth: Graham, concerning the thump in your chest during the night, it was a psychological moment in which you took in the enormity of all that you’ve been doing between your reading about the truths and all John’s possibilities, as if it was ‘thumped’ into you. And at the same time, should you work it back into your early life, does it in anyway connect with anything else being thumped into you, anything of any significance? As with all one’s dreams, they are more to help you feel things, which you can express and seek the truth of, rather than relate any other meaning. The symbology is what you need because of how you grew up, but it’s not something that should be dwelt upon as so many people make the mistake of doing. So it’s not about ‘analysing’ one’s dreams, but working with any feels that result from them, either directly or indirectly. So how did the dream make you feel, when you were crying, can you expand more on that, and then afterwards - what, if any, feelings were you left with? And as your Healing progresses Graham, your dreams will become more feeling specific, that being generating more specific feelings for you with their subject matter becoming increasingly irrelevant. I hope this helps - Nanna Beth.
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