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Post by James on Sept 23, 2014 19:37:47 GMT 10
Live true to our feelings; and long for the Divine Love. That's all we need to know.
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Post by wesley on Dec 22, 2014 4:37:11 GMT 10
How it works. My degraded life was all vanity. Forced upon me for years. Just being tortured. Finding all about it through my feelings. My wife finally express the yuk she felt about her parents. And James I took a page out of your book and ask her how does it make you feel and she felt the yuk come up in her. Everything was there for her to work on but she didn't see it. But now she is doing her feeling healing gradually. It's good for me also because I can express more of the Mother part of our life. Not putting it all to our Father. I feel the ignorance of both my parents as small rotating circle getting weaker and weaker as I go into my feelings and pains and suffering. My wife is seeing what I express about why I am the way I am. And I realized that now I am getting the feeling and trying to know her through being a child myself. Instead of looking at her as acting like my mom. Being angry at her because of seeing my mom just trying to control me. And what can I say about the Father. The Father expression toward me is better. I still pray for the Love and seems that the Father is so happy for me to seek out the Mother whom I found out by James and Samantha because as I read about feelings I always understand completely what you both write about. It seems that you all are taking me along with you. I see myself walking along side. Nothing like it in the world. Keeps me longing and longing for more Truth.
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Post by James on Dec 22, 2014 22:08:27 GMT 10
“My degraded life was all vanity.” Wow Wes, what an opening line for a novel! One could start with that opening then go off into the unplumbed dark depths of human misery expanding out in all directions covering our complete evilness.
I’m glad you’re feeling good about your wife looking into her yuk. I still see mum in all Marion does and it shit it gives me the shits. It’s as if Marion doesn’t even exist, it’s still all mum, mum is completely surrounding me, and then dad and my grandparents around her, and I am still inside the womb. There’s no escape - that’s how I’ve been feeling of late.
And you know it’s good, if you can with your wife, agree to be angry with each other, allowing each other to express and vent all the vile rotten stuff, whilst knowing it’s not actually the other person you are angry with, even though you are directing it at them, that it’s really your parents. That’s been very hard for me with Marion, just to go for it telling her how bad and wrong I think she is and being so angry with her; but it’s so good getting it all out and then working through it so that it’s no longer Marion I’m angry with, but mum or even dad.
And I like that Wes about you feeling the Father is happy with you seeking out the Mother.
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Post by wesley on Dec 23, 2014 23:40:48 GMT 10
And that was my 45 years of living or so called living. Both parents taking jabs at me when they so called wanted. My mom just tormenting my single life. Asking the women questions about me and telling them things of my childhood. Not even caring how I felt about the things I couldn't dispute. Still she says things to my wife. Just feeling all the degraded hatred they had for me as soon as I was born. As if I was chosen as the lab rat in the family. I can see just how the family fits the cult description very clearly now. No one cares at all how you feel they would just laugh in your face about "Feelings". No such thing in my family. As a matter of fact it's best to fall in line and just eat and try to be merry. And wow with the 6 years of praying for the Father's love the year of soul healing really is more of the eye opener for me. All of the angry feelings I let go and ignored because of them using me behind my back. I could see how family members would ask me questions about me where I know my mom must have told them. She is a busy body. Not any more because I don't share any information with them anymore. No more exploiting me anymore. Or that quiet Wes whom they can say or do anything they feel they want to. I coming out of my tomb. And healing every day and night because I have caught the culprits the ones in our own household. Always waiting to attack like wolves.
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Post by James on Dec 24, 2014 15:38:29 GMT 10
Wes, what would you say are the biggest changes for you this year? How have you changed?
