Can you help me understand about How Twins incarnate please, my friend has just lost her twin brother and she feels like half of her has died. I feel this is an area that I don't understand with reference to how the soul splits, well, all of it really. I think you know what I am asking and on a soul mate level to. Thanks James. I am taking my time with replying to the incredible message from Verna and yourself, truly incredible for me to experience the feelings I received whilst reading it. Thank you both so much.
Hi Sam, I’m going to ask Mary if she would answer your questions.
Yes James, I’d be pleased to - anytime as we’ve told you.
Thank you Mary, I still don’t want to intrude on you or take up your time.
Not at all James, you’re not doing anything like that, you never will, so you just ask us what you want at any time.
All right, I will.
However should you feel bad in any way, you know what to do with those feelings.
Concerning the incarnation of twins, this happens just as any soul incarnates, only with two souls incarnating their personalities into the same womb at the same time. And it’s not to be confused with twin-souls, which really are soul-mates, as in two people, two distinct personalities being incarnated by the one soul. Really there is no such thing as ‘twin souls’, there are only separate souls with each soul containing ‘two halves’.
Twins or more souls incarnating one of their personalities into the same womb at the same time (and soulmates don’t ever incarnate together as twins - in the same womb at the same time, as there would not be enough unique experience for them to have that is required to make the soulmate union what it is) share a very close psychic bond or connection, such as your friend Samantha feeling the deep loss - the severing of this connection. The bond can be manifest in all sorts of ways, but sharing in the womb experience, being so close together can create a very deep connection right from the start, and so in the core of one. It also can be that no real connection is felt, the two people seeming to even have come from a different womb they being so different to each other and feeling no connection, but the connection will still be there, just not what is important as part of those peoples growth.
And the psychic level, can you please explain more about that Mary?
It’s the interconnectedness between feelings/emotions and the mind, it’s what makes you feel linked, united in any way, why you feel drawn or attracted to some people and not others, because you are relating to each other on unseen levels that are connecting you so as to bring about the required experiences. All you attribute to ‘being psychic’ such as intuitively knowing things, seeing into the future and so on are all also parts of this level, but these are more specific personality attributes that are more developed for certain people, just as all personality attributes are. However really it’s all the unseen connection between you all, and what you make with nature and us spirits, that is what I generally refer to as the psychic level.
Mary, Samantha asks how does the soul split?
The soul as you understand it James is created by the Mother and Father in soul-time, meaning, it has always been created just as its always being created, it all being existential rather than experiential which has a defined beginning and end, so a relative time. In soul-time there is no time so we simply say the soul, Their Soul and our souls have always existed, it makes things easier that way. So when it’s time for incarnation, the soul incarnates one half of itself if you like into Creation at one time and in one womb, the other half at another time and into another womb. And on a soul level, there being no time as we relate to it, so it’s all happening simultaneously, the soul always incarnating or expressing its personalities at all times in Creation. And we in our limited personality focus, perceive our lives as one experience after another, when on the soul level they are all happening always simultaneously.
So we can effectively tune into any moment of our existence because they are all happening at the same time on the soul level.
Yes, and at times people are given such experiences. And it’s why you are the sum of all your experiences all the time, they are if you like, always all happening, only as you can’t entertain that notion with your mind it being too much, so you only deal with and live what is happening now in your feeling-moment. But the closer you become to being your whole soul expressing itself in creation, the more you become as it is, so in time conceivably becoming more in touch with all your experiences no matter when you experienced them in your time/space existence.
So experiences I had the womb, when say in a million years time when I’m that much more soul-aware, or more attuned to my soul, I will be able to go back as it were and experience my very first experiences of being in the womb, because on the soul level of reality they are still happening.
Yes, so nothing is lost, it’s all always there.
And so presumably is my future already all there.
Yes, only you’re not there yet in the personality experiential sense of living in Creation, so that’s your future.
So God is already all God, already all expressed as Soul, and Creation is about slowly bringing that Soul into Creation so as to allow God to experience what it’s like coming into being, all that is already existing, on a moment by moment basis, so not knowing what’s coming.
Yes, and it’s the same for us, it’s our ongoing awakening soul-perceptions that develop to bridge the gap between knowing and not knowing, between the existential and experiential, so we can perceive our souls completeness, as we can live fully expressing ourselves as our souls personality in Creation in each moment not aware of the next moment. And doing so with complete love, trust and faith in ourselves, in our soul, that it’s all already there and we have nothing to worry about, for the soul will always exist for it is already always existing.
Yes I see what you mean, but we can’t just believe that and get on with it as so many of the Easterners try to do, we have to get there through growing in truth, through experiencing and expressing each feeling, leaving our mind out of it.
That’s right, the mind only interfers in the process because you are living untrue to your feelings, self, and soul, putting your mind in charge of your life which is not as it’s meant to be.
So how does the actual split occur at incarnation?
Actually there is no actual split to occur James, the soul just is as it is, that being with two personality aspects to incarnate into Creation. So no split or even separation occurs, so there is no separation trauma for you to experience before or just as you incarnate. Any trauma experienced happens from conception onwards and is to do with the relationship between you are your parents - because they not fully loving and accepting you.
And so what about two soulmate personalities coming back together?