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Post by wesley on Dec 25, 2014 3:15:07 GMT 10
Knowing the Truth of who I am in such a big way. There is so much info on spirituality these days one moment you follow this and that and loose faith in many things. Everything sounds true and good but for me that was never there. To be happy about understanding fluff. Because my feelings in the end quickly showed me "what's next". For instance trying to be one with God. And doing it through the mind. Leaving my feelings to the wolves. And now for me I am prepared and whole to continue my healing thanks to the union of both the Mother and Father. No one that comes across these spiritual parents of ours could not deny the validity of them. Certainly not me. It's also very good that I'm open enough to conversations with my spiritual friend. That helps a lot. But sometimes she makes me feel to good so I try to keep our conversations limited. Oh I also spoke to Verna briefly. And I look out the Window at work and I saw a tree waving back and forth as if it was waving at me. And it Wasn't a windy day. Now I put everything in perspective and see if healing was the only way and for sure it is for me. This year and some months has passed and I never FELT so assured of healing myself. I don't have to sit back and wait for transformation and wondering if I am. Knowing all these feelings are coming through like wild fire. And the few of us I guess was meant to be in this era to be so involved with our healing. It's the only way and I've changed from living in my mind to living through all my feelings.
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Post by James on Dec 25, 2014 22:39:31 GMT 10
“It's also very good that I'm open enough to conversations with my spiritual friend. That helps a lot. But sometimes she makes me feel to good so I try to keep our conversations limited. Oh I also spoke to Verna briefly.” Who is your spiritual friend - does she have a name, and what sort of things do you speak with her about? And how and when did you start speaking with her? And I admire how you don’t want to get too carried away with good feelings so they don’t distract you too much whilst you’ve still got to keep focused on the bad ones. And you spoke to Verna, what did she say? I wonder if she’s the same with you as she is with me?
“This year and some months has passed and I never FELT so assured of healing myself. I don't have to sit back and wait for transformation and wondering if I am. Knowing all these feelings are coming through like wild fire.” I love how you say things Wes. And what you say. “And now for me I am prepared and whole to continue my healing thanks to the union of both the Mother and Father. No one that comes across these spiritual parents of ours could not deny the validity of them. Certainly not me.”
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Post by Sam on Dec 26, 2014 0:09:36 GMT 10
I really enjoyed reading what you have written Wesley and about the tree waving at you, how beautiful and to read that filled me with great feelings that I feel so strongly when nature constantly shows me its wonders. I was sitting in the grounds of my shop back in the summer and I felt drenched in love and looked over to the tree opposite me and a whole bough bowed down to me and I bowed down back to it, wow, such a moment. I had a wonderful experience last night to as my daughter wasn't very well and she had a bad headache so I asked the beautiful nature spirits and all of her helpers to help her to express to me her pain and I saw them come in, I was telling her and my friend Trevor what I was seeing, bright blue moving shapes, the beautifulest blue I have ever experienced and I was telling her about them and took a photo and there they were all around her, she said that it was magical. It was a beautiful wonder to me. My experiences with Angels and Nature spirits and other spirits are changing and becoming clearer, all a great wonderment and as I am becoming purer in my healing my experiences are becoming clearer but then again another day when I am deep in it all and feeling extreme pain, there is noting so beautiful, just pain and bad feelings to express and it doesn't seem possible to have experienced anything beautiful.
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Post by wesley on Dec 26, 2014 16:20:32 GMT 10
Yes. I always felt some one special around me in my teens. I always spoke about it when events happened to me. I used to say on many occasions that it was someone else that helped me move through some situations in my life. But I had no way of going to the point of communication because I didn't know anything of the sort. It was when I found the Padgett messages that I tried to communicate. And right away the words became about. I was questioning everything she was saying to me. I asked her name but she only told me that she was my soul mate. When I started to understand more clearly was when the words that flowed through me was nothing that I would have said nor was enlighten enough to create on my own. We talked about everything but oddly not the Father's Love. I was just so excited that every day questions I had were our conversations. Our questions were about every day events. My fears, places, and things. It is more of getting know each other. And about Verna I was only holding her name in my thoughts only. And she directed my eyes toward the window that's when I saw the tree. And thank you Samantha for your comment because I enjoy nature so much as well.
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Post by James on Dec 26, 2014 20:55:48 GMT 10
Thank you Wes for telling us about your soulmate speaking with you.
The holiday people are arriving en masse, and out come the chainsaws. So many beautiful trees have gone since we moved down here, more every day so it seems. A few new ones are planted, but the view of the bay - must have a view of the water - takes priority. There's a huge turnover of holiday houses. One lot might plant trees and shrubs only for the next lot to pull them all out and concrete their driveway and yards. I always feel so miserable about it, like the core of me is being taken to with the chainsaw. Since the last big bush fires some years ago the mentality seems to have shifted to anti trees from being pro trees some years before. Now it seems like so many people are so scared of fires, with the government fuelling their biggest fears, so anything within metres of a house is removed with council blessing.
Something white caught my attention coming at me as was walking on the beach this afternoon. It was a tern flying at head height directly toward me. It was labouring away in the light breeze on its way back to the Nobbies, its breeding site a few kilometres further up the beach. It was heading, so it seemed, straight for my head then veered away a few metres from me so I could clearly see it was carrying a large garfish in its beak. The beautiful aquamarine and deep emerald ocean green cigar-shaped fish was hanging down, it being about 20cm long, and I laughed to myself imagining the surprise the baby tern will have with mum or dad turning up with such a big mouthful, probably to be stuffed down in one go… or maybe they will both share such a bounty together. Usually the terns are heading back to their nests higher in the sky and with a mouthful of much smaller fish. At least no one like Joe public can get out to their nesting sites, they being on a small island just off the mainland.
Wes, has your love of nature increased since you've been doing your healing? And can you explain how so if it has?
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Post by James on Dec 26, 2014 21:12:13 GMT 10
Sam and Wes, do you ever get angry with the Mother and Father for making you feel so bad?
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Post by wesley on Dec 27, 2014 16:54:33 GMT 10
Yes my love for nature became very extraordinary during my healing. Knowing that nature continues on and on. And plus I see the true colors and beauty of it all as man puts the evil stamp upon it. I look at it as still standing strong underneath all the pollution. Even though I think sometimes how is it possible to destroy something by turning the very properties against itself. Everything created by man comes from the earth itself. The creatures are our little neighbors and they are so perfect and true. No bad feelings to deal with. Still some fresh air still lingers about. And more so during my healing. My anger does come up toward the Father and Mother but I always tend to turn it towards me. Always thinking maybe if I wouldn't done so many evil things in my own life the finger wouldn't be pointed toward my own faults.
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Post by James on Dec 27, 2014 20:33:31 GMT 10
But the Mother and Father made you do those bad things Wes - does that make you feel anything?
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Post by Sam on Dec 28, 2014 5:33:53 GMT 10
I have been through rage with Mother and Father and such disappointment even to the point of having to tell myself they didn't exist to me, how could they, I denied them in my anger and rage. I was in such a state of despair that I was barely existing and no one was saving me, not my physical parents or God, no one existed to me at that time because no one could help me, I kept asking for help but nothing came, I went unheard and felt totally forsaken by all, I always felt that I was meant for something, which I know sound arrogant but I truly had that feeling inside me but it was shattered as my inner and outer worlds took a turn and those feelings went, there was nothing good and my saviour became Anti-Depressants. I now know that all through those awful times God never left me but brought all of those awful experiences and events to me to show me the truth of the condition of my soul, of just how bad and denied my feelings were/are and I was doing all I could to deny the truth and hide and repress my bad feelings but they were manifesting as the worst of physical and mental symptoms and it was these symptoms that I was trying to medicate and get rid of instead of the cause emotions that were supressed in my soul expressing through my spiritual and physical bodies, I had no understanding of any of it then. I think Forsaken is the right word for how I felt a total breakdown of every illusion until nothing good was left even what I thought God to be, it all had to go and Mother and Father knew that, all of my erroneous beliefs had to go, but it took most of my life, I have spent my whole life experience breaking down and I have never said that before and it has made me very emotional so I will stop there as I need to express that deep pain that I am feeling.