That union occurs when the time is right, when it’s required by your soul to begin experiencing more experience with the main focus being between the two of you. Less and less do you need to separate and be with other people or spirits who are not your soulmate, this being something that will naturally happen as you heal yourselves. However as you’ve read in the Padgett Messages and been told yourself James by spirits, all sorts of variations can occur with some soulmates not coming back together fully until they are both healed, others during their healing so they can help each other with their healing, and others even right at the beginning of their healing such as it was with you and Marion as it was necessary for you to be more with each other so as to concentrate on your healing together and all you’ve needed to do within it. Which is why your’s and Marion’s ability for making money and having an established career or work has been severely curtailed because it’s been vital that you’ve stayed at home together doing the necessary healing and truth revealing that you have done. All of which wouldn’t have been able to happen had you been spending most of your day away from each other and with other people.
Would you please tell the government that Mary?
Sorry James, however nothing is going to happen from that area in your life to stop you and Marion doing what you are to do, and all they will do will only help you with your healing. And this will be the same for all people doing their healing, the priority will be to make them feel bad, but only in such ways and enough for them to express those repressed feelings they need to express so as to uncover the truth of themselves they need to see, understand and live. It’s a whole different way life is lived when you cross the line and begin your healing in earnest. This being what you are all currently understanding. I’m going to end now James. Samantha, if you have other questions please do not hesitate to ask them. Speak to you soon James. Bye now.
Thank you Mary.
Later in the day having re-read what I wrote. Mary you told me some time ago, which now I can’t remember exactly what you said, something about the only people who will be with their soulmates are people striving to do their healing and those who’ve healed it.
Yes James, unless you embrace your healing as Jesus and I have told you, you will not be with your soulmate. Those people and spirits who believe they are but are not using their feelings to seek the truth of themselves are deluding themselves about their soulmate union, it all being part of their negative and anti true love experience. To pretend you are with your soulmate when in truth you are not, will only serve to take you further into your self-denial and evilness. One would be better to not worry or speculate about ones soulmate and get on with ones healing, no matter who your partner might be. If one is to know about who ones soulmate is, it will come up as part of the truth one reveals to oneself. But of course, you should still speculate if you feel the need to, always looking to express all you feel and seek the truth of those feelings. And it also follows that just because you are doing your healing with a partner doesn’t necessarily mean that partner is your soulmate.
And Mary, concerning Sam’s friend feeling like half of her has died having lost her twin brother...
All such pain being there to help her do her healing should she want to uncover the truth of such pain. All of which would lead her into the truth of her relationship with her parents, and also the truth of her relationship with her brother. Their relationship is simply just another variation of life in the negative, such as you are all living, and so can be healed as one seeks to heal ones evilness, if that is what one feels to do.
Thank you Mary.
Uncover the truth through your feelings, and you're FREE!
I understand about Twins and their incarnation and soon after I wrote my question, I asked Mother and Father and received the answer and it all seemed so obvious that two souls incarnate into the one womb, so what you wrote confirms it all brilliantly for me, thank You Mary. Thank you James.
My friends Twin brothers death has brought up so many questions within my self and this morning I woke with the question, what is it that determines the early death with some and not with others. It brought up within me the early death of my husband and was it predetermined, how does it all work. Did I meet him to experience this and then bring up within me an accumulation of all of my abandonment and pain? Not saying that he died so that I could experience all of my pain but his journey and pain that would have gone severely denied coming to a point in him too, but resulting in his death and his healing journey continuing in spirit if he wants to, he never fully accepted my healing and didn't truly believe a lot of what I was doing. Was it his feeling denial that brought him and others that die early to the point of their deaths at early ages. I have thought about it all and do not blame myself for his death but I do feel that we attract these experiences depending on our soul condition, the same as anything we experience, even mass atrocities attracted by the masses no matter how uninvolved we believe we are, it is all our un-lovingness and evilness that we deny our part in the bad things that happen. I think I may be answering my own question because it makes sense that even death would be a condition of our soul and determined by that as everything is. I have since found out that my friends father died at exactly the same age as her brother, 47, and I can now see that her twins death is now bringing up the unhealed abandonment and pain of loosing her father at the same age, she now has another layer to add to the pain that will go unhealed so could her unhealed pain of both of them loosing their father have lead to the death of her brother at the very same age? To me it appears to be a very clear message to her, both dying of the same heart attack at the same age. I am just trying to understand what determines our time of death as some people go their whole lives full of awful pain but living until they are old, is it predetermined or is it all to do with our soul condition?
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is it predetermined or is it all to do with our soul condition?
When you find out, please let me know .
How I see it is that everything is predetermined, that being on a soul level. Yet everything is not predetermined, that being on the personality level. And as we are focused on the personality level...
And the two levels exist and are equally as real and both interconnected. So it's a feeling thing and not a mind thing to grasp. By living in the moment with our feelings and mind it seems like we have complete freedom of choice, yet the fact that we can't control or determine our true feelings shows us that we have no freedom of choice, it all being governed and controlled by the soul. (Yet whilst we're of an untrue mind, so it can control our feelings so some degree, but they are not our true feelings, those being what we're doing our healing for, to bring them up and live true to them.) So I put free will down to the fact that we have the freedom to believe with our minds what we like, and that's about it. And what we believe and what happens in reality are two very different things, even if sometimes they seem similar or the same.
Were I to ask Mary about it, she'd saying something like: It's all what the Mother and Father want you to experience James, it's all only to help you grow in the truth of yourself through your feelings.
Uncover the truth through your feelings, and you're FREE!