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Post by wesley on Dec 28, 2014 6:13:03 GMT 10
Yes it makes me very angry at the Father and Mother. Feeling all those bad feelings caused by them and my mom and dad. My wife and I just the other night always goes to that cusp of "what is this life all about and what is really going to happen ". My wife is so angry that she doesn't want to even here the word God because of its religious implications. And what gets us more angry is every one who achieve any type of earthly reward always claims that God blessed them. While the rest of us suffer in the dust of life. Constantly moving in the wrong being set up for us to experience and with no end in sight. Instilled with all the lies created and false beliefs. Then hearing the wrath of God angry at us because our lives are full of evil and sin. Ok I'll accept their anger against me because I will refuse what was instilled in me. I won't believe in any pastor or religious organization. Leave me all alone in my small understanding of my world. Giving us these horrible parents. Yes just drop us off with the worst caretakers there ever were. Questioning every decision that I ever made. Nothing right all is wrong. Why do the children suffer the most. I always wonder how the Father and Mother let this be our first steps taking on this earth. They have their plans and we will just have to grind it out until that day. And now decades later Divine Love appears to appease our egos. Puff my evil to a more faster rate until you figure there is no transformation going on. And here is a lesson stop falling for everything. Stop being a fool for God. Go back to the beginning of it all and just disregard all the steps you made. It's all mind control. You are so controlled by it and now by some crazy moment you feel something is not right. And by some chance realizing these horrible feelings you make that hard decision to set aside Divine Love to figure out that something is Majorly wrong with this path. Or how I'm going about it. Back to struggle over and over again. And yet that's all we have. Nothing more to see here you've seen it all and it's all wrong and bad.
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Post by samantha9 on Dec 28, 2014 7:51:33 GMT 10
I am back now. I now feel no hate towards Mother and Father as I am growing to understand their communication with me and I only feel pain when I am out of harmony with them, out of love with them, as their Law of Attraction is an aspect of their communication to me every minute of every day showing and bringing to me what I need to heal within my soul, the events I experience are a reflection of my soul condition so I am seeing where I am in or out of harmony with them and from this I can see I have spent my whole life being out of harmony and so experienced so much suffering until I began to get it! There was me thinking I knew best, better than them, just like my parents taught me, Just as the First Parents taught us all. I feel if I want to be as perfected in my soul condition as I can then to be at one with them, then my way will never get me there, for me The New Way is Gods Way and I no longer want to Deny or Rebel against it and through my experimenting with the Laws they have created for us and understanding how they operate in our lives, that can only come from love but that has only come from a place of deep desire within me too have a relationship with Mother and Father, Mary and Jesus, beginning with my passion to know more about Mary when I was 15. Even with the Death of my Husband I understand that everyone there on that day had a soul attraction to experience that event to heal the severity of our injuries within our souls and our unloving pain, all of us having similar injuries within us, Gods Law of Attraction showing us our unloving soul conditions and bringing us the opportunity to heal if we are aware of it. I am now feeling that everyone we meet, including partners, husbands and wives, we meet through our similar soul injuries and love has nothing to do with it as we are all so much in denial and do not know love and if our soul leads the way then we must attract people with similar injuries as ours so we meet through pain not love and bring that pain out in each other so no relationship can work on those basis, unless we are aware and want to heal through the feelings brought up. I no longer feel rage or hate towards them and I am now beginning to feel them with me giving me just what I need to enable me to heal with their help, as I understand more about their Laws I understand more about how that love holds the whole universe together, how nature doesn't fight or rebel against them, lives in perfect harmony with their laws, so has no struggle or suffering as we do and as we prove, we have used our free will to go against love, God so we live in the mess we have created. My whole life has been an experiment of that and how living against God can never work, I am living proof as we all are.
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Post by James on Dec 28, 2014 21:26:13 GMT 10
Wes: “what is this life all about and what is really going to happen”
“I always wonder how the Father and Mother let this be our first steps taking on this earth.” Have you asked Them these questions? Not that you have to or should do, I’m just curious if you have and what They said to you.
“Nothing more to see here you've seen it all and it's all wrong and bad.” Yeah, I like that.
Sam: “I am now feeling that everyone we meet, including partners, husbands and wives, we meet through our similar soul injuries and love has nothing to do with it as we are all so much in denial and do not know love and if our soul leads the way then we must attract people with similar injuries as ours so we meet through pain not love and bring that pain out in each other...”
Yes, what you say is true, it is what brings us together only we don’t understand the deeper significance of that. I can see it as I look back over my past and pre-Marion relationships, each one based on shared pain, but which we were denying. Then with Marion, every day we see just how much we are really the same, it’s quite extraordinary, it really is, we have suffered the same, which is of course as you say, why we came together, and stay together, knowing we are connecting on these same levels and being able to help each other. My relationship with her is certainly not what I thought a loving relationship would or should be, and as you said, really it is a relationship of pain, one in which we can both bring our pain out to each other, helping each other to grow in truth. So it’s definitely not a ‘normal’ relationship by any means, but then who says we’re meant to have so-called normal relationships anyway. All of that was part of the Romeo and Juliet fantasy living happily ever after that I grew up on, nothing of which came anywhere near reality in my parents lives or in the relationships with women I had before Marion. I think I’ll write more with Mary about what you said and see what she might add. It’s very profound, there’s a lot of truth within it to be seen, and it sure puts a whole new perspective and one I doubt many people would be too keen on embracing on why we are attracted to each other. And to think that I thought I was attracted to that girl because she was pretty!
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Post by wesley on Dec 29, 2014 19:28:45 GMT 10
Yes I ask the Mother both of the questions and I will give what I received. It's 4:20 am my time so when I'm ready to write later today I will be happy if you James and Samantha can add too what you both can feel about it.
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Post by James on Dec 31, 2014 20:45:44 GMT 10
“what is this life all about and what is really going to happen”
“I always wonder how the Father and Mother let this be our first steps taking on this earth.”
Mother and Father, Wesley has asked me to discuss these things with you, as they are pertinent to us all.
Certainly James.
Thank you Mother; So what is life all about for us, and what is really going to happen?
It’s about bringing the personality of your soul into Creation through your experiences of life. And whilst you are doing so, growing in the truth that results from personality interaction, all so We can get to know you, as you can get to know Us; as you also get to know yourself, and each other.
All right, so why that?
Because you are Our child, and that’s how We are. We are all souls, and it’s what souls are, all having unique personalities to express in life. There isn’t anything more than that. Of course you can speculate on what is soul and why does soul exist and how does soul come into being, but just as there are no answers that come to you for those questions, so it’s the same for Us. On Our personality level we don’t yet know the answers to such things, which is why We have created life in space as you know it - so we can all find out. On the deepest soul level the truth and answers await us, although also on this level of soul-reality your Father and I do know such answers, but We want you to find out such things for yourself, just as on other levels We too are finding out. And we need each other to do so. We can’t find out just by Ourselves, we need you to help Us see the truth as it comes through interactions; so without them, We’d not know. The Father and I interacting together only with Ourselves is not enough for Us to reveal the whole truth of Our Soul, so we need help from you; just as you need help from Us to reveal your whole soul.
So Mother, what is really going to happen?
That you will live James - are living, as you have been seeing for yourself. And so it will continue. As to what the future may bring, We’re not going to tell you, it’s what you will have to live to find out. We’re not going to say anything that will distract you from staying true to your feelings as you do your healing.
And so why did you let us take these first steps, being conceived into such wrongness?
Father: For you to fully understand love James. Love is more that what you know and relate to, particularly as you’re currently experiencing what no true love feels like. There is just as much to be understood and so experienced in no-love, or anti-love, as there is true love. And it all needs to be experienced for us all to understand all that we are. And the further Creation expands the more opportunities there will be for us all to experience no-love, so future worlds will be as your world is. And certain souls will experience it all first hand; so you are here now on this evil world doing just that. And as to why you - humanity, specifically, the answer is: because We want you to. And why do We want you to: because We’ve created you to help us all understand more about it on a first hand personal basis. Being God on the existential soul levels of reality We know all, but that’s not the same as knowing the truth of it on an experiential personality level. So when it’s said God knows ALL, it’s true, We do, just as We know nothing, just as you know nothing at your moment of conception. We are with you in it all, just as you are with Us in it all. So we’re all getting to know about what is love and what is not love, what is truth and what is untruth, and what each feels like to live. And in time, when you interact with other spirits and angelic personalities being able to compare differences between you, you will see why ‘We chose’, or rather, why We created, your soul specifically to begin life under these unloving conditions. But to fully understand that will take a long time, for you will need the fullness of time and all experience offered by it to begin to comprehend such things - We can’t tell you it all at once. There is too much to tell.
So as there’s nothing we can do about it anyway, we just keep going.
Mother: Yes James, LIVE. And although understandably it’s very difficult to live untruly and in a world where you are destroying yourselves, still that is your current life focus, that is what is best for your souls growth, that is what We want for you, and that is Our love for you.
So You are lovingly putting us in evil, making us be evil, making us suffer because of it, and then making us heal ourselves of it.
Yes, how can it be any other way?
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Post by wesley on Jan 1, 2015 7:05:54 GMT 10
"As you also get to know yourself ". This is the whole CRUX of what I received from my writing with our Mother. In speaking with the Mother it was obvious that she wanted me to first and foremost wanted me to do my healing. As I asked about all the things surrounding us and the world. And she would tell me first you must know yourself first. And for me it is the greatest answer and loving words for me to slow my mind down from the flood gates of this world. And see you receive those words I feel I'm coming closer to the Mother little by little. Which it takes me more towards the Truth of a child of the Mother and Father.
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Post by James on Jan 2, 2015 22:19:52 GMT 10
How do you talk with the Mother Wes, in your mind or do you write with Her? And how is it, I mean, easy, difficult - can you have conversations with Her?
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Post by wesley on Jan 3, 2015 17:04:34 GMT 10
I have a notebook where I write a lot of my feelings down. Listening to Samantha inspired me to try this way also. Next I'm going to try using my computer. I leave my mind to my spirit friend as I can talk to her anywhere. Writing to the Mother seems easy. It's more of a simple flow of energy and I get surprised at what is coming through. I don't know what I'm writing until I write it. I get so surprised at what is being written that I think I stop after a small portion of maybe more to be given. And the Mother speaks close to my soul conditions meaning enough that I can understand. Which is basically getting me confident to try more writing. I'm not used to writing which isn't a strong point for me. About having conversations I would say yes. It's surprising because I don't have anything that is written prepared by my thoughts. It seems be written with out my mind being involved. But yet there is still the possibility I might be using my mind. Still it's so surprising and feels strong that the Mother is communicating to me. My healing takes the front stage with her I can definitely feel it. And it seems trying writing puts me in a place of more control to use my soul. And I am moving closer to understanding my soul and what it is. And through my feelings almost seeing my feelings being what the soul is. Being so glad that I'm in touch with my feelings.
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Post by James on Jan 4, 2015 20:39:55 GMT 10
"I get so surprised at what is being written that I think I stop after a small portion of maybe more to be given."
I find that so much light and other information comes to me from the Mother and Father that often my mind can't assimilate it quickly enough, so now I look more to the feelings it makes me feel rather than just the information. They could say a few words to me and I'm done, I can't go on speaking with Them, as if it's too much light overwhelming me.
Do you speak with the Father as well Wes? And do you find a difference with Them - assuming you do speak to Him?
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Post by wesley on Jan 5, 2015 16:07:57 GMT 10
The Father was prayer only so far. As I was going through Divine Love I actually thought that prayer is the only way. Starting my healing expand my outlook. So I'm going to write soon to the Father. As far as the Mother I truly wanted to get in touch with her. I felt very deluded by just focusing on the Father only. So in every aspect I'm trying to get in touch with her. So for now I'm trying know and talk to the Mother.
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Post by James on Jan 5, 2015 20:55:43 GMT 10
Wes, Mary asked me to ask you if you fear the Father? Fear talking to Him.
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